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Fire Emblem Awakening |OT2| PAL reinforcements
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CornBurrito
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I tried the bunker down strategy and always lost with that as my units were too weak late game except for ~5 of them.
Also Rescue is really good. Too bad all my best characters couldnt use staves!
Also do most people use the Dancer?
Aveyn Knight
Member
I use Olivia as a pair up partner for whoever's her husband; I haven't had her dance for ages.
Ahh i totally forgot that. Going to try that tonight thanks.
BetterWorldz
Member
So at what time does the new DLC come out in Europe usually? Waiting for Summer Scramble 
My Olivia went from kind of dull to a dervish of destruction, and I'm not quite sure when that happened. Well, actually, I think it was the grind for Galeforce that got her some stats, but her time as Dark Flier was disappointing at best... Then she became a Swordmaster. "I learned some new steps!" *Olivia has learned Astra* Going to go for Swordfaire, too, and then, well... I could either keep her a Swordmaster or go back to Dancer. There has to be some use for a Dancer with Galeforce and Astra.
And I have a Severa with Astra and Galeforce now. I think her path ahead is fairly obvious. Hero for sol, Swordmaster for Swordfaire, Assassin for stat caps. Some of the children are easier to figure out than others. I think I'll recruit Gerome next. Frederick/Cherche. Nothing really major to pass on there. I'll let him have a free Luna, though from Frederick. Because Luna isn't bad.
And I have a Severa with Astra and Galeforce now. I think her path ahead is fairly obvious. Hero for sol, Swordmaster for Swordfaire, Assassin for stat caps. Some of the children are easier to figure out than others. I think I'll recruit Gerome next. Frederick/Cherche. Nothing really major to pass on there. I'll let him have a free Luna, though from Frederick. Because Luna isn't bad.
Aveyn Knight
Member
So at what time does the new DLC come out in Europe usually? Waiting for Summer Scramble
I haven't checked any earlier, but I think it's around 11AM GMT.
toastyToast
Member
So many enemies in chapter 11 with those constant reinforcements
I've only got 3 units who can reliably kill shit in one turn so I struggled to make any progress because I keep having to turn back. Finally reach the end and boss instigates an attack on Fred then two mages beam down and hit him back to back. There were so many enemies around, dude was fucked.
What a shit map.
I've only got 3 units who can reliably kill shit in one turn so I struggled to make any progress because I keep having to turn back. Finally reach the end and boss instigates an attack on Fred then two mages beam down and hit him back to back. There were so many enemies around, dude was fucked.
What a shit map.
The Awesomest
Member
Fog of War's not as bad in FE, and is nonexistent in Awakening.
There are no individual mission ranks in FE, though some games have an overall ranking at the end. Awakening doesn't.
FE doesn't usually have endless reinforcements, and even if they did, you'd still probably be able to slowly advance through a map instead of being locked in a stalemate for days and days.
I also started on Advance Wars before trying out Fire Emblem on GBA. I greatly prefer FE's system to Advance Wars.
BetterWorldz
Member
Hero's better than Assassin's just because Axes ---> Swords ---> Bows.
For Cherche, you will want to pass of Dual support + and have Gerome be a support monster. Also want to pass off Dual Guard + from Fred.
Ayup, that guide I posted for your playthrough earlier gave galeforce to every kid that could possibly receive it. It's the second best skill in the game (limitbreaker's better but it's dlc only).
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Only the final chapter has infinite reinforcements though, I believe. The rest should either show up on specific turns.
Hmm, I could see that working, but can't Gerome get Dual Guard+ on his own, too? 15 levels of Valkyrie for Cherche seems a little... odd. She's not much of a magic character. But since she doesn't get Pegasi (Minerva would be jealous), I guess it's the way to go. EXPonential growth, here I come!
What would a Ricken/Miriel Laurent want, anyway? Now that is going to one heck of a mage, but does Miriel have anything he wants to inherit? Dual Support+ again?
Well, gotta get Miriel back up to level 10, then, she's doing the Dark Mage thing now. Then reclass to Trobadour and use Rescue staffs to get to Valkyrie 15 quickly, I guess.
dakkumauji
Member
Valkyrie is a female only class like Pegasus Knights. Can't have our men be on horses, wield magic and wear a cute little hat!
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
You can rescue grind to get through Valkyrie quickly, especially if you have paragon.
And Great Knight isn't very good aside from the skills it offers so passing off Dual Guard+ if the unit doesn't have much else to offer isn't a bad idea.
Edit: And yeah, Dual Support+, always best to go with a decent exclusive skill and she doesn't have any better ones.
