Sometimes it's worth taking a look at peoples post histories before you question their reasoning, you'll find the same people showing up in a lot of these threads saying the same thing.
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XBOX ONE Reveal: UI faked from the start. Very choppy, and CBoaT
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Sometimes it's worth taking a look at peoples post histories before you question their reasoning, you'll find the same people showing up in a lot of these threads saying the same thing.
TheGreyHulk
Member
I knew it wasn't real the instant I saw the sports games because.... I SAW THOSE SPORTS GAMES.... lol.
it was pretty obvious that it was all staged. no way they'd risk showing errors during the unveil. they had to script it
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
That was his point, BEFORE launch the 360 was derided and called "Xbox 1.5". Go back and read the 360 MTV reveal thread. After it launched was a different matter.
IsntChrisL
Member
They don't want you using a TV tuner. They want you to be paying for cable. There's a lot more people willing to pay for info on your viewing habits on that side of the fence.
IHaveCandy
Banned
I think that was more due to Sony and Krazy Ken over-promising and people buying it.
I didn't say it was wall-to-wall hate, I said that they're often a punching bag (in general, not just among gamers) and that they've never had the kind of affection from gamers that Nintendo and Sony have enjoyed, and I'm not sure how any of the things you list suggest otherwise. I mentioned the reaction to the 360 at reveal. And I'm not really sure why you think that people picking 360 versions of multiplatforms because they're superior is supposed to be indicative of people loving Microsoft and not just maximising value for money.
Besides, I'm not sure where all of the threads full of people justifying their XBLG subscriptions are. Generally all I see are threads full of people calling other people idiots for having one.
[edit]And, to be clear, I'm not saying that people are shitting on the Xbone because it's MS and everyone hates MS either.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I thought it was obvious when he stopped saying "Xbox" after a while.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
With Microsoft's luck, if they did the demo live a Apple commercial would be playing when they went to live TV.
Zoramon089
Banned
Or how the kinect didn't work as well as initially hyped?
TouchMyBox
Member
These things are always fake (at least in microsoft's case) I got to see the "NXE" dashboard demo from E3 running live on a laptop.
That didn't work too bad for MS in the end though. 6 months is a lot of time to optimise software.
That didn't work too bad for MS in the end though. 6 months is a lot of time to optimise software.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
MS says a lot of things, natch.
I'm far from an Xbox fan, I just don't think it's fair to criticize something that's not finished yet.
lonely-xbone
Lol perfect, thank you fellow GAFfer.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
I could see that being useful for more serious games. So fair point.
I would never want notifications like that popping up when I was watching a movie, TV or sports as I'm more into those things than games. So I'm never going to stop that and accept a game invite anyway (and I don't play much MP anyway these days other than Borderlands 2) so I'd have it disabled so notifications weren't distracting me from whatever I was watching.
Pot..kettle..something...something
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I wasn't a gaffer then, but I did read it. And that's precisely what it was like. I especially remember those 1up "tangible difference between PS3 and Xbox 360 games" stuff based on games like Ridge Racer...
Basically, the Xbox 360, in my view, didn't start getting any respect until games like Gears of War showed up which displayed that it wasn't as weak as people were pretending, and especially once the sales didn't completely crater like some thought it would after the PS3 came out. There were articles left and right calling the Xbox 360 the next Dreamcast, and how even Peter Moore's mere presence as apart of the Xbox team was a death sentence. Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are what made me give the Xbox brand a chance, but it wasn't until this moment that I was absolutely certain the Xbox Brand's image (and fortunes) would ultimately improve in a big way compared to the original xbox.
No shit? It's a proof of concept, and the product is 6 months away. They would have been stupid to have beta software demoed live. This is honestly outrage for the sake of outrage at this point, evident by the fact that the 'damning' video in question is weeks old. I was under the impression that everyone knew the OS demo was smoke and mirrors a day or so after the event?
Let us not forget though E3 is all about games games (running on a high end PC with top of the line graphics card) games games games. I won't believe anything until I see a Xbone live in person.
take this as a trailer for the UI then ya goofball
Nah, I'm looking forward to the games. I just question the point of the May unveiling is all. I'm starting to get the impression that this console is being rushed to launch.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Not a good look when the X1 is faster than you.
Raven77
Member
At some point you have to ask. Microsoft, what on Earth have you been doing the past 3-4 years?
