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Sony E3 press conference; June 10th 6PM PT/9PM ET
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No, they haven't. They can drop Wii U because they're not going to make money on it. They need PS4.
IonicSnake
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I was thinking about the EA/MS deal.
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Yup. They need the PS4 to be able to sustain all these AAA games.
zeopower6
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Well, remember they're all on board for the PS4.
It's just a matter of when they announce games. Probably TGS with some at E3?
Isn't Level-5 going to be working on something for the PS4?
EA dropping MS?
None of the major publishers are going to drop either of the HDer Twins. MS is still going to be huge in the US, Sony is going to dominate in Japan, and they'll battle it out in Europe. Everyone has to be on both.
This deal between MS and EA isn't going to hurt Sony's relationship with EA. Sony are still getting all the established sellers.
IonicSnake
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Not dropping MS entierly but deals like the exclusive Fifa stuff and Titan would most likely sieze if consumers drops the Xbox One and go for the PS4.
Because then it doesn't have to be Tuesday morning.
TitanFall seems like it might be timed exclusive. They just said that they're focusing on XBO and PC right now but their phrasing seemed very careful to not rule out possibly hitting PS4 later on. Exclusive DLC will last for as long as the contract goes for. EA's not a company that'll be a long time friend. They're purely interested in their bottom line and do whatever they feel suits them best.
Japan has been fairly quiet about all of this in general so far, but companies like Capcom, Konami, Square announce at the big shows. Major japanese heavy franchises are usually tied to TGS.
seventynine
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Sorry I'm still waking up :/.
What I was getting at was if sales of the Xbox One are impacted by all this staggering negativity will the 'special relationship' between EA and Microsoft simply be downgraded? e.i. will the various deals in exclusive DLC be dissolved and will they treat the two consoles equally?
Titan matters, but the little extras aren't going to make any difference. Sony had exclusive stuff in RDR, LA Noire and Mafia 2, most people don't even know, let alone care, it certainly didn't help sales. MS could keep those things regardless of it's market performance if they want it. Titan is an unusual deal, it makes sense to lock down the team that made CoD4 of course, but the cost must be insane. If it locks the West into thinking of it as the bro multiplayer platform, it'll be worth it though. Push an early installbase and get people into the infrastructure, and it'll be the platform of choice for multiplatform releases, regardless of performance shortcomings.
Who knows, maybe the rumors are true and MS has Mirror's Edge 2, and the next Dragon Age, etc, but I doubt it. I think Titan is a very costly one off.
CBOaT said that TitanFall was the only EA exclusive and has said it may just be timed.
It would be pretty awesome if they went all out on the PS nostalgia with FF and MGS at the conference.
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Unless you live in Europe. Because then it is Tuesday morning.
IonicSnake
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I agree with both of you, maybe dropping support was wrong choice of words, I guess RoboPlato said what I was trying to say best "They're purely interested in their bottom line and do whatever they feel suits them best.". So if these deals doesn't do anything for EA and people are going to the PS4 over the Xbox One I can definitely see EA stop doing these kinds of deals with MS. Right now though they seem to be pretty tight.
Sidewinder
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Titan is a 1 year Xbone exclusive according to cboat
zeopower6
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But in LA, it'd be Monday evening and not Tuesday morning. You can't account for everyone, unfortunately.
Whaaaaat
Anticitizen One
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EA will drop Microsoft like a bad conversation if ps4 takes the lead
Companies go after the money not any loyalty
True... but in the past Sony used to go Tuesday morning and it would cut into the actual E3 show floor time.
zeopower6
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Seems like they'd have to extend return policies for games that would have something like that on them... what if you despise the game after a few days with it?
When you say they are definitely in that mindset is this based off of things you've been hearing from within?
Would be awesome if Sony tried to bring back the PS1 and PS2 days!
Mikey Jr.
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So hold onto the game for 30 days and then return it.
There has to be some DRM. That is just the fact of the matter. If people think there won't be any, then they are living in la-la land.
Pound_lb003
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You know that Fifa exclusive content will be some Kinect/smartglass integration.
