I do not even understand what youre talking about.
"Do we have any actual evidence that the PS4 has any advantage in power whatsoever over the Xbox One?"
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Microsoft: "We purposefully did not target the highest end graphics"
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I do not even understand what youre talking about.
"Do we have any actual evidence that the PS4 has any advantage in power whatsoever over the Xbox One?"
Because CoD is far bigger than Killzone can ever hope to be. I imagine MS wanted pressers to read "Play Next-Gen CoD This Fall on Xbox One." or something like that. That's what it was all for...Steven Spielberg and Halo series, watch a football game with your Fantasy Football League stats, all major sports games landing on Xbox One this Fall, etc.. All for the press coverage.
We'll have to wait until E3 to see how year one stacks up for X1 and PS4.
Systems built around it should have very little impact at all. PS3 and 360 both used hypervisors.
les papillons sexuels
Banned
because Microsoft approach to this first glimpse is to attract as much awearness to it as they can. To do this they focused on broad appeal, t.v, sports, and cod. A popular racing game, 2 sports games (arguably the 2 most popular sports in the world), and cod. The only exception was remedy's game, but that seemed to be a nod more towards the cross, game-t.v aspects, along with the mention of the halo-spielberg announcement.
It's naive to think they were relying on EA, it's much more likely that they want the idea of EA and Avtivision (the two biggest names in publishing) to be attached to the xbox brand.
Also, the quote needs context. Are they talking about pushing the highest end graphics, or developing hardware which pushes the highest end graphics. The former could simply mean that they're looking to ensure slow but steady increases to game fidelety over the console life, the second means they're cheap.
I'm already pass I'm not sure why you can't even see that from my above posts, also I was replying to a above statement.
From all the evidence gathered right now?
Yes it is, will it even matter when these two consoles compete for sales?
Most likely not.
Trent Strong
Banned
I'm wondering the same thing.
Goalpost; it's moving
Bleedorang3
Banned
Maybe. Personally it doesn't make a difference to me if I have to wait a couple of months after release for a couple of games. We'll see at E3 how the games are coming along.
One thing is for sure. This conference definitely wasn't for GAF. Time will tell whether that's a good thing or not (I'm betting it is). The cross-media functionality of the One puts the PS4s to shame
oldergamer
Member
singling out that quote doesn't make sense when we know that Sony did the same thing.
Windom Earle
Member
Maybe they have seen some of your unbiased posts in the Forza/GT troll thread.
lol, how dare Sony!
SniperHunter
Banned
That CoD game looked bad...why would anyone buy a new machine to play something that looks like a PS360 game? It's like the Wii U all over again.
I am not too big on these "cross generational" games to be honest. MS should have showed Ryse instead.
I am not too big on these "cross generational" games to be honest. MS should have showed Ryse instead.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Why not? Both consoles will launch at the same time for about the same price. Of course it will be a factor, among others.
Can you link to where you originally posted it?
They chose a poor selection of games to showcase the system's power.
Cartoony-looking CG renders for EA Sports games, a boring stretch of track for Forza, a too-brief look at Remedy's next game, and an extremely underwhelming CoD.
Hopefully they can show more impressive stuff at E3.
Really?
Go ahead and point them out for me.
So I should give them a free pass for this action?
Gemüsepizza;58438529 said:
There isn't a single generation where a console won in sales based on power of a device.
SniperHunter
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and this was being aired on spike, they made such a big deal about. I didn't see a single next gen game there. What a waste....
Forza 5 and Quantum Break... no longer considered next gen games.
Why are you lying like this?
les papillons sexuels
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they made a deal about it because of the games, not because of the quality of the footage shown.
Showing off a GTA which looks worse then Saints row is still going to get more attention because it's a GTA game.
Brand is important.
Also, the cod stuff here and killzone stuff from the sony presser looked pretty much the same graphically.
corrected
but if sony plays a microsoft on consumer policies, fuck sony too!
2014 the year of the super-pc!
Gemüsepizza
Member
This is such a misleading statement. Yes, because there were other big factors which prevented this. For example the original Xbox did launch years later and was completely new and unproven... Of course it did not win. But what happens when two consoles launch at the same time for a similar price? The better specs become an advantage.
Even with all they have announced, I don't see what MS would do with 3 GB.
If there really is a 2 GB difference in capacity for games, I'd expect it to be less significant in multiplatform titles than the GPU difference.
BruceLeeRoy
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So it's also looking extremely likely that the OS is using 3gb of the ram.
