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Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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Another junior which is perfectly fine with MS statement. I don't know what is you bias or agenda but this is clearly anti-consumer move. And forget about 10-30$ games. If this thing will roll better prepare for 70$ games.
I don't want to point fingers at anyone but this thread is mega suspicious
symphonask
Member
The catch is that only one account can play it at a time. So if I'm playing a game on my console and one of my 'family member' is playing on another console, then they can only play up to 1 hour before the system checks online, sees that the original owner (me) is playing the game, and boots my family member from the game.
pretty much this.
doesnt matter if it sounds "better" than you were expecting, its still a bunch of horse shit.
holy shit this thread moved quick.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
My goodness--if you think that one sale of this level compares to the insanely good Steam sales, you're out of your mind.
Less powerful, probably will cost more, still paying for Live, awful anti-consumer practices, yep pretty much.
Again, I can easily see them requiring you to tie a credit card to the account to enable game sharing.
Also, I wouldn't put it past them to require Gold for it, either.
Seriously, when has any of this broken in a way that has indicated a more open system?
3rdamention
Member
dripdripsplash
Member
Like through the Cloud or what, without the disc ? That's actually pretty cool!
So they kind of did what I exptected. I assumed they would give publishers control over the always-online aspect of a particular game, but in the end, it's used games. And the 24 hours "check for updates" is ridiculous, it's a simple DRM but doesn't sound that restrictive the way they're doing it.
Well, if your friends use the same Xbone, yes. Apparently each account is tethered to a base console; that's also how the 24 hour check-in is reduced to a 1 hour check-in if you're using any other than the base console. Your account moves freely, but it's limited on consoles that are not yours.
Krisprolls
Banned
That's horrible. When I buy a game disc, I can do whatever I want with it. Play with it offline on vacation, loan it, sell it.
No way MS is taking all that from me.
I guess that's what you get when you accept to pay for p2p online gaming, things only get worse from then.
PS4 here I come.
No way MS is taking all that from me.
I guess that's what you get when you accept to pay for p2p online gaming, things only get worse from then.
PS4 here I come.
entremet
Member
Where have you been? Steam, App Store, etc.
While I can see that Steam having cheaper sales makes it "different" to this new policy that will most likely be put in place for both consoles, I still find it hard to differentiate them. I live in Australia, our prices aren't "cheap". Only in America do you get the "cheap" factor, so really its only "America" that are worrying about this new approach, because the rest of the world is already use to $80 price tags on everything, even digital.
I still think this is just the way the market is moving, and people denying that are just going to cause more headaches for themselves. There are a lot of positives to DD, like the play while it downloads and offering of free-to-play games. Cheap sales will also "hopefully" come out of this, but the reaction is definitely hilarious.
As I said, PC gamers have been use to this for years, and it is no surprise that Microsoft and Sony have seen how much dosh Valve makes on a market like Steam, so why not copy them?
I still think this is just the way the market is moving, and people denying that are just going to cause more headaches for themselves. There are a lot of positives to DD, like the play while it downloads and offering of free-to-play games. Cheap sales will also "hopefully" come out of this, but the reaction is definitely hilarious.
As I said, PC gamers have been use to this for years, and it is no surprise that Microsoft and Sony have seen how much dosh Valve makes on a market like Steam, so why not copy them?
Lion Heart
Banned
No sale.
Chezzymann
Member
Why is 24 hours bad? I cannot think of a situation where your internet would be off for longer than 24 hours besides when you're moving to a new house or your power was knocked out by a hurricane. Essentially it is the same system as steam only with a few improvements regarding trading.
10 Family members, not friends.
they wont be able to de-activate your copy of game if there is no internet check, so Sony cant be doing the same thing for sure.
Only reason internet activation exist is to check for you trading the game or sharing it, and then disabling it on your console.
maquiladora
Member
I know right. Like, even if it's true, it would only be a matter of time until they end this feature.
