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[Deadstar]

The prophecies are true. Heaven help us all.

 

[UncleSporky]

Serious question, not trying to troll...hoping someone can flesh it out a bit more for me:

Why is everyone so angry that you have to connect at least once a day?

I understand the Sim City fiasco, but I would imagine Microsoft won't have this problem? Or maybe they will?

I really don't know. All my current consoles are connected to the internet so I'm not sure what the problem is.

Nobody in the military stationed overseas will own an XBox One, that's for starters.

 

[Doc Holliday]

What is the reason for this? Pirated games weren't that big of a deal on xbox 360 AFAIK.

 

[Soup Bar]

I guess my buddy isn't getting one for sure now. He doesn't even have internet where he lives.

 

[SlowRevolution]

So hotspot to your phone once a day.

Why should he have to do that?

 

[Spehornoob]

My college didn't allow for consoles to connect to the internet.

No XBox One for college students?

 

[kingocfs]

but you can play games... seriously how do you not see the difference?

The ONLY difference is the 2 weeks vs. 24 hour time period. This DRM strategy is literally exactly alike in every other area.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

We are getting into Poe's law territory here.

So many bad news. How is it even possible?

 

[cdkee]

So what happens if I don't? My Xbox takes a cyanide pill?

 

[UrbanRats]

So connect them?

Yes, I understand why people object to this on principle but let's be pragmatic about it. It's not a big deal.

It is.
Try looking a bit outside of your narrow POV, thanks.

 

[frankie_baby]

So hotspot to your phone once a day.

most phone providers charge quite a bit for tethering

 

[pompidu]

I have no allegiance to any console but this is just a giant cluster fuck and a fairly large "fuck you" to the gaming community.

 

[baxter2231]

I missed the conference, i thought it said 6 but i guess that was london time or something. I come to check gaf a few hours before i thought it was going to happen to see where i could watch and gaf was down at the time. Then i knew sometime was up, no way it would be down unless the event happened or was happening. Everything im seeing seems like one big joke, like it was done on purpose for a laugh. I didnt think it could possibly be this bad even at like the worst case.

 

[YouEnjoyMySelf]

People who are saying "who cares, my internet hasn't been out for that long in years!" are beyond simple minded. The world doesn't revolve around you. I was moving into a new place this year and used my PS3 at my new place when I didn't have internet for a few weeks. And that's a simple example.

GG Microsoft, no re.

 

[SpinningBirdKick]

So connect them?

Yes, I understand why people object to this on principle but let's be pragmatic about it. It's not a big deal.

Not a big deal?

Look at it this way...

You'll pay top prices for a game on the XO, less say $60.

This $60 gives you permission to play the game while your console can check in with the XO DRM servers.

At this end of the console lifecycle of the XO, Microsoft decide to sunset the DRM servers.

All those games you bought, are gone as the XO can't check in with the DRM servers which have been deactivated. Your XO console and it's gaming collection is completely worthless.

How do you like them apples?

 

[rac]

If you have had a blizzard or hurricane in your area and it has knocked out the power for a significant amount of time you have bigger things to worry about than your video game console.

When this happened to me last year what should I have been worrying about instead of playing some videogames?

 

[G-Bus]

If Sony comes out and does something similar I'm building a PC and be done with consoles.

 

[toddhunter]

So what happens 10 years from now when I want to play all my Xbox One games? Going to have to connect it to the internet? What if my router no longer supports my connection? Am I fucked?

You'll still have internet so don't worry.

Now thinking that Microsoft will still be running the servers on the other end out of the kindness of their hearts is another matter.

 

[Minions]

So what happens 10 years from now when I want to play all my Xbox One games? Going to have to connect it to the internet? What if my router no longer supports my connection? Am I fucked?

Microsoft doesn't care 10 years from now.... they will have another console for you to buy. If anything keeping older games means they get less money.

Personally I see games as an investment as well as entertainment. That means the Xbox One is a no go for me.

 

[Cartman86]

What if money is tight and I can't afford home internet anymore and just decide to use public wifi at coffee shops and restaurants? I can't even play a fucking game that I've already bought? Fuck this bullshit. PS4 all the way. No reason to support this bullshit at all.

If you wanted to play a game in the first place you would need to be connected to the internet for that first installation anyways. Unless your plan was to take the Xbox down to the coffee shop with every new purchase this 24 hour limit does nothing for this situation.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

This is worse than the Wii U reveal surely?

 

[Uiki]

Oh, Microsoft...

I keep seeing Kaz in this gif.

Fuck you, GAF.

 

[Anteo]

Connect Xbox ONE time a day.

 

[Zizbuka]

How will they know whether to charge you the "used game pass" fee if you're not online. Obvious that's why. So glad I gave up consoles.

 

[The Elite]

Not too fussed. I don't think there has been a period in the past 10 years when my consoles have been completely offline for more than 24 hours. If it was a constant connection, that would be another story.

Still sucks for people who may not want to connect online.

 

[Fudgepuppy]

man imagine how shitty moving house is gonna be with this thing.

"No honey, we can't move until tomorrow when we've got our broadband installed"
Two days later
"WE HAVE TO GO BACK"

 

[Metroidvania]

Haha_nope.gif

No thanks, MS. Cancle this anti-consumer garbage.

