You say that as though Kickstarters are taking people for a ride.
They are after behavior is established as is the case with DF. Starting fresh, i usually give most an optimistic edge. Ive backed around 20 KS projects.
You say that as though Kickstarters are taking people for a ride.
It's not just me that sees no problem with this yeah?
Is there a Marvel vs. Capcom Kickstarter?You say that as though Kickstarters are taking people for a ride.
Time for the documentary episode where Tim swipes the copper wiring from a construction site.
Is there a Marvel vs. Capcom Kickstarter?
They are after behavior is established as is the case with DF. Starting fresh, i usually give most an optimistic edge. Ive backed around 20 KS projects.
Is there a Marvel vs. Capcom Kickstarter?
This actually seems weirder for people who aren't backers. Do they also get to just download the last half of the game for free? That seems super weird.
They are after behavior is established as is the case with DF. Starting fresh, i usually give most an optimistic edge. Ive backed around 20 KS projects.
Assuming they need a million or so more with the cuts involved, even at a selling price of something like 30$ they'd need at least 400k units sold, and I'm taking everything very broadly here. That's a lot for that type of gameLatest episode mentions something along the lines of a 6 million dollar budget (that's before the modest cuts announced here).
It's disappointing that they're in the situation to have to do it, but I don't take issue as long as the final product is good and polished.
Is there a Marvel vs. Capcom Kickstarter?
This actually seems weirder for people who aren't backers. Do they also get to just download the last half of the game for free? That seems super weird.
Earlier must be a euphemism, right? I think the Kickstarter promised it for October 2012. Now we're talking about 2014, maybe even 2015 for the full game. That is ridiculous.
I really see no problem with this. They are being open to the fans about the way they're developing the game so they don't run out of money.
But let me guess, one person read the phrase "we're running out of money", complaint about it, and many others took it to heart and didn't even read what he said. FFS.
It's disappointing that they're in the situation to have to do it, but I don't take issue as long as the final product is good and polished.
Assuming they need a million or so more with the cuts involved, even at a selling price of something like 30$ they'd need at least 400k units sold, and I'm taking everything very broadly here. That's a lot for that type of game
I take it the majority of you who pledged haven't been keeping up with the updates or watching the development videos.
The majority of people in this thread probably didn't pledge. I can't imagine someone that put money into this not reading Tim's update. So much disinformation here, it's ridiculous. This is GAF at its worst, people just looking for an excuse to shit on someone.
I have never seen it used in such a way. In general I don't really understand how pushing out so much of the project polished up and then doing the rest a few months later is efficient at all. I can't imagine it would've been that big of a deal for them to just wait and do it all at once.Shouldn't be weird for people who have used Steam Early Access.
They're being open with their fans?
They asked for more money for a second kickstarter before they mentioned any of this. I would hardly call that being open.
Being grossly incompetent and going over budget is one thing (whatever this is the norm for their games and I'm honestly okay with that). I really don't like the fact they kept all of this hidden when they went to go ask more of their loyal supporters for more money.
Yes, you're right, and even though I don't want to blame it on people, I have to in this case. People don't fucking read. It is seen in this thread, and just imagine how fucking bad their Kickstarter would have fared had they talked about it before it finished.
Sure they could have taken the earlier route, to which I'd reply the same: People are not reading what he said, and are taking it out of context, thinking they screwed up, when they have just announced a strategy to prevent the loss of more money.
Also their second KS is from another team with no involvement from Schafer as far as I know. Should they suffer because people don't know how to read?
Don't let me down Brian Fargo!
I keep seeing this too and its stupid.
It's a different team, its not being made by the same people, Schafer isn't even involved.
It's still a game being made by DF. I keep seeing people defend this games delay with the justification of an excuse that they're too stretched out making too many games. That's not my problem, thats theirs for not managing their shit correctly.
So yes they should have "suffered" for their co-workers failures.
Part One is the complete game, minus an optional fart sound effect. Part Two is the optional fart sound effect.Should we expect There Came an Echo Part One and Two?
And you're on the opposite extreme, seeing nothing wrong, and making wild assumptions about everyone making negative comments. Calm down.
Assuming they need a million or so more with the cuts involved, even at a selling price of something like 30$ they'd need at least 400k units sold, and I'm taking everything very broadly here. That's a lot for that type of game
I can't calculate for shit, my badWait, what?
If they sold 400,000 units at $20, that would be $8,000,000. Take away Steam's cut (often said to be around 30%) and that's still $5.6 million.
They'd need to do around 70,000 copies at $20 to make a million after Steam's cut.
They're being open with their fans?
They asked for more money for a second kickstarter before they mentioned any of this. I would hardly call that being open.
Being grossly incompetent and going over budget is one thing (whatever this is the norm for their games and I'm honestly okay with that). I really don't like the fact they kept all of this hidden when they went to go ask more of their loyal supporters for more money.
Pffft not playing until Part Two is released.Part One is the complete game, minus an optional fart sound effect. Part Two is the optional fart sound effect.
Part One is the complete game, minus an optional fart sound effect. Part Two is the optional fart sound effect.
Sometimes less is more.