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TEH FIANAL LOVDOWN. shufflemoveto the infooplace!

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Think about the big picture guys:

"Owning" the living rooms of America is not just about putting a box servicing their products in every household.

Its about establishing themselves as gate-keeper ahead of all other services, both gaming and entertainment, so that everything is funnelled through their system.

Xbone is pitched as a convergence device, when its actually the perfect choke-point to exert control over all their competitors. Xbone sits ahead of the cable providers boxes, it doesn't filter through them, they pass their product through it. So if they want to mux in system messages or advertising, what's stopping them?

In a broad programming sense they also get to prioritize their offerings in a preferential way over whatever is being fed via the HDMI-in. Given how critical visibility is in these sort of services thats another hefty advantage they get to keep for themselves.

Gaming is just a piece of the pie. This is so much bigger than just that, its actually pretty brilliant in a Machiavellian sort-of-way.
 
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MercuryLS

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maltrain said:
FUCK EA, FUCK UBISOFT, FUCK ACTIVISION.

Period.
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Activision didn't push for this, they haven't introduced any DRM stuff this gen. They're probably smart enough to realize that used game trade-ins helps people buy COD titles and they're less worried about their own games being sold/traded-in due to longtail DLC map packs.
 
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Goldmund

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MercuryLS said:
Activision didn't push for this, they haven't introduced any DRM stuff this gen. They're probably smart enough to realize that used game trade-ins helps people buy COD titles and they're less worried about their own games being sold/traded-in due to longtail DLC map packs.
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Yeah, it's surprising, but Activision seems to be more concerned about their public image than the other big publishers, as of late.
 
Evolved1

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make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Even on a damn phone if you cancel your subscription/service... at least the games and aps you bought on it still work.

This is the slimiest thing...
 
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Into

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XenoRaven said:
I know we're over 2,500 posts in, but I just wanted to say that I love the Al Snow comparison.
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What does everybody want!??? DUG DUG DUG DUG WHAT DOES EVERYBODY NEEEEED!? DUG DUG DUG DUG

Its probably Alex Navarro of Gamespot and Giant Bomb fan, he is the only gaming journalist that still seems like he gives a shit about raslin'
 
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THE:MILKMAN

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I half jokingly said it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft made Gold mandatory a couple of days ago.

Can't believe it actually might happen.
 
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shinra-bansho

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Hmm, it's actually plausible on further reflection, if they intend to keep pushing this "all our games are running on the power of the cloud" bullshit.

All the games require online.

Online requires a subscription on the Xbox.

All games require a subscription - otherwise they won't run without all that infinite cloud power, even if they're single player.

?
 
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BronsonLee

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Into said:
What does everybody want!??? DUG DUG DUG DUG WHAT DOES EVERYBODY NEEEEED!? DUG DUG DUG DUG

Its probably Alex Navarro of Gamespot and Giant Bomb fan, he is the only gaming journalist that still seems like he gives a shit about raslin'
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NO STOP DIGGING CBOAT IS THE HERO WE NEED *tackle!*
 
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ido

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Requiring Gold is the next logical step in Microsoft's playbook.

So basically, you are just renting your games. They are all disposable.
 
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Ricko Suave

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crazy buttocks on a train said:
^_^ confiemed micresft actively attemptbuyinr PS44FOUR nonmetnions. IF y dont explifitly here 3rdparty say “OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE’ confdinetly assuem Ps4 version is avabilelbe behind scenes. #truthfact

^_^ stag2 indethpth drm mesaging a@t gamescom. rental stretegy is no stratgy, nolpan for support, just watnt o keep quiet. nontalk execs! beacuse mesaging isnt done. stagae1 waslast Tursyfday...clusterfuktotal

^_^ cloudpower=praroleofficer. desined from day1@s DRM. peirod. uknoo this alreyad thogh.,, MS idaea. aproached third parties wplan not otherway around. EA/Ubi bigest boostrs but lesa Activbliz whcih makes mye haed fulll of weird#!

^_^ ONE drm tos plans iws worse than you know. asmnow btw but I can;t get cororobating proof frrorm my fpeoples. theyr sadcared for jobs. it s com*ing tho IT IS COMING ):

^_^ MEedge2 at MS conf. langlewdell not mkaign an appearnce.

^_^ princeofpersian retgurgiate. for msfconf

^_^ sspecial sekrit Philupspensergame/? - world of banks frmo warmggamin.et

^_^ LIVEpaywallfirm like myb utocks in place for ONEE!1 f2p? sorury.

^_^ deadreising3 and exclcusive DLC for other capcpom game

^_^ onlingamingpayo.w.-allklk for Sony? ahha nope.noconfirm

^_^ sonty rapped up tighterrea than Virgin mosquito when on drm istuf. Frustartin!g myinfogloves!

Fianl things bef0re I hbieranate onte.h sleptime for ahwile.

1. aAll praisee neogaf
2. athanku alLL doubtersn ivirals, youre bitter tearzr are my bidet
3. be nice to mrajor nelson, he has ijob to do. like al snow
4. my balls, my wordd

cya
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no nintendo
 
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NullPointer

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Clear said:
Its about establishing themselves as gate-keeper ahead of all other services, both gaming and entertainment, so that everything is funnelled through their system.
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A toll-booth for every road.

