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Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed
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PopcornMegaphone
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I doubt it. they'll focus on features, games and entertainment.
I'm not a huge fan of the faceplates.
WP and Lumia are a match made in heaven, design-wise. I retired my 920 with a heavy heart in favour of an iPhone 5 because of repeated hardware issues but goddamn was it beautiful.
I highly doubt it. Unless there was a big spec bump from the rumors I expect them to just say custom APU, 8 core CPU, 8GB of RAM, and a custom GPU several times more powerful than the 360's. That's all they really need to say.
The last year it's been 33% or 50%, depending on what you base your 100% on.
I don't remember the 20% point ever being true. Maybe a miscalculation?
I doubt it. They'll just dump that online somewhere for the people who care.
It's always been 50%. 1.5 x 1.23TFLOPS = 1.84FLOPSWait the PS4 GPU was first 20% more powerful, then 33% and now 50%... these rumors are as fucked up as this:
Durango's GPU is 33% weaker.
No, because it's half as long and Microsoft is better at presentations for general consumers. It's going to be jam-packed and jelly tight with stuff, so I'm guessing we only see a very brief glimpse of the more technical stuff. I'm guessing we see Mattrick, Ballmer, and maybe even Gates again.
The Xbox may not be Windows, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a HUGE thing for Microsoft. They're trying to hook people into their ecosystem just as much as Apple and Google, and the Xbox is a great tip of the spear for them with a lot of people, and it's an avenue that Google and Apple can't really enter. (Yes, Apple/Google have games on their platforms, but this is a dedicated gaming box with a heavy media focus as well. The Apple TV/Nexus Q is only half of that.)
djblackice
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Between the blatant trolling from those who seemingly have no interest in the console, overly aggressive dudebros with a serious case of persecution complex, and the rampant frothing for snippets of legitimate information, this thread has it all.
Everyone needs an outlet to vent so hopefully another scapegoat can appear like Adam Orth from before, haha.
Gemüsepizza
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Yeah, Microsoft is aware of the audience they are broadcasting to -especially at that time- and will focus on stuff that resonates with them with a pinch of big numbers that let people know what they're buying isn't like what they own now.
Well I am not 100% confident in any of this till the shit's been announced and we know for sure. The fact all of you are taking these rumors as fact almost just amazes me.
James Sawyer Ford
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The big surprise / unknown is backwards compatibility, IMHO.
Microsoft were hiring a lot of ex-IBM guys, so it wouldn't surprise me to see BC back in there as standard, this would also explain their heating/yield issues.
But then again, we have had statements from Paul & EA saying they don't expect BC to be standard, so who knows...there's a lot of conflicting info out there.
dragonelite
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Wait the PS4 GPU was first 20% more powerful, then 33% and now 50%... these rumors are as fucked up as this:
People suck at percentages.
With a 1.23TFLOPS GPU and DDR3 memory, they'd be best not to go into too much detail. They'll probably mention that they're using 8GB of RAM and a "fast GPU".
I don't believe they will say much come 21st, but I expect proper "leakages" to the proper places very soon after.
if it was as important to them as it is to you, I bet you they would change it
its not like they don't have the monies. or the hunger to be no.1
let me remind you that last time it was also like this, but worse, with the cell supercomputer to end all supercomputers,
but I really liked how bill gates went on the subject and said, well, we have a Ferrari, sony has a Ferrari too, ours is hitting the road now.
then the microsoft ferrari -for my tastes- beat the shit out of the sony ferrari for at least 2-3 years.
so... what I want to say is basically that with tflops as your card in hand, your mileage may vary
and of course, personally I am more interested to see what bundle of fantastic exclusive games will this machine offer to me immediately, (and IF it does)
than try to figure out exactly for how many years it can keep competent with high technology to keep me happy.
because if you think that ps4's 1.8tflops will have you smiling for 6-7 years, then definitely you are not as power-hungry as your writing style suggests in this thread.
I'm getting a 920 on Monday.
Yeah, this will be their big hardware announcement if it happens and would explain the cost of the console that Thurott outlined.
Baconsammy
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Didn't notice. Was hoping it would be an extra 't' after the 'i'.
PopcornMegaphone
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Even if they do have a huge spec bump (which I doubt) I don't think they'll spend much time on specs. MS will show, not explain. For most people spec overviews are like watching paint dry.
Rad! Tell me how you like it when you do.
Did you see the 928? I was thinking of either going with that or the 920 depending on what carrier I go with.
Wait until the Nokia event next week. They might be announcing a new flagship.
It would just be a silly rumour if it was the PS4 that was 50% slower knowing this place.
I don't know how much it has changes in the recent years with Samsung and Apple but talking about specifications on TV is not what I would expect.
Yes everyone is against you. You are being hunted. It's all real.
