Gemüsepizza
Member
I'm starting to believe that Microsoft at least has to do something like that, they can't be seriously believing to sell their console for a premium price after all this mess.
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Kotaku: "Only 90% of Xbox One GPU usable for games"- PS4 GPU up to 66% more powerful?
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I'm starting to believe that Microsoft at least has to do something like that, they can't be seriously believing to sell their console for a premium price after all this mess.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Gemüsepizza;59056197 said:
If they were serious, they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
All the XBOne does is fantasy football and the NFL, and Yamcha's only claim to fame was that he played sports... folks I think I'm onto something here.
Thanks you for this, Finally people can stop with the ridiculous percentage argument.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I know this is kind of off topic, but it XBone seriously the abbreviated way you are supposed to spell the new console? Because that just sounds retarded.
It's intentionally meant to be derogatory.
The PS4 has a separate chip for encoding/streaming, so I'm going to say the GPU will be mostly or entirely free for game rendering.
GoofsterStud
Member
Don't worry. Xbox One has secret sauce:
PS4=Vegeta: Just looking for raw potential, focus on fight. Hard training to be at the same power level of Goku (sometimes he is), but at the end of the day he is just behind. His father was the king of the planet.
PC=Goku: Fighting since he was born, always ready to help the humanity. He has died several times, and resurrected as well, always at the top. His father in law is a "good-natured" bearded man.3).
XB1=Gohan: Was very powerful in his first years, now he wears weird clothes and uses dumb gadgets. (according to the prophecy from an old guy) he has inside some secret unlimited power.
Wii-U=Mr.Satan/Hercule: Scared from the rest of the fighters, although he usually try to show the opposite (confidence in himself), underpowered. Almost everybody trust him and enjoyed his past background, thanks to that, he will save humanity with the help of Goku and Vegeta.
Holy shit
The Abominable Snowman
Member
It's like the PS4 is slowly creeping up to 100%.
Then the percentage-challenged will REALLY be upset.
Then the percentage-challenged will REALLY be upset.
PS4=Vegeta: Just looking for raw potential, focus on fight. Hard training to be at the same power level of Goku (sometimes he is), but at the end of the day he is just behind. His father was the king of the planet.
PC=Goku: Fighting since he was born, always ready to help the humanity. He has died several times, and resurrected as well, always at the top. His father in law is a "good-natured" bearded man.
XB1=Gohan: Was very powerful in his first years, now he wears weird clothes and uses dumb gadgets. (according to the prophecy from an old guy) he has inside some secret unlimited power.
Wii-U=Mr.Satan/Hercule: Scared from the rest of the fighters, although he usually try to show the opposite (confidence in himself), underpowered. Almost everybody trust him and enjoyed his past background, thanks to that, he will save humanity with the help of Goku and Vegeta.
By far the most accurate assessment lmao.
Well done
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
THE CLOUD WILL OWN PS4's SOUL!!!!!
Damn PS4 is just molesting the Xbone. Please Sony, make some magic happen and price it right. I can't stomach this industry if the horrific Xbox one system is tops
$399 and none of the draconian bullshit would have me dancing in the streets naked.
If it's $399 I think I would actually cry a little
but considering the rumours about Xbox One pricing too, I'm going with $499.99.
We need to put these in terms we can all understand.
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The PS4 equals 150 Gamecubes
The Xbox One equals 115 Gamecubes
The Wii U equals 75 Gamecubes
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PS4 is obviously Majin Vegeta
Xbox One is clearly Namek Saga Goku
Wii U is Cell Saga Krillin
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The PS4 equals 150 Gamecubes
The Xbox One equals 115 Gamecubes
The Wii U equals 75 Gamecubes
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PS4 is obviously Majin Vegeta
Xbox One is clearly Namek Saga Goku
Wii U is Cell Saga Krillin
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cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
If accurate. This seals the deal for me. PS4 looks like it would be a fairly large upgrade relative to Xbox One.
Why did MS go with such weak hardware?
Holly Caust
Banned
To save money. Plus I think a good chunk of the budget is spent on kinect 2.0 and packing it with the console. Like how The Wii u and it's tablet being probably 1/3 of the overall price of it.
googleplex
Member
Great illustration of the power discrepancy. This needs to posted when ever someone keeps saying the PS4 and the Xbone will have graphical parity.
Where is Xbone + Cloud? :O
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
STRAIGHT UP!
I hope Sony keep the price at 400.
Even if they have to bite the bullet a little, it would be worth it.
Interfectum
Member
someone send that to brad shoemaker.
The bit about RAM bandwidth ignores eSRAM though. Though it's maybe unfair to simply add eSRAM's bandwidth to DDR3's, I think it's also unfair to ignore it totally.
It's not that Microsoft went for weak hardware (like others have said, the machines source their parts from AMD) it's that Microsoft has completely different goals for the Xbox One and the hardware choices reflect this.
It seems very obvious that Microsoft no longer considers Sony its main rival (nor the gaming industry its top priority) but rather Apple and Google.
