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Aaron Greenberg on NextBox: E3 is all about the games, "tons of exclusives"
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Well, only one of those are a reason to buy an Xbox 3 over a PS4.
Exclusive DLC is a funny thing, I don't think it makes any difference really, but it secures the public perception that Xbox is where you go for console competitive multiplayer, which alone is almost certainly worth whatever they pay for the CoD exclusivity. But things like the extra missions in Mafia 2 or LA Noire can't do much at all.
nelsonroyale
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Also, while MS is without doubt more finacially solvent, I don't think their future is as rosy as some seem to think. Aside from the Xbox division, their business vision seems so stagnant. Their virtual monopoly in the PC space sustains them obviously, but their software products, especially in the Office line are garbage. Their really needs to be more viable competition to MS in the PC space. Personally, I feel the Xbox has been the only decent product MS has concieved in the last 15 years. Anyway, I am interested to see what they show on Tuesday. They do have more cash reserves, but it will be interesting to see whether they have invested more in games or services.
You say the future of their business isn't bright, yet state that there is no viable competition to them within the PC space Lol.
specialguy
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all of those will likely happen except the bc part. although whether people will acknowledge #4 is debatable (I happen to think MS first party lineup the last 2 years has been fine, whereas it's characterized as nonexistent).
also i always wonder what people mean when they say "forced kinect".
evidently you will have to have kinect plugged in for the new xbox to work imo, but after that i fully plan to mostly ignore it for gaming, just like i own a kinect right now and it stays in the closet. the vast vast vast majority of core games do not use kinect in any fashion and i'm 100% sure that will continue.
Here is a list I made of first party studios that make hardcore games. Didn't include developers that make Kinect, Move, Vita, XBLA and PSN games.
RARE Team 2 - AAA game (I assume another team makes Kinect games)
Microsoft LA - AAA game
343 - Halo 5
Turn 10 - Forza 5
Black Tusk - Futuristic shooter
Lionhead - Fable MMO
Crytek - Ryse (3rd party exclusive)
Remedy - Alan Wake 2 (MS don't own IP, 3rd party exclusive)
Respawn - Titan (MS don't own IP, 3rd party exclusive)
Plus more studios like Twisted Pixel, Big Park and etc that make Kinect or XBLA games
Guerilla Games - Killzone Shadowfall
Sucker Punch - inFamous Second Son
Sony Japan - Knack
Evolution - DriveClub
Quantic Dreams - Cinematic game
Team Ico - The Last Guardian
Santa Monica - New AAA IP
Santa Monica Team 2 - God of War 4
Guerilla Games Team 2 - The Order, Fantasy RPG
Naughty Dog - Uncharted 4
Naughty Dog Team 2 - Last of Us 2 or New IP
Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo 6
Media Molecule - LittleBigUniverse
San Diego - MLB
SOE - Planetside 2 port
Ready at Dawn - AAA action adventure game (3rd party exclusive)
Square Enix - Final Fantasy XV or Versus - (Sony don't own the IP, 3rd party exclusive)
Plus more studios like Bend, Zindagi, London and etc that make Vita, PSN or Move games
RARE Team 2 - AAA game (I assume another team makes Kinect games)
Microsoft LA - AAA game
343 - Halo 5
Turn 10 - Forza 5
Black Tusk - Futuristic shooter
Lionhead - Fable MMO
Crytek - Ryse (3rd party exclusive)
Remedy - Alan Wake 2 (MS don't own IP, 3rd party exclusive)
Respawn - Titan (MS don't own IP, 3rd party exclusive)
Plus more studios like Twisted Pixel, Big Park and etc that make Kinect or XBLA games
Guerilla Games - Killzone Shadowfall
Sucker Punch - inFamous Second Son
Sony Japan - Knack
Evolution - DriveClub
Quantic Dreams - Cinematic game
Team Ico - The Last Guardian
Santa Monica - New AAA IP
Santa Monica Team 2 - God of War 4
Guerilla Games Team 2 - The Order, Fantasy RPG
Naughty Dog - Uncharted 4
Naughty Dog Team 2 - Last of Us 2 or New IP
Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo 6
Media Molecule - LittleBigUniverse
San Diego - MLB
SOE - Planetside 2 port
Ready at Dawn - AAA action adventure game (3rd party exclusive)
Square Enix - Final Fantasy XV or Versus - (Sony don't own the IP, 3rd party exclusive)
Plus more studios like Bend, Zindagi, London and etc that make Vita, PSN or Move games
Miles Quaritch
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Doesn't Lionhead have two teams working? One working on an MMO and the other working on what I assume is a Fable sequel?
When was it confirmed MM were working on LBU? I thought they were working on that create your movies/games 'thing'.
Hyperbole.
Keep expectations in check until E3
I've learned many times. Get too hyped, end up disappointed;pWell, Respawns-Game alone could probably outsell almost all known ps4-exclusives alone.
If not, then epic's game would do the rest of the work.
Gemüsepizza
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Well, Respawns-Game alone could probably outsell almost all known ps4-exclusives alone.
If not, then epic's game would do the rest of the work.
We don't know anything about Respawn's game, so I don't know how you got to this assumption. And we don't know what Epic is doing right now, too. After all they have been bought by this chinese company a while ago, and then there were a couple of departures. And they said they are working on a F2P title. Who knows what will be their next game.
Psycho_Mantis
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Well, Respawns-Game alone could probably outsell almost all known ps4-exclusives alone.
If not, then epic's game would do the rest of the work.
Epics exclusive could be fortnite lol. But seriously we don't know anything about Respawns game or Epics. Heck Respawn making the game exclusive to xbox is just a rumour.