There will have to be some way of checking that they are family members.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
The game sharing with ten family members will be locked to one or two systems. I guarantee it.
Q
qizah
Unconfirmed Member
It's like Microsoft is purposely trying to make this a snowball effect of negativity.
Fox Mulder
Member
Fuck both of these companies if they think passing the blame on publishers will make me accept bullshit DRM. Every publisher will choose to block used games, because why not.
I won't buy either console and hope a crash happens.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Are you high? You think MS will let 10 people play one copy of a game? I'll tell you exactly how this will work:
- Billy and Bobby are brothers. They share an Xbox One but both have separate accounts, because they have different friends/achievements, etc.
- Billy buys a game and installs in on the Xbone, now Bobby can play it on his account too!
- And even when Bobby goes over to his friends house he can log into his account and play Billy's game.
That's about it.
Publishers 1, Consumer rights 0
Very little is different here from the details that caused an uproar over the last few weeks/months. Microsoft mostly confirmed what was suspected/already stated, and since the used game details are still full of holes, thinking they might be better than expected may be a might premature.
Very little is different here from the details that caused an uproar over the last few weeks/months. Microsoft mostly confirmed what was suspected/already stated, and since the used game details are still full of holes, thinking they might be better than expected may be a might premature.
Swings and roundabouts. Steam doesn't let you do jack shit with your games once you've bought them.
Nobody knows. One side will say "HAH! M$ are evil and you loose everything." On the other side you could have MS dropping the DRM checking of titles 1 or 2 years after they launch. You still have the disc, so you would be able to play with no issues.
Maybe just consoles on the same network
OR
Like Xbox Live Family, any under 16 accounts attached to a parents account.
Once you hit 16, GROW UP AND GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
notoccupanther
Member
#DealWithIt
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
If you really can share games with 10 people this system will sell itself in America once that news comes out.
WHOAguitarninja
Member
The participating retailers part is pretty crappy. The 10 family members on any console is pretty neat though. Especially if they can play simultaneously.
maabus1999
Member
Yeah I thought about that. I think gamefly will end up making a deal with publishers like Redbox has for Blu-Rays with the "rental only/restricted features" movies I run across all the time. Setting up a system with rental only discs wouldn't take long for gamefly and redbox to use (and redbox is already amiable to doing this).
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
This does answer a few questions that I had, split-screen is in since if your account is on the X1 at the time then the other accounts can play it as well. You can bring games to firend's houses, just sign into their X1 and there you go.
Again, the used game things sounds similar to Sony's "Publishers decide".
Again, the used game things sounds similar to Sony's "Publishers decide".
11/10
rohlfinator
Member
Most likely, and if it's not blocked completely I wouldn't be surprised to see bans going out for people who have "family members" connecting from 10 different places.
Krusenstern
Banned
I have no words.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I'm starting to see a trend here. Most of the people that have said "this doesn't sound so bad" have a only on xbox avatar or is a junior. How the fuck can this be supported? When I read "publishers can enable you to sell your games" my eyes almost rolled to the back of my head. It would suck buying a game you don't enjoy at all and have to deal with it.
Flatline
Banned
Yes, I'm worried about small independent stores that sell used games. I buy many of my games used from a local game store that has 3 stores/chains in the city. They are great because they are constantly adjusting the prices of their used (and new) games, unlike Gamestop. (They seem to put a used price on a game and leave it like that for a year). I would hate to see the XBox One hurt their business.
*nods
Why should I have to jump through so many fucking hoops and check in with big daddy just to play a game? You can't even causally rent one you might be interested in buying or you can't even loan a game to a friend. You can only opt to give it to them... only if they are verified. Get the hell out of here with this shit. Seeing our hobby being reduced to this is beyond sad. Nowhere else is your property controlled and dictated to such a degree.
I've noticed this numerous times in this thread, not sure what to make of it other than there will be a defense force for pretty much anything.
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