Yeah, definitely.
Napalm_Frank
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''You gettu me Christianu Burairu to pray Ocelot, THEN we can talk about PS4''
i think from what I read the Fifa "exclusive" is some kind of card game or something.
l3lacklvlagic
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Isn't Ground Zeros like a prologue to MGS 5? If so, I bet Sony will lock that up, So PS4 is the place to go for the true MGS 5 experience.
-Plasma Reus-
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MGS live action movie details/announcement at Sony press conference.
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
It's not even the card game itself, just content for it.
Hopefully moreso like PS1 when Sony acted like they had something to prove. Also Square could do no wrong in the PS1 era.
Anticitizen One
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The only reason ps3 flopped is because Sony hired a real shithead CEO who fucked everything up for the company. Now that he is gone and Kaz is in charge expect Sony to go back to normal.
Callibretto
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japanese games will come. they need ps4 to be a success if they ever want to make games for console again, and they still have reason why to make games for console, because western gaming market outside of mobile games are largely centered on console.
Not only that but the design of the hardware itself didn't help...
Finally I've caught up with the thread...after being stuck at page 122 several days ago....And now I will be off to bed...
Its funny how the encroaching date and deafening silence from Sony has on fans. People go from extreme hype and excitement to nervousness, anxiety, and pessimism. Its like the pressure of E3 drives some folks mad. Its kinda funny to watch. I'll just say keep your head up. Be excited, but be reasonable.
Whether Sony "wins" E3 or not, whether they reveal everything when you want them to or not, we can be confident that we will have plenty of games. Anyone can secure 3rd parties for their presentation, but whether it leaks or whatever...what matters is the bottom line. Are the games there? Are the games coming? And Sony's spent the last generation proving that they're about games.
Its funny how the encroaching date and deafening silence from Sony has on fans. People go from extreme hype and excitement to nervousness, anxiety, and pessimism. Its like the pressure of E3 drives some folks mad. Its kinda funny to watch. I'll just say keep your head up. Be excited, but be reasonable.
Whether Sony "wins" E3 or not, whether they reveal everything when you want them to or not, we can be confident that we will have plenty of games. Anyone can secure 3rd parties for their presentation, but whether it leaks or whatever...what matters is the bottom line. Are the games there? Are the games coming? And Sony's spent the last generation proving that they're about games.
boredandlazy
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Uh... Hell No.
Without Blu-Ray fantastic games like God of War 3, the Uncharted series and Metal Gear Solid 4 etc. would just not have been the same.
If Sony had used DVD in their console we'd still be watching shitty SD movies on our HDTV's.
The PS3 is the main reason Blu-Ray won the format war, and thank fucking god for that.
People may talk about how much the PS3 lost for Sony, but they forget that using it as the Trojan Horse for Blu-Ray made it money in a lot of other business areas.
Basically this at the time HD DVD's were a real contender during the disk war the main reason blu ray won is due to it being included in the PS3 which if i remember correctly even at $600 was still cheaper then a regular one.
Those three games are all incredibly linear, and could have obviously shipped on DVDs. MGS4 even has install pauses for minutes every chapter, massively longer than the time it takes to change a disc.
Ultimately, it doesn't really matter, BluRay won the format war, and partially due to PS3, so Sony will always profit from that, long term it might not have been a mistake for Sony, but it is the reason PS3 hugely underperformed.
-Plasma Reus-
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Wasn't the cell a bigger reason for the price point than the inclusion of a BD Drive?
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The problem was the price and lackluster lineup until the PS3 slim (there were good titles but nothing to make the many people go crazy for it).
PS2 had wonderful early releases like FFX, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, DMC, GT3, etc.
Hopefully PS4 can do that. It doesn't need to be exactly like the PS2 launch but early blockbusters (like having FFXV next year).
PS2 had wonderful early releases like FFX, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, DMC, GT3, etc.
Hopefully PS4 can do that. It doesn't need to be exactly like the PS2 launch but early blockbusters (like having FFXV next year).
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