 

[Verendus]

The funniest thing about this is that MS is basically getting all of the bad PR. Even if Sony was to have something similar, the pain will be alleviated thanks to this disaster. Just how poor can you be at handling PR with such a sensitive issue, and a console unveil? Man, this is idiotic to witness.

 

[I H8 Memes]

Wow this thing is pretty much a complete piece of shit.

 

[Dead Prince]

Yeah, or else I won't have permission to play the games I bought.

Fuck that.

then move.

 

[pargonta]

wow.

there is no way in hell i am buying this system lol.

so believable though. it was right before our eyes.

 

[BassForever]

 

[FallingEdge]

Serious question, not trying to troll...hoping someone can flesh it out a bit more for me:

Why is everyone so angry that you have to connect at least once a day?

I understand the Sim City fiasco, but I would imagine Microsoft won't have this problem? Or maybe they will?

I really don't know. All my current consoles are connected to the internet so I'm not sure what the problem is.

Fighting game tournaments.

Playing the XB1 10 years from now, am I going to need to connect it to the internet to just play those games? Assuming no backward compatibility with XB2+

Taking the console to my parents house for the weekend.

 

[kunonabi]

I also like the irony of this statement:


I bolded all-in-one entertainment. Really, MS? So I can throw out all my other boxes! I can't wait to play all my XBLA games on the new system since it's a gaming system and you've claimed it's all in one. But, wait... I can't play my old games? So, I need to keep TWO boxes under my TV to play my 350 DLable games? Not just two boxes but to gaming boxes. I guess you just meant all-in-two.

Really hard to buy into that philosophy, MS, when you can't even support it for GAMING.

Don't forget the external hard drive and cable box.

 

[Kusagari]

The ONLY difference is the 2 weeks vs. 24 hour time period. This DRM strategy is literally exactly alike in every other area.

That's a pretty huge difference.

 

[Tugatrix]

Quick someone do a gif of Bane Saying "loging everyday, then you have my permission to play"

 

[Hung_real]

So can Adam Orth get his job back now ?

He kind of prepared us for this megaton .

But yeah, WUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

 

[DryvBy]

Lol, so why should I buy your system, MS?

 

[denshuu]

This is worse than the Wii U reveal surely?

The Wii U reveal wasn't that bad. It's when it came out, and its launch games didn't, when we realized it was terrible.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Basically, my objections to always online are:

1) I want to be able to play if there's a blip in my connection or I need to reboot my router. This is not fine for true always online, but it fine for 24 hours.

2) I want to be able to play if there's a day-long or multi-day ISP issue. This may or may not be fine for a 24 hour timer, but is fine for Steam's month-ish timer.

3) I want to be able to play when I am moving and don't yet have a new ISP. This is not fine for a 24 hour timer, but is fine for Steam's month-ish timer.

4) I want to be able to have the option of playing once the company running the show shuts down online services. This is not fine for any service that requires online authentication ever.

 

[tnaden]

The ONLY difference is the 2 weeks vs. 24 hour time period. This DRM strategy is literally exactly alike in every other area.

I still don't know where that 2 week period came from. I've been offline for months and been fine... Is this some new thing?

EDIT: Yea that thread.. there's someone in the comments that says 6+ months. Bullshit statement to make this look "better".

 

[UraMallas]

The overreactions are great. Can't wait to see what happens if Sony says the exact same thing.

This thread is more pro-consumer than anti-Microsoft. The resistance seems to be against consoles in general. I know I'm fed up.

 

[NullPointer]

What is the reason for this? Pirated games weren't that big of a deal on xbox 360 AFAIK.

Well Activision had to make due with a measly $500 million in day one sales for the latest COD.

How are they supposed to feed their children?

 

[Htown]

then move.

I'm sorry, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

 

[ThePeoplesBureau]

 

[graywolf323]

This 100% false. I have opened up Steam, been notified my Internet isn't working, and then chose the prompt to open in offline mode. Maybe there is a setting you would have had to turn on in the past but as long as you do that right now you will be able to open in offline mode in the future.

to be fair, Steam offline mode isn't perfect and does have problems like that pop up

 

[THRILLH0]

Not a big deal?

Look at it this way...

You'll pay top prices for a game on the XO, less say $60.

This $60 gives you permission to play the game while your console can check in with the XO DRM servers.

At this end of the console lifecycle of the XO, Microsoft decide to sunset the DRM servers.

All those games you bought, are gone as the XO can't check in with the DRM servers which have been deactivated. Your XO console and it's gaming collection is completely worthless.

How do you like them apples?

Hey I completely understand where you're coming from.

I'm just saying that day-to-day I don't see this as a big deal.

I also have faith that a solution will be provided to avoid the above scenario before Microsoft sunset the servers.

I guess I get why people are annoyed, was just putting forth my personal view.

 

[B-Dubs]

This is worse than the Wii U reveal surely?

Easily. Wii U looks like amazing compared to this shit.

 

[Bunta]

The ONLY difference is the 2 weeks vs. 24 hour time period. This DRM strategy is literally exactly alike in every other area.

Yeah, that's a pretty big difference...

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

How, how, how, how, HOW, HOW, H O W is this shit getting worse?

Just how deep does the rabbit hole get?
Have we even hit rock bottom yet?