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Sony Won E3 (But That Doesnt Matter)
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Ploid 3.0
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No, sony isn't delaying it's ability to go all digital, it's just giving a option to buy disks that last. Sony too have a digital day one thing going on. PS3 probably has it too. There was a digital Playstation All Stars at launch of the disk. Sony is just thinking sane. Heck sony tried all digital, which is pretty much what MS is doing now, you just have the option to bypass the download process by buying a disk.
The sinker with MS' plan is that for some stupid or clever reason they get you to think you have a 24hr online check because they are thinking for the future with family plan. They say the 24hr check is to update your game list but I doubt that, it's either for kinect to upload data it collected which could be stored in that 3 gig of memory somewhere, or/and to slow down piracy. It can also update your game list.
The sinker with MS' plan is that for some stupid or clever reason they get you to think you have a 24hr online check because they are thinking for the future with family plan. They say the 24hr check is to update your game list but I doubt that, it's either for kinect to upload data it collected which could be stored in that 3 gig of memory somewhere, or/and to slow down piracy. It can also update your game list.
Sony won because Microsoft went crazy and Sony helped everyone laugh at them. I thought both of them were boring outside the drm and used games jokes.
Nintendo said screw it, told use about everything before E3 and made you wait in lines at Best Buy for 3 hours to play ther games.
Nintendo said screw it, told use about everything before E3 and made you wait in lines at Best Buy for 3 hours to play ther games.
Luckily Ps vita is doing great.
http://techland.time.com/2012/09/27...wnloads-how-much-longer-until-retails-demise/
Look at the date, Wired. Look at the date.
Look at the date, Wired. Look at the date.
Red Chocobo
Banned
Sony believe in choice.
And so do I.
And so do I.
Yeah, forcing digital probably won't work - they tried it a little while ago and got burned pretty bad. Let it happen naturally, by providing both options but incentivizing digital copies (ie, make them cheaper).
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Deleted member 8095
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I wish I could combine the two. Love the no blocking used games and the no DRM thing but MS showed more interesting and new games at their conference.
zomgbbqftw
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Call me crazy, but right now Sony seems leaps and bounds ahead of Microsoft with their digital distribution strategy. Games come out day one digital on PSN all the time, there's great seasonal sales, and oh yeah PS+.
I get where Chris is coming from with the disc thing, but I think if the industry had to go all digital tomorrow I think Sony would be better prepared. They just don't think right now is the time.
I get where Chris is coming from with the disc thing, but I think if the industry had to go all digital tomorrow I think Sony would be better prepared. They just don't think right now is the time.
brandonh83
Banned
Yeah. Always so dire. Doomsday prophets are fucking annoying.
No snark here but... which games are you talking about? The one that stands out for me is Insomniac's game - but that's it. But maybe I am just forgetting.
the nightman cometh
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I think it is partially Microsoft's reaction to splintering the Xbox 360s audience with the hard drive and Kinect issues they had. Make online and Kinect mandatory and they have a single group to sell to.
Unfortunately for them it may have caused a worse backlash than expected because they didn't explain the benefits of making them mandatory.... if there are any
Unfortunately for them it may have caused a worse backlash than expected because they didn't explain the benefits of making them mandatory.... if there are any
brandonh83
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This is what I get out of it. I don't see any championing going on or whatever. They're probably very very happy with the feedback but there's a long way to go.
Sony doesn't seem to be underestimating Microsoft. Despite the negativity the Xbox One will do very well. A lot of people will adapt to the policies and just simply roll with it as time goes.
I hate this idea that you have to go all physical or all digital. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. Look at the Vita. Everything that comes out physical also comes out digital. If you WANT to go all digital and get the benefits that a digital only library brings, YOU CAN! That doesn't mean you have to shut out the people who enjoy physical games' own advantages. In a perfect world, there's both. It's that way with books. It's that way with music. It's that way with movies. Let us choose how we want to build our collection, don't force us into digital.
GoofsterStud
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Microsoft is the one saying the PS4 is not a threat...not Sony.
And that is relevant why?
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Also, the idea that Sony is some how delaying some inevitable all digital future is laughable. There is nothing stopping physical and digital releases from coexisting aside from corporate greed.
I totally agree, but remember that Sony owns 14 first-party studios and Sony has said every one of them is working on a PS4 game. Things might not look amazing now, but give the PS4 some time and there will be plenty of exclusives to get excited about.
This is a poor argument. In Sony's E3 conference they said that over 60% of all Vita game sales were digital downloads.
I am almost 100% DD on my Vita and will likely buy a lot of DD games on PS4 particularly due to the fact that the system can play games while downloading and will predownload games it thinks you may wish to purchase and all the great PS+ sales.
Sony is doing DD on consoles the right way and they have a great vision for how DD should work in this space. MS and Nintendo are way behind Sony in this regard.
I am almost 100% DD on my Vita and will likely buy a lot of DD games on PS4 particularly due to the fact that the system can play games while downloading and will predownload games it thinks you may wish to purchase and all the great PS+ sales.
Sony is doing DD on consoles the right way and they have a great vision for how DD should work in this space. MS and Nintendo are way behind Sony in this regard.