It's almost like they just thought that nobody would want next-gen after 8 friggin years, then saw the PS4 and got worried, and decided to demo a console that is simply nowhere near ready for release. Not now, not in 4 months either from what I've seen.
But then again, we live in an age where it seems like every console launches with lots of missing features...
It's almost like they just thought that nobody would want next-gen after 8 friggin years, then saw the PS4 and got worried, and decided to demo a console that is simply nowhere near ready for release. Not now, not in 4 months either from what I've seen.
But then again, we live in an age where it seems like every console launches with lots of missing features...
uncledonnie
Banned
RedNumberFive
Banned
That's not like Microsoft.
If you're trying to suggest I'm a fanboy, I think you'll see you'll hear the collective laughter of a million souls all at once pointing the finger and giggling at the sheer audacity of being so fucking hilariously wrong
josecitoxnyo
Member
No need to be so rough on a software unfinished, unpolished, and with a couple more months of development.
btw lol.
btw lol.
3rdamention
Member
famousmortimer
Banned
That's where I am also. No reason to judge it now.
But I think it's just as absurd for people to say "It will be fixed by launch." Really? You can see into the future? Likely ≠ true
Sadly this use case won't work. The Xbox doesn't have a built in dvr and isn't able to program your existing one. It's pretty much only useful in a live TV setting...
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I agree with this completely. If it performed like this on release, then there's literally nothing anybody could say to defend it, but being so early and with plenty of time before release, it just comes off like a cheap shot. Hell, it may not even perform this way at E3...
We could literally be having an entirely different discussion on this very matter in 6 days depending on what Microsoft shows at E3, or allows people to try.
Somehow I doubt this very much. So it can interface with your hd set top box, see an accurate television guide from your set top box's programming guide, but yet you couldn't instruct the dvr to use its pre-existing dvr function through Kinect? The Xbox One doesn't have to record, simply let the user's existing dvr do it on command through Kinect.
I would agree, if it was doing anything remotely impressive. It's a browser window and a 320x240 video window and its running at 5fps... That is not good.
Viruz
Member
Vicetrailia
Member
Not worried, this will get ironed out. This HAS to run pretty smoothly, right?
ProfessorMoran
Member
They better reserve 5 GB and all that special sauce ESRAM.
PJV3
Member
I just noticed the dog.
The guide it gets is from a centralized service. Similar as the one you'd pull up running Windows Media Center or MythTV. Hell even the Wii U can interface with your local guide and control your cable box. The HDMI in does not allow for recording, as far as I know.
It will likely have to control your DVR's precise inputs to record - something that may not be supported across the board or at all.
Yeah. They're not going to release something that is that broken... MS has always been very good with their OS. I have no reason to suspect that these bugs won't be ironed out by release.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
lol, watching that vid again showcases how utterly misleading these gifs are... She said xbox go home, and it was already at the home screen when they changed to the tv. There was a delay in their focusing on the television, so we don't even get to see it transition to her home screen.
What the gif leaves out is that when she said, "Xbox Snap Live Tv," it did so immediately after she finished saying it.
The transition just wasn't a smooth one and obviously the entire UI isn't silky smooth right now. However, the Gif tries to give the impression that the first voice command she gave is what took so long to snap the live tv box in, which is a very dishonest portrayal of what is happening in the video, imo. She gave two commands and the Xbox responded to both. There was no super long delay between her command and the action happening on screen.
So even some of our gif creators are "faking" their own demonstrations.
What the gif leaves out is that when she said, "Xbox Snap Live Tv," it did so immediately after she finished saying it.
The transition just wasn't a smooth one and obviously the entire UI isn't silky smooth right now. However, the Gif tries to give the impression that the first voice command she gave is what took so long to snap the live tv box in, which is a very dishonest portrayal of what is happening in the video, imo. She gave two commands and the Xbox responded to both. There was no super long delay between her command and the action happening on screen.
So even some of our gif creators are "faking" their own demonstrations.
Viruz
Member
I see what you did there...
Azure Dream
Member
No, actually that works like that with the Kinect on 360 too. As long as the Xbox knows to be listening, you don't have to preface every command with "Xbox, " although some commands automatically make it stop listening. IIRC, you can even tell it multiple commands in a row, with pauses between, and it'll execute them in order.