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DirectX 11.2 revealed

Zarx

Member
haven't watched the presentation yet, but is this basically the same thing as AMD's partially resident textures they introduced with GCN?
PRT1.jpg
 

amardilo

Member
Tiled resources sounds really good. It seems useful for a closed system like the Xbox One as it can help keep the amount of memory being used down.
 
What should I be looking at in the video? Seems I cannot see the difference (watching w/o sound @ work).

The Mars demo shows that they can take over 3GB's worth of assets stored in video memory and reduce the footprint down to 16GB's of video RAM using a programmable hardware page table solution.

correct me if wrong
but isnt this tiled sh*t alot like carmacks megatextures

I'm not an expert, but I think there are a few similarities.
 

xJavonta

Banned
Its a piece of shit that falls over at the drop of a hat. The amount of W8 laptops ive seen in work that have catastrophic OS failures or just refused to boot into the OS is ridiculous.

You've got to be making shit up now.

I understand not liking the OS, but it's literally Windows 7 reskinned with some speed improvements. You're essentially saying Windows 7 is shit, and we all know it's not.
 
You've got to be making shit up now.

I understand not liking the OS, but it's literally Windows 7 reskinned with some speed improvements. You're essentially saying Windows 7 is shit, and we all know it's not.

At the intern company all internship guys all bought the $30 upgrade hell even the owner we got a day off to fuck around in win 8. Install and boot on all laptops went well. I find it hard to believe that most laptop crashed only time i got win 8 to crash on me was when i abused opencl and forgot to bound check and corrupt memory. And then it was most of the time just an driver fail and win 8 recovered from it.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
In other words they just assured that virtually no developer will actively support the new standard for years to come, as it was with DX 10 at first, during the "Vista exclusivity" age.

Linux raise on the desktop market can't really come fast enough.

so much this
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
None of my capture or recording gear works for windows 8. Maybe once support for Win8 stops being total garbage I'll consider it, but not before.

Yes, it's Microsoft's job to make sure every piece of hardware works, not the hardware manufacturer supplying users with compatible drivers or anything.

Edit: I think I misread your post horribly.
 
You've got to be making shit up now.

I understand not liking the OS, but it's literally Windows 7 reskinned with some speed improvements. You're essentially saying Windows 7 is shit, and we all know it's not.

Yes im making up stories about all the W8 laptops ive had to repair in the hopes of impressing all the laydeez of gaf and maybe even snagging myself a tag. Nothing gets the ladies chairs moist like tales of PC repair.
 
History has shown that trying to gate DirectX upgrades behind OS upgrades doesn't work. Developers won't make games which support a DirectX level the majority of gamers aren't on, and gamers won't upgrade just for a DirectX version number. MS has limited power to force upgrades by dangling games in front of PC gamers because their first party is such a joke, I mean come on guys, Halo 2 Vista amirite?
 

derFeef

Member
History has shown that trying to gate DirectX upgrades behind OS upgrades doesn't work. Developers won't make games which support a DirectX level the majority of gamers aren't on, and gamers won't upgrade just for a DirectX version number. MS has limited power to force upgrades by dangling games in front of PC gamers because their first party is such a joke, I mean come on guys, Halo 2 Vista amirite?

It's not like 11.1 and lower get obsolete though. And no, DX10 Vista is not really comparable since it was a major release.
 

Wanny

Member
I upgraded to Win8 for free months ago and never looked back. I wasn't reading forums much either, hench why I was not in hating mind state.
 

M3d10n

Member
Most of the features seem targeted at Windows Store apps anyway. This tiled resource thing also looks more like something designed to improve performance on integrated/mobile GPUs.
 
I upgraded to Win8 for free months ago and never looked back. I wasn't reading forums much either, hench why I was not in hating mind state.

It just getting over the initial steps maybe google some shortcuts.
I hate win8 has the shutdown menu hiding what feels like 2~3 menu layer deep.
I now just use alt + f4
 
History has shown that trying to gate DirectX upgrades behind OS upgrades doesn't work. Developers won't make games which support a DirectX level the majority of gamers aren't on, and gamers won't upgrade just for a DirectX version number. MS has limited power to force upgrades by dangling games in front of PC gamers because their first party is such a joke, I mean come on guys, Halo 2 Vista amirite?

Yup. Vista's effort was pathetic. Now if they start releasing recent/new games like Halo 4, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, etc on PC then maybe that entices more than a few gamers to make the switch.
 

Toski

Member
If you have an SSD, I almost think getting Widows 8 is a no brainer. I looked at SSD maintenance and it seems almost everything is automatically set up for SSDs on Win 8 compared to Win 7. I hope my 7970s are able to support DX 11.2.
 

Sethos

Banned
Was is just the Start menu? I never used that thing...

Good on you. I used it all the time plus now I don't have to see that hideous abomination called the Metro screen or any of the metro apps.

It's now Windows 7 with the Windows 8 optimization.
 

Sethos

Banned
With a little Stardock Modern Mix in there as well.

Yeah, I used their trial for the 30 days until I realized with a proper start menu, I never opened a metro application. However if you do regularly, their ModernMix is also fantastic.
 

Zaventem

Member
Windows 8 hate out in full force. It's a fine os guys. Even if you completely ignore the new ui stuff, the changes to the classic desktop, while iterative, sure, are welcome. I prefer it over windows 7. They even had upgrade licenses for $15 when it first came out. Hard to top that.

Windows 8 deserved the hate when it was first released. The updated version is good though.
 

Sentenza

Member
History has shown that trying to gate DirectX upgrades behind OS upgrades doesn't work. Developers won't make games which support a DirectX level the majority of gamers aren't on, and gamers won't upgrade just for a DirectX version number. MS has limited power to force upgrades by dangling games in front of PC gamers because their first party is such a joke, I mean come on guys, Halo 2 Vista amirite?
What Microsoft is failing to understand -ONCE AGAIN- is that on an open platform "inclusivity" makes you more popular than exclusivity.
 

Raymo

Member
I hate that they lock shit like this behind another windows upgrade. Fewer devs are gonna support it now.... Why not just give it to everyone and let it garner support. Let everyone switch to windows 8 at their own pace to where they trust it enough to switch over. Vista+Dx10 again. Although I'm sure windows 8 can't be as bad as vista.
 

Theonik

Member
I hope more devs drop DirectX for OpenGL. DX is like cancer these days.

I hate that they lock shit like this behind another windows upgrade. Fewer devs are gonna support it now.... Why not just give it to everyone and let it garner support. Let everyone switch to windows 8 at their own pace to where they trust it enough to switch over. Vista+Dx10 again. Although I'm sure windows 8 can't be as bad as vista.
It's had a worse adoption rate than Vista last I checked.
 

Sentenza

Member
I'm not sure why people keep arguing about how much they like or dislike Windows 8, as that's almost irrelevant to the topic.

It could even be the best thing since someone invented Christmas' presents, but the issue here is that forcing people to use Windows 8 to use these new DX is going to discourage a lot of developers for embracing them.
 

Lucifon

Junior Member
Was is just the Start menu? I never used that thing...

Exactly...it's just a nicer way of displaying some shortcut icons. Once you know where those icons are, you can zip around the thing - exactly the same as with 7. In fact I'm much faster at actually using 8 than 7 now.

The amount of hate to what is just a reskinned way of viewing some icons is absolutely baffling and is the epitome of bandwagon internet hate. The desktop environment is exactly the same just faster (and with little improvements here and there like native iso support).
 
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