Except for several times when he didn't. I don't think the presentation was voice-based either, but don't make verifiably false claims the basis for what you say.
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XBOX ONE Reveal: UI faked from the start. Very choppy, and CBoaT
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Except for several times when he didn't. I don't think the presentation was voice-based either, but don't make verifiably false claims the basis for what you say.
Did you really think it wasn't?!? You've been here long enough to know otherwise.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLBHaGSCnRU
They need to follow this kind of thing as an example and display text that reads "experience simulated" when doing these kind of demos.
Is it surprising? No. But how can anyone defend them literally say "look at how quick and responsive it is" when it's not even running in real time?
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
Yeah, their tv presentation was bullshit but lets not pretend the OS is going to run anything like this at launch.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
Banned
Yep, they appear to have an issue loading Directv content in the snapped pane. Clearly the reason behind her saying "Obviously we have a long ways to go."
60_gig_PS3
Banned
Looks slower than my cable box
Devilgunman
Member
So why didn't they show this on the stage? Why lie?
The video is question, from Wired, shows the UI in real time, it is choppy and slow.
Credit to alr1ght for the gif.
Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifa9Q7ATfVA
That .gif is misleading. She actually speaks 2 different commands. The first one where we see her saying "Xbox go home" and the 2nd one just a moment before the live TV feed kicks in. It's actually not much slower than what was demonstrated.
Watch the part of the actual video this was taken from:
http://youtu.be/ifa9Q7ATfVA?t=1m7s
Microsoft wouldn't even hold back the 360 launch even though they probably knew most of them would die from RROD. They aren't going to hold back this launch. They'll ship it as good as they can get it and work out the kinks with software updates.
Karak
Member
The same reasons games are trotted out as "games" when they are CGI trailers. Impressions for the viewers. Its happened since the first E3 and it will continue.
shinra-bansho
Member
As shown in the presentation? They have about 3 months to get it that way.
I don't see how that changes that the presentation as it was, was highly disingenuous, given the current state of the OS and that they cannot guarantee it will match what was shown. And that the entire show was centered on responsiveness and ease of use for the incredibly lazy who find remote controls too taxing.
But it's okay for Microsoft to pretend at their reveal right?
Opus Angelorum
Member
Wasn't faked? Probably was, but as a programmer I understand the process of building software. To look at these videos and suggest the final version will perform similarity (read: awful) is short sighted.
I believe there's also some concern with how choppy and slow the video as shown in the upper left. Watch the clip on YouTube and you can see it better.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
So are we getting another half-baked OS at launch? It seems like Microsoft is copying every little thing Sony did wrong with the PS3.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Huh, where's the 7 months old info from?
The FPS in the preview box...
Phonomezer
Banned
Like Sony pretending with their share button, dear.
It's all unfinished software, these consoles are months away from launch. Let's exercise some COMMON SENSE.
Talesfrommyass I'm sure, didn't they start working on it in November?
Did you post a thread about Deep Down and it's slapped on UI?
Opus Angelorum
Member
Disingenuous? Probably. But come release, absolutely irrelevant.
No, your comment about the "hate" being balanced.
Yeah, I would've appreciated explicitely stating target render, or dropping the act and just had a video montage of people using it similar to the Kinect reveal. Ah well, they're always trying to make their product look as good as possible so it's not a big surprise.
Won't this depend on the cable box? It IS possible to send commands over HDMI, so I imagine newer ones that are the "correct" models could work fairly smoothly with the X1, at least about as well as trying to use a TV remote with the PS3 anyway (probably smoother by not using IR.) I do imagine it'll be rough for any that need to use IR blasters, and if I'm wrong and no cable box actually supports that TV link functionality or the X1 won't... well crap, haha.
She says it in the video. Though to be fair it is hard to know whether she means they have been working on it for 7 months or that in 7 months when it ships (i.e. December) we won't believe how far it has come.
It's biggest differentiator has not been demoed to show that is something beyond what we already have. It is basically what we saw with Milo.
It's the concept for what they are reaching for. The Xbox guy was acting like he was Steve Jobs demoing the user interface in front of the public for the first time. That "snappiness" doesn't exist.
It's the concept for what they are reaching for. The Xbox guy was acting like he was Steve Jobs demoing the user interface in front of the public for the first time. That "snappiness" doesn't exist.
Was the share button thing faked? It did appear on their Facebook page.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
You see all those vents? This thing better not hover 2 inches above the surface while its trying to furiously vectorize the ridiculously pretentious fonts and TV crap and then melt in a fiery pile of plastic.
Sorry to break it to you, but the share button wasn't faked.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
What you expect when the thread opened by him?
Yeah, but the way Takuya's post is worded and the way that .gif is presented implies that there is lag between when a command is stated and when the UI reacts, which is not the case. Regarding the FPS, as someone else pointed out, it's quite possibly not a problem with the Xbone, but with the cable provider.
Are folks planning on watching live TV in the preview pane?
Actually, watching the video, the gif is completely misleading. The response was less than a second in the video. The stuttering in the cable feed snapped to the side looks rubbish, but could be the result of many things. As with most previews, I'm happy to wait until I see the product in action before I cheer or jeer, but I'll give credit where its due.
Devilgunman
Member
It's different though. CG trailer serves the purpose as an announcement for a game. It has nothing to do with quality or performance of the game. On stage presentation on the other hand is representation of the performance of the hardware they're selling. If what shown is not the actually performance then it is false advertisement.
Neuromancer
Member
You had one job, Xbone.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Its not going to be that slow at launch. Even freeware like XMBC isn't that slow at loading content from TV. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I pointed this out last month...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=59408581&postcount=108
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=59408581&postcount=108
WTH at the Live TV frame rate when "Snapped":
Hidden One
Member
lol Damn that lag is highly noticeable.
tfur
Member
Xbox 720 fall 2014... believe.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
It's already proved she's not talking about the console release date,she's talking about how herself self worked hard
But let's open a new thread and blacklash it right,even there already an old thread there
Don't think that was faked dude.