WrenchNinja
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Why is he acting like you can't go digital with PS4?
Great article and sums up how I feel things will go down eventually. MS just took the leap first. They will take their bumps and bruises but will adjust IMO as they will have to. I do believe that this industry is going down this path, kicking and screaming for some. I think being forced to go digitlal though is wrong and they need to adjust their strategy with this quickly.
Meh... Sony has had digital downloads as an option for quite some time along with being miles ahead of the DD future with PS+
MS is dipping their toes by forcing the consumer's hand.
I'll take Sony's strategy of selling options that are actually worthwhile over MS's strategy of forced DRM.
Night/day difference between the two. Its MS who is behind with their DD strategy. Anyone can see this plain as day. What an idiotic article.
MS is dipping their toes by forcing the consumer's hand.
I'll take Sony's strategy of selling options that are actually worthwhile over MS's strategy of forced DRM.
Night/day difference between the two. Its MS who is behind with their DD strategy. Anyone can see this plain as day. What an idiotic article.
dragonbane
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You can go all digital on PS4 too.
Ploid 3.0
Member
I think sony just has better experience with selling media. They sell music and movies, and both music CDs and movie blu rays still sell even though there's digital options that are far beter than xbl or psn. The smaller size of the files should have made the physical format in music and movies obsolete but they are still around.
More like Magnavox Odyssey's steps. Nintendo didn't set any trend, and Sony shouldn't exactly be praised for sticking to the formula that has been set in place for eight generations of console gaming.
The only one that should be downplayed is the Xbone which is changing the way eight generations of console gaming has been. I still think Microsoft is capable of making the changes by launch. They could completely sweep the floor and change things by removing whatever BS DRM they have on the system and stop the madness. I don't think a company is stupid enough to move forward with their plans after so much negative press and reception.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Love all the journos that can't bare to see the Sony buzz around and need to trample all over it. Its sad.
yeah thats the big issue here
sony gives the consumer an option of physical or dd
ms is forcing dd, even when you buy a physical disc
SolidSnakex
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Sony took the leap a long time ago. They've been Day 1 digital for quite awhile on the PS3, and the Vita has been like that since it was released. They're just simply giving players the option of going digital or continuing to purchase at retail.
CouldBeWorse
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I think everything Chris said was completely reasonable. And it showed more realistic forward-thinking than most of us are doing with our emotional reactions.
It's like the Xbox and DC in some ways - MS is just a little too early to the party.
It's like the Xbox and DC in some ways - MS is just a little too early to the party.
there is no long game no more. technology moves too fast now. apple and google are destroying them on mobile up to the point where its embarrassing. windows 8 was dumb and tryed to trojan horse metro when no one wanted it. xbox one is just a giant box of spyware. ms is just absolutely lost when it comes to consumer electronics.
JetBlackPanda
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I just had someone come up to me at work and go on and on about the Xbox being the future the PS4 being designed for the past thanks to this Wired article.
yipee the PR push is working.
so stupid.
yipee the PR push is working.
so stupid.
They are delaying an all digital console which IMO is inevitable.
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Personally I don't remember seeing anything at Microsoft's conference that stood out. I don't even remember being interested in anything. I went in with an open mind, too, so it wasn't just me ignoring anything good because I wanted to hate. I was literally looking for reasons NOT to hate during that conference.
At least 3DS is.
dragonbane
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Of course it is going down this path. You can go all digital on PS4 too. Eventually everything will become only digital, I'm sure of it.
However, Sony gives you both options, while MS is more forcing it. The thing with discs tying to your account is rather convoluted and confusing. I think the transition is going to happen more naturally.
MikeE21286
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Can't say I agree. Focus is different but the functionality of all digital is still there.
It seems everywhere I look people are trying to forward this Narrative that :
* Microsoft is going for an all digital , Steam like future.
* Sony have screwed themselves by not pushing some sort of dumb ass DRM on its users, and will get left behind while XBO and Steam clean up.
Yet no one can explain to me what exactly Sony have done that will prevent them from having exactly the same sort of pricing as MS for digital content ,if MS does indeed turn XBL into a console Steam.
Certain sites/commentators are definitely pushing the whole "lolsonydontdodigital" BS.
* Microsoft is going for an all digital , Steam like future.
* Sony have screwed themselves by not pushing some sort of dumb ass DRM on its users, and will get left behind while XBO and Steam clean up.
Yet no one can explain to me what exactly Sony have done that will prevent them from having exactly the same sort of pricing as MS for digital content ,if MS does indeed turn XBL into a console Steam.
Certain sites/commentators are definitely pushing the whole "lolsonydontdodigital" BS.
Felix Lighter
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I see Microsoft making an attempt at skipping the early adopters and immediately targeting the general public. Is the general public looking to spend $500 on a streaming box and game console with a tiny library? I think they made a mistake and I think it's wrong to suggest that the early adopter crowd is not really important. The momentum needs to start somewhere.
CambriaRising
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CouldBeWorse
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Do you know anything about Kohler? He's one of the least likely games writers to be in Microsoft's corner.