And a fairly unbelievable one I think.
Miles Quaritch
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Miles Quaritch
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Guesses, I put God of War 4, Fable MMO and etc. The while point of that list is to show the developers that are working for MS and Sony
Don't think there's really an "official" rumour going around anywhere, just speculation here on Gaf hinging on the relationship between MS and Epic.
All betrayals are megatons, but not all megatons are betrayals.
Yeah, and I remember reading the Destiny contract. We'll see.
Miles Quaritch
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Ooo, you sonofabitch. I got all excited for nothing.
I hope they go on to make LBU, would have preferred they announced that to the other creator 'thing' they've got going.
Miles Quaritch
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Well, the Destiny contract was years old wasn't it? This would likely be relatively new and up to date information.
Then I don't think Epic will make a exclusive for MS. Perhaps timed exclusive. The only reason 360 got a lot of exclusives was because it was easy to develop for and it came out first and was more of a success than PS3. Later on most of the exclusives became multiplatform as PS3 started gaining ground (Mass Effect, BioShock, Elder Scrolls and etc).
It certainly was. I still don't think it'll be true, but we shall see.
As for MM, that thing we saw was just a tech demo, it wasn't a game, and it seems like 3D sculpting is a natural step towards LBU.
Sorc3r3r
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I trust him but do not trust this kind of Microsoft policy.
Going for 3rd party exclusive to get as many gamers as you can, and then desert them in the last years.
I dont care, will buy cheap later.
From this point of view they have to learn a lot from Sony, take note, and deliver.
Going for 3rd party exclusive to get as many gamers as you can, and then desert them in the last years.
I dont care, will buy cheap later.
From this point of view they have to learn a lot from Sony, take note, and deliver.
Miles Quaritch
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Indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if they lock up Respawn's title. At least the first entry, with any sequels going multiplatform. Would be interesting to see how Activision would respond to such a move.
I hope so, LBU is pretty much what I expected but then they blind-sided me with that tech demo.
Phoenician_Viking
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3 more days.
I don't think they honestly care. They're already getting free money for timed DLC exclusivity and they're confident in Destiny becoming their next big thing.
Phoenician_Viking
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MM said they are working a new IP, not LBP iirc.
ComputerMKII
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I want exclusives to finally die. It makes no sense for me to have to buy two consoles in order to play the same games except for one or two.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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Something is amiss.
By the way, Lionhead also has two teams, you forgot about MS Victoria, and then there's the newly rumored MS Seattle/Redmond. Not to mention that making a distinction between Move/Kinect/XBLA/PSN/Vita studios and those that make traditional control home console retail games (talk about narrowing the scope down) in nonsensical, not only because all games are essentially of equal value before you prioritize them depending on your taste, but also because those roles are not set in stone (for instance, Media Molecule's next game is for Vita, and it's likely that their PS4 game is going to be a Move title).
Silphonica
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I know minimally Microsoft have at least 6 I.Ps that are going to exclusive to MS forever, right off the bat of the new generation.
Miles Quaritch
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Good point, but doesn't the timed DLC contract end this year? I expect they'll reach a new agreement though, but there's always the remote possibility that MS might decide to chase Battlefield timed DLC instead.
Maximilian Kolbe
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I don't think that's likely at all. Just because of the tech demo, doesn't mean the actual game will require the Move, it would mean killing the sales potential.
Miles Quaritch
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TheUnsunghero26
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Yeah, pretty sure that's in the "4 New IPs" thread.
abstract alien
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Exclusives are one of the main components I base system purchases off of. Don't care about a bunch of multiplatform bullshit. At least they got some of it right for me so far. The 21st is so close...
I included Kinect, XBLA and Move developers on the last line, I didn't want to list them separately as I don't think they are as important as a big developer like 343 or Naughty Dog. Also Media Molecule are confirmed to make a traditional game, the move part is for the creation aspect of the game only.
Edit: I have to look into MS Victoria and Seattle, to make sure they are big dev teams and not Kinect, XBLA developers.
Psycho_Mantis
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You know I've just realised that most the third party exclusives are from rumours. What are we going to do when Sony and MS turn up and the most they have is exclusive DLC. We better not take rumours as facts to avoid disappointments.
Isn't MS Victoria Kinect-focused? Their job hirings seem to indicate that.
Lionhead is 2 teams now? That's good to know. Hopefully they start to put out some quality titles now that Molyneux is gone.
Is their an actual source to them being 2 teams or is this is just assumed through job hirings?
As already mentioned MM's next title won't be move-only, hell we don't even know if it's a game yet.
For those people thinking it's LBP/LPU MM have stated countless times that they have moved away from that franchise.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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I think that's extremely likely and that you should watch their part of the conference again. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that suggesting anything else after witnessing their presentation is ludicrous and borders on wishful thinking. In their own words, they spent two years doing research in order to find a solution to their problems before finally "completely falling in love" with the Move.
"Dear Move controller, Im sorry it's taken us so long to realize this, but we're going to marry you with the power of the PS4, we're going to revolutionize [game/content] making - you're great."
Psycho_Mantis
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I think that's extremely likely and that you should watch their part of the conference again. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that suggesting anything else after witnessing their presentation is ludicrous and borders on wishful thinking. In their own words, they spent two years doing research in order to find a solution to their problems before finally "completely falling in love" with the Move.
"Dear Move controller, Im sorry it's taken us so long to realize this, but we're going to marry you with the power of the PS4, we're going to revolutionize [game/content] making - you're great."
I think you need to inform yourself first.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555720
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