Holly Caust said:
I remember a Gaffer damaged his Wii U's pad and he posted the price Nintendo was charging him for a replacement. IIRC is was ~$140. Ridiculous.
velociraptor
Junior Member
It is accurate.
Yeah, that seems more likely. $500 is the top end of my comfort zone. No way will it be more than that.
Or 400x faster, the sky is the limit with cloud
In the long run (2089 and later) xbox one will go ahead of PS4 for sure
I guess the cloud use will add another 10$ per day to any game for playing in the cloud, so games will add extra value !!!!
Xbox seems so amazing, people cant see in the future, that is all
ERP on beyond 3d said 10% is inline with expectation. So I'd say he is hinting that ps4 isn't far off, especially if it wants a slick notification / OS overlay whilst playing a game..
And encoding takes RAM, so expect a slight hit when everything is sharing a single pool (and hdd).. plus having your mate remotely assist requires resource.
Of course the PS4 has more resource in the first place, but people shouldn't get suckered into such obvious misrepresentations... its got an advantage for sure, so wait for the first multiplats before playing the numbers game, especially when architectures don't make that a totally equivocal exercise.
And, I can say that if the difference somehow pans out ass simplistically as people fear, ill be treating my ps4 to all the multiplats next Gen..
Holly Caust
Banned
Holy shit, that's a lot. That scares me into not getting a wii-u :/
Who is ERP and why should we believe him? Man, this whole affair has random cats coming out of the woodwork. While the vgleaks stuff for both consoles wound up being true that doesn't mean we should take random people's rumors as legit.
If he hadn't posted a screencap of the total from their site I wouldn't believe it. A large chunk of the Wii U's price is tied up in the controller. I doubt the Xbox One's Kinect 2.0 is going to cost anywhere near that much, though. Holy smokes.Holly Caust said:
Meccanical
Member
Well we already no that it has separate structures for functions not related to gaming, at least according to Digital Foundry articles I have read, can you bring evidence to the contrary?
Peaople are saying that PS4 can only use 7GB, but Sony dudes seem to keep saying they can use all eight, I don't know how they got that to work, but we'll see what's what come E3 time.
Prior to unveil DF expected both use 100% of their GPU "powah" while playing games. This new locking away 10% for "general usage" is new and given Sony have yet to detail this kind of information themselves accepting one or the other conclusion can be fallacious. That said, I am hoping that GPU resources (not 10% at least) are locked away in PS4 but rather be like PS3/360 where it's "on demand".
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
There was already going to be a framerate difference
Armoured Priest
Member
So..it's looking like PS4 is over 90.00%?
Meccanical
Member
Well the Digital foundry article also mentioned a seperate "GPU- like compute module" that neither they nor anyone besides Sony knows what function it serves.
Maybe it helps with stuff like that? Who knows, really can't wait to see the black box and what's inside of it myself.
PS4=Vegeta: Just looking for raw potential, focus on fight. Hard training to be at the same power level of Goku (sometimes he is), but at the end of the day he is just behind. His father was the king of the planet.
PC=Goku: Fighting since he was born, always ready to help the humanity. He has died several times, and resurrected as well, always at the top. His father in law is a "good-natured" bearded man.
XB1=Gohan: Was very powerful in his first years, now he wears weird clothes and uses dumb gadgets. (according to the prophecy from an old guy) he has inside some secret unlimited power.
Wii-U=Mr.Satan/Hercule: Scared from the rest of the fighters, although he usually try to show the opposite (confidence in himself), underpowered. Almost everybody trust him and enjoyed his past background, thanks to that, he will save humanity with the help of Goku and Vegeta.
This is incredible.
Why is this man still a junior?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I really hope this power difference gets fully exploited by developers and this generation the PS4 gets all the superior multiplatform titles.
It probably won't. There's no incentive for third party developers to make one version of the game look and run better than the other. We'll see the difference in 2nd wave first party titles for both platforms.
TheLaughingStock
Member
I'd say Broly but he's a loser.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Well why not? Isn't the objective to make each version the best it can be?
Hell, this generation Xbox 360 got all these superior console ports.
Why can't PS4 have the same?
Hip Hop
Member
Oh gawd,
I dropped my Wii U Gamepad the other day. Basically, I pulled my Gamepad up but the cord was tangled someplace. It managed to pull the pad right out of my hand with extra force, knocking it down about from waist level, onto tile floor.
Not a single scratch on the thing and was seriously surprised myself. I stood in place until I could look down to see the aftermath. I don't know what happened. The bang was loud and absolutely no damage.
Would the headaches that I occasionally endure with PC gaming be the 01's tendency to go berserk? lol
Headaches or not, PC is still worth it.
32mb of cache can't do that much for 5gb of data and 2GB of unique data per frame though can it?
Maybe negate the penalty for msaa or something, not much else.
Basically every Kotaku rumor has been correct up to this point, afaik?
Do you mean literal headaches?
If so: FOV's almost always the culprit. Sometimes an unstable framerate and motion blur will do it.