Aveyn Knight
Member
Oh. Well I guess it's been delayed today, then.
DLC typically updates on Thursdays; it only updates on Wednesdays if there's a public holiday on a Thursday (which happened last week and will happen again the week after this).
Summer Scramble is definitely out tomorrow.
Oh really? Better start grinding some more.
Should really start getting some children going, even Cynthia is getting op and I want more of that power.
I don't think so. Sully is one of the best units in the game, and having her as a pair up partner for Chrom is really good (they're a formidable force that can be gotten built from as early as chapter 3). Lucina & Kjelle both end up having a comparatively higher base stat pool if Sully is her mother as well(Sully for Lucina, Chrom for Kjelle), and Lucina gets access to Discipline, which actually makes her a viable Lance user in the midgame
TL;DR: In a non grind playthrough Chrom X Sully is a perfectly acceptable pair.
Lucina will always have access to discipline as Chrom has the cav tree. Will have access to Lancefaire if Maribelle (i wouldn't do it) or Sumia is her mother. This is pretty much having Gregor marrying Olivia. Gregor is a great dad, Inigo is the most impossible char in the game to fuck up. Gregor adds nothing to Inigo, because everything is redundant.
Yeah dual support + for Laurent, he's the magical support compared to physical one that Gerome is.
While that may be true, Lucina shouldn't never her time training as calv. Sully can directly pass down discipline while Lucina trains as a Paladin OR Great Knight and builds her lance rank several times faster than Chrom.
As i've mentioned in my post, I don't grind for skills because it ends up trivializing the game. I'm not sure how you guys can justify passing down Dual Support+. You realize that's a Valkyrie skill right?(10lvls as a Cleric and 15 levels as a Valkyrie... that's 25 gained levels)
CornBurrito
Member
Oh crap, I dropped Sully ASAP since I had too many horse units. :/
dakkumauji
Member
Eh, she's not that gamebreaking.
Pairing pretty much anyone with Chrom especially his wife will let him easily smash through stuff due to all those support bonuses.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I'd never bother passing down a level 1 base class skill because you can get 10 levels in a base class in minutes with Exponential Growth.
And if you're not concerned about grinding skill related stuff barely matters anyway because even on hard mode you don't need to optimize at all to beat the game, even without ever getting the kids.
And if you're not concerned about grinding skill related stuff barely matters anyway because even on hard mode you don't need to optimize at all to beat the game, even without ever getting the kids.
FE13 is a really easy game on pretty much any difficulty, so you should be fine.
It's very much a game designed around making "any" character work. Sully is one of those units that can work without grinding.
It really depends on how far Sully's advanced, but I generally have her pass down Discipline since a Lucina with a high lance rank is godsend.
I wouldn't say it barely matters, since it's harder to blitz through the later stages at lower levels, even on hard, and i'm not really interested in breaking the game in half with EXP DLC.
BuckRobotron
Member
Been enjoying this over the past few days, playing it and focusing on characters on whim. Quite familiar with FE, though now that I'm getting further in I have looked up details on the Awakening-specific systems regarding skills, marriage, etc. I'm on Normal/Classic for this first run and at the halfway mark.
Regarding Sully she has been quite a reliable powerhouse. Was even the first Marriage social link I tried out for my MU but reloaded and left it at A after that. I ended up hooking her up with Vaike, seemed more appropriate. Whether or not that is best for the next generation...again, I'm indulging a lot of whim and want to be surprised as to what and who results from the marriages. And it is fun watching closely allied/coupled units work together and wreck shop (my MU is a newly minted Hero with wife Maribelle as Mage for now). Other things on whim that seem to be working out are the fun of watching War Cleric Lissa swinging an axe. I needed another axe user anyway.
Was also checking out the bonus teams, some fave characters to recruit. No Karla/Bartre is disappointing. I always enjoyed that odd couple and especially using Karla as a favored swordmaster back when.
Anyway, on next playthrough/harder difficulty I'll work the stats.
Regarding Sully she has been quite a reliable powerhouse. Was even the first Marriage social link I tried out for my MU but reloaded and left it at A after that. I ended up hooking her up with Vaike, seemed more appropriate. Whether or not that is best for the next generation...again, I'm indulging a lot of whim and want to be surprised as to what and who results from the marriages. And it is fun watching closely allied/coupled units work together and wreck shop (my MU is a newly minted Hero with wife Maribelle as Mage for now). Other things on whim that seem to be working out are the fun of watching War Cleric Lissa swinging an axe. I needed another axe user anyway.
