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DirectX 11.2 revealed

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-SD-

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Microsoft showed some DirectX 11.2 stuff at their Build Conference. MS says DX11.2 is for Windows 8.1 and Xbox One only.

Day 1 keynote video: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2013/1-001

DX11.2 Tiled Resources demo starts at the 1-hour mark. TS allows for more detailed surfaces when viewed up close. Works on DX11 cards.

Crappy YT version of Tiled Resources demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EswYdzsHKMc

DX11.2 at MS dev network: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/bg182880.aspx

EDIT:

Massive Virtual Textures for Games: Direct3D Tiled Resources: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2013/4-063
http://video.ch9.ms/sessions/build/2013/4-063.wmv
http://video.ch9.ms/sessions/build/2013/4-063.pptx
http://graphinesoftware.com/Graphine-in-the-Microsoft-build-keynote-and-tiled-resources-talk
 
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Minions

Member
Figures. Microsoft always has been forcing people to upgrade to their "new OS". Many companies are still on XP. Good luck.
 
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Brerlappin

Member
Im sure theres a flood of developers ready to adopt DX11.2 and cut out all those Windows 7 owners in favour of the mountain of Windows 8 gamers out there
 
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Rootbeer

Banned
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7. They even had upgrade licenses for $15 when it first came out. Hard to top that.
 
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Sethos

Banned
Crimson Skies ...

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Cannon Goose

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Zulithe said:
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7.
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Except that Windows 8 still doesn't work with D3DOverrider.

That makes it an awful OS :p
 
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jambo

Member
Zulithe said:
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7.
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I think the issue is Win7 is still a modern OS, used by the majority of PC gamers.

Plus it works with existing hardware so why not software?
 
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CTLance

Member
On the topic of Windows: Win7 is still good enough, I have no reason to "up"grade to 8.

That said, I am not in the least bit surprised about this.
 
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demolitio

Member
Zulithe said:
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7.
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Or it's because they're locking this update behind Windows 8 when it works on existing hardware and then expecting people who are completely content with Windows 7 to upgrade to an OS they don't even want or need.

I don't care that much about this but let's not act like everyone should buy EVERY single Windows release out there because some changes are made. They're keeping this exclusive to Windows 8 for a reason and people can be annoyed with that if they wish. I'm not surprised by this by any means though.
 
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PapaJustify

Member
People don't even bother to have a closer look at Windows 8.1, which in my opinion is a vast improvement.
Some great improvements there.
 
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Brerlappin

Member
Zulithe said:
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7. They even had upgrade licenses for $15 when it first came out. Hard to top that.
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Its a piece of shit that falls over at the drop of a hat. The amount of W8 laptops ive seen in work that have catastrophic OS failures or just refused to boot into the OS is ridiculous.
 
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Horse Armour

Member
Is there any reason apart from driving 8.1 adoption that this isn't coming to Vista/7/8? I thought Vista/7/8 were pretty much technically identical and that the last big change in Windows came with Vista.
 
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PapaJustify

Member
Horse Armour said:
Is there any reason apart from driving 8.1 adoption that this isn't coming to Vista/7/8? I thought Vista/7/8 were pretty much technically identical and that the last big change in Windows came with Vista.
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As for 11.1 the new DirectX version has a lot of improvements for the Apps, which is not relevant prior to Windows 8. And Windows 8 is somewhat technically different than prior versions.
 
Sentenza

Sentenza

Member
-SD- said:
MS says DX11.2 is for Windows 8.1 and Xbox One only.
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In other words they just assured that virtually no developer will actively support the new standard for years to come, as it was with DX 10 at first, during the "Vista exclusivity" age.

Linux raise on the desktop market can't really come fast enough.
 
I'm new be nice

I'm new be nice

Member
It's for this reason that I paid for the 40 dollar upgrade. It's Microsoft's bullshit way of doing business but that's how it is. Until the great Linux distros can rise up and save us I see no way out of this shame spiral...

Edit: Windows 8 is nice though, I don't mind it.
 
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Prophet Steve

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Brerlappin said:
Its a piece of shit that falls over at the drop of a hat. The amount of W8 laptops ive seen in work that have catastrophic OS failures or just refused to boot into the OS is ridiculous.
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That is the first time I have heard that complaint. I don't want to say the OS is flawless, even though I use it and think the reaction is much worse than it should be, but unreliability is not something I have ever heard about Windows 8.

EDIT: Well, except if you are talking about some programs not running, even though I also have not had an issue with that.
 
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PTG

Member
In the youtube clip, the guy doing the presentation said, "This is only possible on a Windows 8.1 machine or a next-gen console like the Xbox One". He never said Xbox One only.
 
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Brerlappin

Member
Prophet Steve said:
That is the first time I have heard that complaint. I don't want to say the OS is flawless, even though I use it and think the reaction is much worse than it should be, but unreliability is not something I have ever heard about Windows 8.

EDIT: Well, except if you are talking about some programs not running, even though I also have not had an issue with that.
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All i know is what vie seen for myself in my job. Had a few W8 laptops, most recently just yesterday, that had boot problems and needed startup repair to be run, i havent seen an OS have so many issues with a boot loader since windows 98. Ive seen brand new W8 laptops straight out of the shop BSOD or have othe errors that are completely unrecoverable from without a reinstall. From what ive seen, i wouldnt trust it as far as i could throw it, which is probably pretty far in fairness.
 
Caayn

Caayn

Member
Zulithe said:
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7. They even had upgrade licenses for $15 when it first came out. Hard to top that.
Click to expand...
Zulithe said:
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7. They even had upgrade licenses for $15 when it first came out. Hard to top that.
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QFT. Happily running W8 since launch. And haven't had a problem since.
 
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JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
PTG said:
In the youtube clip, the guy doing the presentation said, "This is only possible on a Windows 8.1 machine or a next-gen console like the Xbox One". He never said Xbox One only.
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Competing consoles don't use DirectX. That said, OGL has or will have its own equivalent features, anyway.
 
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Monty Mole

Member
Brerlappin said:
Its a piece of shit that falls over at the drop of a hat. The amount of W8 laptops ive seen in work that have catastrophic OS failures or just refused to boot into the OS is ridiculous.
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I hate the W8 interface (8.1 looks like an improvement however), but in my experience it's definitely ahead of W7 in terms of actual performance. Everything is just so fast and instant. The underlying OS is fine.
 
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diggmcbadass

Member
I don't get this. I run w8, so it's no problem for me. But limiting it just means no devs gonna bother using it for the next five years.
 
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Shaikh

Banned
Thanks God I got DX11 card where it will work. But I am not tempted to switch to Win8 from my precious Win7.
 
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derFeef

Member
Brerlappin said:
Im sure theres a flood of developers ready to adopt DX11.2 and cut out all those Windows 7 owners in favour of the mountain of Windows 8 gamers out there
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Developers should never improve on any technical level, I agree.

diggmcbadass said:
I don't get this. I run w8, so it's no problem for me. But limiting it just means no devs gonna bother using it for the next five years.
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It's not like there will be a ton of "11.2 only" games out there.
 
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