A middle-man for every transaction.

And for every ad, another ad.
 
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mrklaw

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Clear said:
Think about the big picture guys:

"Owning" the living rooms of America is not just about putting a box servicing their products in every household.

Its about establishing themselves as gate-keeper ahead of all other services, both gaming and entertainment, so that everything is funnelled through their system.

Xbone is pitched as a convergence device, when its actually the perfect choke-point to exert control over all their competitors. Xbone sits ahead of the cable providers boxes, it doesn't filter through them, they pass their product through it. So if they want to mux in system messages or advertising, what's stopping them?

In a broad programming sense they also get to prioritize their offerings in a preferential way over whatever is being fed via the HDMI-in. Given how critical visibility is in these sort of services thats another hefty advantage they get to keep for themselves.

Gaming is just a piece of the pie. This is so much bigger than just that, its actually pretty brilliant in a Machiavellian sort-of-way.
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sure, but havne't they been trying to do this for a decade? Web TV for instance, remember that?
 
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Tamanon

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Goldmund said:
Yeah, it's surprising, but Activision seems to be more concerned about their public image than the other big publishers, as of late.
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To be fair,most of the negative stuff people hate about Activision is in how they treat their studios. They tend to do as right as possible for the customers themselves.
 
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Cerebral Assassin

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Killing_Joke said:
Do people really believe it will sell no matter what?
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They have already started running adverts alongside the biggest franchise in Games, do people actually expect it not to sell?

catfish said:
what a shit post. the red ring thing was an unfortunate production issue. It was sucky, but not some dirty asshole manoeuvre by MS.
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True, but their handling of the RRoD was dirty & assholish(they repeatedly tried to claim that there wasn't an issue).
 
theDeeDubs

theDeeDubs

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Now I'm going to be nervous during every game reveal hoping to not hear the words "exclusive to XB1". If they get ME2, DR3, and PoP, they got me :(. The last two are in my top 10 IP.
 
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bebop242 said:
in what instance did gamers prove they don't fall for bullshit?
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PS3 - $599 PS3 was almost a dead system but Sony did a great job at re-branding the system. No one fell for Cell or the RSX. Everyone saw Sony as arrogant thinking it will be a huge success regardless the price.

Wii U - How do you go from 100mil to a complete flop? Gamers want a next gen system with next gen games. Nintendo went for the casual crowd and they didn't bite either

Vita- Great system, complete flop. Why? who knows, I assume it's the price and the stupid memory cards. Plus Sony is doing a horrible job at marketing. Where's the games?

and if you want to get old school just look at the 32x, SEGA CD, Jaguar, Saturn, Virtual boy, etc etc
 
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Plinko said:
Which, to me, is the most shocking thing of all.
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Eh. It has been a while but I don't remember Activision being as bad with the online passes as Ubi and EA. Not that it matters since there is other reasons to hate them but just not that.
 
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JakkuFurosu

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Killing_Joke said:
PS3 - $599 PS3 was almost a dead system but Sony did a great job at re-branding the system. No one fell for Cell or the RSX. Everyone saw Sony as arrogant thinking it will be a huge success regardless the price.

Wii U - How do you go from 100mil to a complete flop? Gamers want a next gen system with next gen games. Nintendo went for the casual crowd and they didn't bite either

Vita- Great system, complete flop. Why? who knows, I assume it's the price and the stupid memory cards. Plus Sony is doing a horrible job at marketing. Where's the games?

and if you want to get old school just look at the 32x, SEGA CD, Jaguar, Saturn, Virtual boy, etc etc
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I agree with this overall...

My only fear is the Microsham marketing force....they can dump alot more money to make this successful compared to the other guys
 
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quest

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jimbor said:
It's Joe Public that worries me.
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It should not worry you. The public does the right thing a lot especially when it comes to physical ownership. Here is the reaction of the general public about no rentals.

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mi...orum-page-to-discuss-the-future-of-used-games

http://gamingfuture.net/ This is the site redbox left for comments about no rentals and internet required/24 hour check in. People are pissed about all of this because if affects them a lot.
 
Evolved1

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
mclem said:
Burning question for me: If gold *is* required, then what is silver?
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Silver is the installer.

It's also for TV. Silver signifies all the grey haired people who actually still watch live TV.
 
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quest

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JakkuFurosu said:
I agree with this overall...

My only fear is the Microsham marketing force....they can dump alot more money to make this successful compared to the other guys
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Yet again for every Kinect 1.0 there is W8/WP7/8/Kin/Zune. MS has not been able to buy its way to success in a while.
 
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Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Too bad, the most important question for me wasn't answered: What's the Rare game? Will I be a broken man this evening (Banjo 3 gets announced) or will I be able to keep my sanity?
 
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Mael

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Raxus said:
Eh. It has been a while but I don't remember Activision being as bad with the online passes as Ubi and EA. Not that it matters since there is other reasons to hate them but just not that.
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Actually there's only how they say they treat their employees.
As far as product goes, they tend to be a bit milky but in the end you always know what you're getting at least, no strings attached.
And considering how Blizzard operate, Diablo 3 would have ended up better if Activision was handling the product...
 
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Hey, could we stop trying to figure out who CBOAT is? I mean, damn yall, Batman saves your town and all you want to do is rip the mask off?
 
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