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MS eliminates its best new feature: 10 person, 60 min Family Sharing plan for Xbone
- Thread starter Horse Armour
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People are failing to mention that family plan was extremely half assed to begin with.
Only two people could play at the same time, and that too only single player game. Want to coop with your sibling who has his/her own xb1? Too bad, buy two copies. I don't see the big loss unless you only play single player.
Only two people could play at the same time, and that too only single player game. Want to coop with your sibling who has his/her own xb1? Too bad, buy two copies. I don't see the big loss unless you only play single player.
not psycho
Member
You can't eliminate a feature that never existed and would never have existed the way they said.
Thread title should be "Microsoft confirms that impossible feature was impossible."
Thread title should be "Microsoft confirms that impossible feature was impossible."
TheChewyWaffles
Member
And your authority in this matter is...what? Why do you know more than MS did lol?
I don't get it either. People are taking the Internet rumors as fact and are acting like you got to share everything in an unlimited manner with 10 people.
I personally feel like they would have added in something like 'for 2 hours a week' or some other restriction. The idea of full game sharing is crazy.
shinobi602
Member
Are we sure it's completely gone? Mark Whitten's words were a little different:
For sure. Now you waste years of refining it to be more consumer friendly.
Bungie
Member
Honestly I might be one of the few but I was fine with DRM if I got those game changing features, we had this gen for like 9 years it feels like, I don't understand why people want it to pretty much be the same but with better looking games & better looking games...to me isn't worth the wait. Seriously that being gone killed a lot of my next-gen hype for Xbox One.
Quit talking nonsense. Nobody here thought what you said.
not psycho
Member
Nobody thought all 10 could play at once, but still the entire plan made no sense. It was essentially Microsoft giving away other publishers games, and then saying "but only if they allow it."
Yeah, I'm sure they would have allowed it.
Andalus0880
Member
Yes.
Moreover, when a company attempts to destroy our collective hobby while simultaneously infringing on our digital/consumer rights, they deserve the backlash.
Abbreviations =/= immature.
Sharing digital downloads one game at a time was a game changer?
Marty Chinn
Member
Nobody thought this.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
This was nothing like the PS3 plan. I swear to God some of you never read past "Share your games with 10 other people..." as if there were zero restrictions on this.
Where are you getting this from? There was a long thread about it and literally nobody thought that.
Free games man, free games!
So true and pathetic.
Paladin CL
Member
I dont care about this feature!
Honestly, the family plan wasn't that great. The only people really hyping it up were Major Nelson (lol) and that Xbox fanboy bgamer90 or whatever his name was.
It was good if you and one other friend wanted to play a single player game at the same time. Funny enough, it sucked when it came to actual immediate family because of the XBL gold requirement.
It was good if you and one other friend wanted to play a single player game at the same time. Funny enough, it sucked when it came to actual immediate family because of the XBL gold requirement.
TheForceWithin
Banned
This. This is the real reason why this feature was dropped. MS was trying too hard to make publishers and the customer happy and upset both at the same time. What a mess.
I think you know I wasn't talking about abbreviations. Not real ones anyway. M$ isn't what I'd call a real abbreviation.
Twilight Gap
Member
Going back to previous policies isn't exactly "next gen". While the previous iteration wasn't exactly convenient for the current market, it pushed the industry where it mattered and it feels like we're regressing when these features are cut. Of course I recognize it had problems, but I think slowing down progress for the first few years of this gen is going to hurt it in the long run. It's likely that they know this too and we'll see these policies pop up again 3 years from now when more people catch up with current technology.
If there's anything they should have changed it's the Kinect spy cam.That's beyond ridiculous.
If there's anything they should have changed it's the Kinect spy cam.That's beyond ridiculous.
Gokurakumaru
Banned
Never forget...
I like how the image depicts you losing access to the game while sharing it as a bad thing. That's how it should work. MS' game sharing system was going to be wide open for abuse and I suspect the only people hyped for it were people who wanted to band together online and do just that. Way worse for the industry than the dreaded "used games" boogeyman.
Xv Elite vX
Banned
No. They could not. Once you install the disk, it becomes digital. I am sure they need more time to rework the system so that the share system can recognize the disk format.
Marty Chinn
Member
What XBL Gold requirement?
The fact that you couldn't do multiplayer is why I think everyone would have been okay with it. Just like you said, it was limited, but that was still good.
I was pretty hyped for it. My brothers both buy games I wouldn't spend money on, yet I dont mind borrowing them from time to time. this feature would have let me do that without having to drive over their place to pick it up, or worse, drive back to their place to give it back.
not sure what you mean by the Gold Requirement limiting access to actual family members. Can you elaborate?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i really didnt think that something like this would fly. microsoft would basically be giving a developer's games out for free with no benefit to them.
of course, we didn't know all the details anyway.
of course, we didn't know all the details anyway.