5gb of ram left. SMH
Its going to be fascinating to see how much of a difference there is in multi-plat games.
5gb of ram left. SMH
Its going to be fascinating to see how much of a difference there is in multi-plat games.
Windom Earle
Member
You were the one wondering about the reactions.
I doubt they care. I think lulling in MS was cute, but ultimately I doubt there was an effect. MS was not ready either way.
You're just blindly hating at this point.
They had nothing to do with me they had to do with me questioning for evidence.
Well I care.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
you mean the ps2 wasn't more powerful than the dreamcast? and it didn't launch a year earlier than the gamecube and the xbox?
the ps1 didn't launch at the same time as the saturn, was more powerful, and came out 2 years before the n64?
and this generation still isn't over...
I dont think MS even knows at this point. Looks like they were just reserving ram for future needs by some of the statements made.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Because it suggests that specs won't influence sales, which isn't true when you have two consoles which are very similar in most areas (games, price, date...). Of course there are factors which can be more important than specs, but I don't see any of them favoring the Xbox.
fart town usa
Gold Member
lol, oh man.
I said that there isn't a single generation that was won based purely on a power advantage.
If this were true consoles like the Vita and OG Xbox would have done much better in their markets but clearly the main audience of the gaming community isn't purely swayed by power.
Gemüsepizza;58441061 said:
In a huge way?
No they won't, exclusives and community are going to be much bigger reasons than power for people adopting the Xbox One of PS4.
Gemüsepizza
Member
And I didn't say that specs are the only important thing.
Windom Earle
Member
Take a breezer then, it was a rough night!
les papillons sexuels
Banned
The PS2 wasn't more powerful then the dreamcast. Also the xbox and the gamecube were both the same generation as the ps2.
SniperHunter
Banned
I am going to post the same shots people posted in the Drive Club thread
Quantum Break looks great, hopefully that was in game game stuff and not cg/target render
Gemüsepizza;58441617 said:
When did I say that you said that?
I merely said that console performance does not determine the winner in sales in a generation, in fact I never commented at all on your opinion of this situation.
I am going to post the same shots people posted in the Drive Club thread
Quantum Break looks great, hopefully that was in game game stuff and not cg/target render
What does this have to do with next-gen games being at the Xbox reveal? BTW that Zonda shot is terrible.
What's next are you going to pull out a list war?
Glorified G
Member
Which is a meaningless statement, considering there are many more factors that come into play than just "purley" limiting it to one aspect.
It's like saying "There isn't a single generation that was won based purely on a price advantage." Well no shit. There is a lot more to purchasing a console.
specialguy
Banned
driving game bullshots have been photorealistic for the past gen already.
so for bullshots, next gen driving games will look the same as current gen. aka perfect.
So basically you're agreeing with me?
This isn't a meaningless statement, it means that people saying that the performance advantage guarantees a PS4 win this generation have no justifiable evidence to lean on.
Yeah I can't agree with that either.. bottom-line we have no games to compare between the PS4 and Xbox One yet until we get similar games running on each.
What? There's a huge difference between the two. Even without taking into consideration that Killzone was a live demo and the other is a trailer full of cutscenes.
Well that explains it, you're obviously delusional.
Even if the graphics were BETTER than the ps4..which it clearly isn't...
Why the fuck would any of you xbox loyal defenders want to purchase this console anyways?
-Always on line
-Basically blocks used games
-Basically destroys the concept of renting games
-Less focus on gaming software, and more focus on TV and other apps
-Kinect is constantly required
-Kinect is always listening and watching you
-Xbox1 is fucking larger than 2 xbox's combined, and the console itself is ugly as sin
So why the fuck do you care about the graphics? What microsoft has done with the xbox1 in general is a joke, and should be laughed and ridiculed upon.
Fuck you Microsoft. Fuck you.
Why the fuck would any of you xbox loyal defenders want to purchase this console anyways?
-Always on line
-Basically blocks used games
-Basically destroys the concept of renting games
-Less focus on gaming software, and more focus on TV and other apps
-Kinect is constantly required
-Kinect is always listening and watching you
-Xbox1 is fucking larger than 2 xbox's combined, and the console itself is ugly as sin
So why the fuck do you care about the graphics? What microsoft has done with the xbox1 in general is a joke, and should be laughed and ridiculed upon.
Fuck you Microsoft. Fuck you.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I'm not sure exactly what "cross-media" means in this context (was that a term they used?), but anyway, says who? Sony hasn't even talked about the PS4's media capabilities yet.
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