Was also checking out the bonus teams, some fave characters to recruit. No Karla/Bartre is disappointing. I always enjoyed that odd couple and especially using Karla as a favored swordmaster back when.
Anyway, on next playthrough/harder difficulty I'll work the stats.
There's two games, the main game and the post game with the dlc. You don't need the kids at all for the main game. Let's be real here, there's no reason she should be training up lances at all unless it's for postgame (to break up the weapon triangle), she only needs the falchion for the main game.
Thanks, much more clear now.
Yeah I agree with the first half of your post.
As for the secondhalf, Lances are good on Lucina because it gives her 1-2 range, and she incurs less damage from Lance users, if they're bunched up together.
CornBurrito
Member
Someone recommended I pair Chrom with Olivia to pass on galeforce to the resulting child. Anyone know why I couldn't/shouldn't do this but with Sumia? Apparently Olivia and Chrome are hard to pair up.
Sumia gives poor strength growth to the children but If you aren't into optimizing units I say go for it anyway. I married Chrom to Sumia as well and their children are between my best units.
dakkumauji
Member
Olivia gives better max stat modifiers to Chrom's kid than Sumia.
But if you just want Galeforce, Sumia is a good choice along with Maribelle as well.
CornBurrito
Member
Hmm well I'm not planning on buying any of the DLC, so I probably do not need to optimize. Though it would be fun to have some insanely broken characters if I do end up buying the DLC.
And in my normal play-through I married Chrom and Sumia and their children suckeeeeed
Actually all the children I got sucked as they were seriously underleveled and I couldn't be assed to grind. Though I may need to do that on hard mode. Of course reeking boxes are like... 10x more expensive.
Sp should I continue ripping my hair out with maxing Frederick's Resistance as a Paladin, or just stick him with Great Knight.
Although I don't use magic for a lot of characters, it's still lame that it didn't max like the other stats.
So far, out of the 7 I'm fine with thus far, only Libra and Olivia are completely maxed.
Although I don't use magic for a lot of characters, it's still lame that it didn't max like the other stats.
So far, out of the 7 I'm fine with thus far, only Libra and Olivia are completely maxed.
You can pair up Olivia by making Chrom and her standby at a corner and have her dance for him for a couple of turns. They'll automatically marry at the end of the chapter.
It's worth it.
Frederick isn't that good of a unit.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
He has decent modifiers for a physical tanky unit, and that also fits his class options well. +2 str, skl, def, -2 mag, spd.
Obviously the -2 spd hurts, but the magic doesn't really mean anything. He's certainly better than Donnel in that regard when you're talking about post-game, though Donnel has Merc/Hero which is a pretty big advantage too.
Not creepy. HOT!
Just finished my first normal playthrough on my first Fire Emblem game, super impressed! Very glad I bought a 3DS for this, looking forward to playing again on hard and dipping into the mechanics some more and making sure I get all the characters I can.
When recruiting children, should I get them after I have the skills from the parents I want to pass down already learnt or should I get them as soon as possible? Also quite indecisive over who to pair my FeMU with. MaMU and Tharja was OTP status haha.
When recruiting children, should I get them after I have the skills from the parents I want to pass down already learnt or should I get them as soon as possible? Also quite indecisive over who to pair my FeMU with. MaMU and Tharja was OTP status haha.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Wait until you get the skills you want to pass down. Especially gender-exclusive ones since they won't be able to get those otherwise.
Try to get the skills first. Some skills can't be learned by the kids , like Galeforce for a male kid. ALso the starting stats of the kids are based on the stats of the parents, so the better trained the parents are, the stronger the kid will be when you recruit them.
Aveyn Knight
Member
Actually it's not that hard; you just need to follow a few rules.
1. Make sure none of Chrom's other marriage candidates have triggered a C support or higher (if he has, marry them off before Olivia joins).
2. Have Chrom pair with Olivia and defeat at least 3 enemies.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
That blatant yuri really made me wish there was an S conversation between them.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Galeforce + Astra + Lifetaker + Lethality + Swordfaire on Olivia is brutal, particularly considering her crazy evasion and crit rates. I keep her as Assassin class though, dancing really doesn't have much point when you've got a load of units packing Galeforce anyway.
CornBurrito
Member
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That must have taken a lot of grinding.
Anyway who would you guys recommend I pair Donnel with? Sully?
dakkumauji
Member
Nowi or Tharja for galeforce babies.
I sent donnel to sully too. Can't go wrong with Armsthrift/galeforce Manakete or sorcerer kids though.