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Sony E3 press conference; June 10th 6PM PT/9PM ET

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Sorc3r3r

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perfect. exactly what i was hoping for/expecting.

I will be getting PS+ anyways though, they absolutely killed it with the value of PS+ this gen.


I'm a ps+ subber too it has been great, but really it's my choice to pay for that service.
But forcing someone to pay to play online where the online part of the games is becoming more and more substantial is so much against my idea of customer care i cant express.

Grab customers by offering great service for a great price.
 

Ashes

Banned
Are you people serious? $30 a year is dirt cheap. The problem is selling it to possible 360 owners looking to switch. And if it's $100 with unlimited streaming of PS1 and PS2 games, I'm in.

Dude, it's the principle of it as much as anything. We don't pay it on pc. We don't pay it on ps3. We don't pay it on ps vita. We don't pay on Steam. We don't pay it on android devices, nor ios. nor on wii, wiiu, ds, 3ds, etc etc etc.

I don't mind paying extra for things such as ps+ or gakai. But not where it robs us of half the game if we don't pay microsoft and sony extra.
 
Still sucks we need to be on a roller coaster of emotions with this ominous dark cloud over what's supposed to be the best gaming time of the year.

Yep.
This is why I kinda wish Sony would make everything clear before e3, even if it's bad news. I'd rather not wait til e3 to just be disappointed.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Why would picture and video uploading be behind a paywall? It's a button on the controller, man. That's pretty fucked up.
 
Based on what Kagari is saying I think it will probably end up like this:

399$/499$ SKUs (premium model with camera and bigger hard drive).
Basic online functionalities still free.
Plus+many new extra features (cross game chat, video recording,etc) at 60$
Plus+ Gaikai streaming for 90$

That would be better, depends on the HD sizes though.
 

netBuff

Member
While I don't like paying for basic online and think it's very harmful to maintain stable online populations in less popular games, at least the price levels quoted would have been fair enough.
 

Nakazato

Member
I hope sony would reward current psn+ ppl like if you have psn plus before the launch of ps4 you will be grandfathered in to the 3 teir pack so instead of paying 100 a year for game. Stream you pay 50 until you lapse.
 
cross game chat behind a paywall fucking sucks

I don't believe that will happen to be honest. It's free on Vita and with the latest Skype app update on the Vita you can even use that to chat with anyone on any device using Skype while you're playing games on your Vita.
 

artist

Banned
Where did the no DRM come from? I dont see thuway mentioning it but the thread title of that closed thread said "DRM left to pubs"

Can some one clarify?
 

Hazanko

Banned
I'm willing to pay if it's worth it, like playstation plus but will not pay just to use online, it also sucks for those free MMO games that are coming to it, DCUO is free to play and you don't need to pay online for PS3, now if you do for PS4, then what incentive is there to buy a PS4 and not just stick to PS3, and I'm sure many of the free players wouldn't bother.

It may get them more revenue but many, like myself wouldn't pay if they do it like that. It's not about being poor, it's about paying for something that I shouldn't have to. The people that say "well it's dirt cheap", miss that point.
 

macewank

Member
so here's my question.

we've got PS+ tier for 60 a year and then this Gaikai thing for 100 a year.

Is the plan for the Gaikai thing to be like.... a Playstation version of Spotify for games? For $100/yr you can stream any content off of the Gaikai system? If so, that price becomes a lot less bad.
 

tusken77

Member
Does anyone know what the sound of 2500 jaws hitting the floor at the same time sounds like?

You soon will.

Jim-Carey_Excited.gif
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Would "streaming" include local screenshot/video capture? That would be annoying if charged for, but as long as online is free then I'm happy.

I suspect screenshots will be a basic OS function but for the right price, Streaming and other amenities might be enticing.

With how much Sony are pushing f2p, I surely do hope online is still free (which is seems to be).
 

netBuff

Member
Where did the no DRM come from? I dont see thuway mentioning it but the thread title of that closed thread said "DRM left to pubs"

Can some one clarify?

It's the same thing we've heard all along: My impression is that at this point no one can definitively say what policy Sony will side with at the end.
 
Why would picture and video uploading be behind a paywall? It's a button on the controller, man. That's pretty fucked up.

Probably uploading them to official sony servers or actual streaming like with ustream is paid. You can probably save your videos to usb and edit on pc later or upload directly to youtube.
 

GopherD

Member
What the hell? I leave for 15 minutes and you brought the place down already, Bird?

A man, both wise and weathered, stood up in front of you all and said...

"Let nothing come between the platform and the joy of play"
 

pauljeremiah

Gold Member
How much a megaton would it be if Gaben appears on the Sony stage again, and announces that TF2 and DOTA2 are coming to PS4, free-to-play and will have full steamworks support.
 

razielim

Member
If online play and apps (Netflix etc) aren't behind a paywall I'm feeling better about this. I just can't believe having to pay to use services that I already pay for via subscription. I'm cool with the way PS+ and the rumored streaming/sharing are as those are added features rather than basic functionality that has always been free.
 
Where did the no DRM come from? I dont see thuway mentioning it but the thread title of that closed thread said "DRM left to pubs"

Can some one clarify?

Right sorry, I missed the quote - he just stated DRM is a real thing and is up to publishers.
But seeing as he was working on old info it doesn't mean much either way.
 

Interfectum

Member
What the hell? I leave for 15 minutes and you brought the place down already, Bird?

A man, both wise and weathered, stood up in front of you all and said...

"Let nothing come between the platform and the joy of play"

Free online confirmed by the gopher.
 

zeopower6

Member
What the hell? I leave for 15 minutes and you brought the place down already, Bird?

A man, both wise and weathered, stood up in front of you all and said...

"Let nothing come between the platform and the joy of play"

The gopher always knows best.
 

daebo

Member
If Thuway is still around, where did the pricing tiers come from? That wasn't in the kotoku piece and the DRM up to pubs?

You gave additional info - be curious if you are recanting that as well?

as for the thoughts of how can you play f2p if behind paywall? Is MS doing that with some of their F2P (rumored) games? It's still feasible. It sucks, but feasible.
 
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