Trust me, if MS were using some ultra beast GPU they'd definitely highlight that fact.
I still have the win 7 Lumia 900 and will be upgrading to the newer Windows 8 phone in November, can't wait.
The new Win 7.8 update for this Lumia is nice though.
R3TRODYCE
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Good choice! Had mine for 3 months and I love it.
I don't think they'll spend long on it either if that happens, I'm just saying that they'll likely give specifics if that happens as opposed to making it sound pretty much the same as the PS4.
Dat persecution complex.
The rumors about the PS4 specs were saying that it was the weaker for a long time, until 2013 when they updated their dev kits and filled in more devs in detail. GAF is not a Sony focused forum, fact many posters are very critical of Sony from a business standpoint, Sony has just spoken on a lot of philosophies and directions for the PS4 that appeal to many people on GAF. See the difference? GAF is a forum of hobbyists and enthusiasts whose opinions shift based on where the content they want is. All of the big 3 have been under fire and lauded whenever depending on how much they appealed to the enthusiast audience.
I just love the design of it. It reminds me a lot of the older ipod-Nano Apple used to make. I really love that colorful, sharp and clean design. I like stuff that stands out.
I'm getting one for free.
Baconsammy
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This. Don't buy a phone until after this announcement.
And I retract my most recent comment. Free is good.
Good shit.
Phire Phox
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Highly doubt they'll talk about specs in this reveal. It'll be on Spike and the mainstream audience doesn't really care about all that technological babble. They want to see games.
Baconsammy
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They want to see games. They want to see a controller. And based on the reaction to the PS4 reveal, they also want to see the console.
Syphon Filter
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I am sure they will, who cares what they think.
Wait the PS4 GPU was first 20% more powerful, then 33% and now 50%... these rumors are as fucked up as this:
it has always been 50% more powerful people just used that 30% number that was thrown around to say that it wouldn't be much of a difference.
That's awesome!
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. Keep it simple enough for the average consumer to get excited, and share the details for people like us to mull over later.
Tell us more then, you obviously know what you're talking about.
Based off tweets we will see all 3 of those plus entertainment stuff.
The 33% number comes from when you calculate percentages starting from PS4 and go down to the rumored Durango specs and the 50% comes when you start from Durango and go to PS4. Rumored specs are that Durango is 33% less powerful than PS4 and PS4 is 50% more powerful. Both are correct as long as you phrase it properly.
Alx
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It's based on the rumors, but also basic math(s) : if B is 50% more of A, A is 33% less than B. Not rocket science.
*edit : what RoboPlato said...
what are you talking about?
1. The leaks are unconfirmed. Until Microsoft announces something, they're bullshit. End of. You can have as many sources as you like, but it doesn't mean anything until something is announced. At all.
2. Unless you're the lead system architect at Microsoft, you don't know what you're talking about. If Microsoft wants to change something, they're able to do it. Microsoft are worth approximately 15x as much as Sony. If they can change, you can bet Microsoft can too. Nothing's locked in. Why? See point 1.
3. Don't forget, both of these consoles likely aren't shipping until Q4 at the earliest. They probably won't even start manufacturing until Q3. This is a far cry from 'overnight', as you say.
4. PlayStation 4's development has been leaking all over the place*. Durango's hasn't to the same extent. They've done a good job at keeping everything under wraps. They won't even admit the damn thing exists.
Microsoft said:
5. The only leak you've seen that's even close to being verifiable is that of an early dev kit. The alleged specifications you've seen have largely stemmed from that and are, at this point, incredibly outdated. Go and compare Sony's alpha kit with their final shipping hardware. They are not the same.
What do you think's more likely?
a) the specifications haven't changed since the early dev kit leak.
b) Microsoft is firmly executing its NDA on people, drying up sources' information sources.
6. We've had this before. It's not advisable to be cocky at the start of a new console generation, let alone before it even begins, because far down the line, when the platform matures, the boundaries begin to blur and the arguments begin to fade. It's not just about the specifications. Look at this generation. Look at any generation.
7. Just wait and see. You might be surprised. You might not. Sometimes things change. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes sources are right. Sometimes sources are wrong. Just reserve judgment and see for yourself when the time comes.
*Don't forget, it's likely that Microsoft has their own trusted sources too, verifying information throughout Orbis' development. And probably vice-versa too.
Skiptastic
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Exactly. The general public doesn't really know, understand, or care about those things. They just want to see what it can do.
The one thing that matters is what James Ford was saying: backwards compatability. And I think if they talk about that, it will show up early in the presentation. Talk about all the great games that people own for their 360 and how they will be able to play them on the new hardware. Then you don't look back and just talk about all the cool new things the system can do and the great looking new games that will make you want to ditch those old games.
I don't need to take time off, the scheduling works out wonderful for me.
Streaming it while on IRC, as with all the events.
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