Bungie
Member
No your whole library to 10 people & yes it does change the way I game with my friends & family. Which is a "game changer" for me maybe you don't see it the benefits like the way I do maybe it's because you don't have any friends or you just don't use Xbox Live or Xbox 360 like I did.
There's a lot of people who loved this feature, so why all the hate on the ones that do, we have a right to complain if we loved it just the way it was. You should have dealt with it not call everyone a shill who defended the Xbox One.
Phawx
Member
The problem with your logic is they had five LOCAL licenses. This is a far cry from a roaming license. Local licenses give FULL use to infinite amount of users on that console.
100% agree. I mean how would publisher be better off with this implementation? that's 10 people that won't buy their game.
My undertstanding is that if you buy the game on disc, it will forever have disc based DRM ie disc has to be in tray to play. If you digitally download then that game is intrinsically attached to your profile and has net based DRM so it can roam with you.
Or am I reading into it incorrectly? Happy to be corrected.
aka in a year or two once they reinstate the DRM they will launch the family plan.
not psycho
Member
Did you read the threads on this topic?
Most people thought it was too good to be true from the beginning. "Too good" meaning that, yes, it was an unbelievably awesome feature. Literally unbelievable.
Most likely the reason things ended up like this is not just because of complaints, but because the original imaginary features were unworkable.
Gokurakumaru
Banned
This is a furphy. Single consoles do not have "infinite" amounts of users using them.
SRTtoZ
Member
Why dont you make your voice heard? MS will listen.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Do you even know what you're trying to say? You sound like that NCIS computer chick trying to explain Xbox One drm.
My authority is my own. I used all the info MS released, what MS has done in the past, the precedent set by PSN game sharing and publishers (plus Sony themselves) restricting it further, and common sense when looking at the fact that the whole point of implementing these DRM restrictions was to make more money, not lose it.
BruiserBear
Banned
Two things here:
1) My head hurts when I see it suggested that multiple people would have been able to play the same game from a family share library. Major Nelson made it very clear this was not possible, and frankly common sense told us all that anyway.
2) It's rather hilarious how fast Microsoft dumped this family plan the moment the online demands were dropped. In other words, it's painfully obvious the family sharing thing only got created to try and justify the online requirements. They could easily still do this with people who buy digitally, but no, they're throwing it away for everyone. Basically taking their digital ball and going home with it.
1) My head hurts when I see it suggested that multiple people would have been able to play the same game from a family share library. Major Nelson made it very clear this was not possible, and frankly common sense told us all that anyway.
2) It's rather hilarious how fast Microsoft dumped this family plan the moment the online demands were dropped. In other words, it's painfully obvious the family sharing thing only got created to try and justify the online requirements. They could easily still do this with people who buy digitally, but no, they're throwing it away for everyone. Basically taking their digital ball and going home with it.
Unless you a publisher of a big time single player game like grand theft auto.
Bungie
Member
Sarcastic or not, I'm way ahead of you.
Pretty sure its not worked like that.
Zoe
Member
No more incentive now that they've "fixed" the problem.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I'll take the no DRM crap over that any day of the week.
Oo ! Oo! Lemme add to this. They coulllldd create a family share game, one where maybe you pay some extra for a couple licenses. How about it Microsoft? You can CREATE VALUE by reducing packaging costs AND saving US money! You're so interested in creating value just do it!
Steam has made bulk purchases.. why don't you?
not psycho
Member
Because there was no family plan.
There was "people are mad about this always online, quick think of something we could use it for that they would like... oh shit, publishers would never in a million years allow us to do this we have to scrap the whole thing."
I thought one of the MS pr guys said everyone in your family circle needed to have XBL Gold to take advantage of the game sharing. I might be mistaken.
Darklurkr23
Neo Member
I'm more pissed they are getting rid of Microsof tPoints. I don't spend money on my gaming i only use free money I get from Bing to transform it into MP or PSN GC w/ trades and Amazon money.
I'm very very veyr pissed that in teh future i'll hav to start spending actual money possibly on my gaming if I Bing drops MP rewards. Let's hope they keep Amazon cash you can at least trade that to people easily
I'm very glad it's back to normal, and if you guys are so pissed about the DRM thing, maybe instead of permanent change they could have a "what style do you want" when 1st start up? HMMM?
I'm very very veyr pissed that in teh future i'll hav to start spending actual money possibly on my gaming if I Bing drops MP rewards. Let's hope they keep Amazon cash you can at least trade that to people easily
I'm very glad it's back to normal, and if you guys are so pissed about the DRM thing, maybe instead of permanent change they could have a "what style do you want" when 1st start up? HMMM?
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