H_Prestige
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It's actually the exact same thing. Ditto for KH remaster.
Oh, and they include two games.
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The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD is $59.99 at Amazon
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It's actually the exact same thing. Ditto for KH remaster.
Oh, and they include two games.
Actually, SE did rework some stuff in FFX/X2 too.
Anyway, I don't care for the price. It's Zelda. Nintendo got me by the balls.
Solid SOAP
Member
Why are Nintendo doing everything in their power to make the Wii U unappealing to me? This enhanced port does not need to be more than $40, tops.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
$50 seems fair. Obviously anyone thinking it costs too much doesn't know anything about logistics.
When most (read, all) HD ports/remasters/collections are 40$, you have the right to ask yourself why this one is 50.
BTW, is that the confirmed price or is this just on Amazon's page?
what? haha, there are many HD COLLECTIONS priced $10 cheaper, you'd have to be blind to not see Nintendo trying to fuck us with this.
Talking about logistics, you mean if they were able to increase demand for Wii U and this game, they would be able to distribute logistics costs over a higher quantity and only then they could make it cheaper?
Anyway, the Player's Choice version of this game was 29.99. This version was especially great for Wii U fans: It had asymmetric multiplayer.
PairOfFilthySocks
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A faster sail, superflous gamepad shit and a different color scheme. They don't even seem to have touched the music, for fucks sake. A team of about 5 dudes could get this thing done and dusted in about a month. $50? Bullshit.
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FFX has completely redone textures across the board, is cheaper and includes FFX-2; it's a considerably larger effort.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
Most original games that were ported in HD this gen aged like Wonder Bread though. Wind Waker is genuinely still a great game in every aspect and Nintendo made it better.
You could also ask why Mario games rarely go down in price. It's because they're that good of games, most people can agree on this.
Which brings the next question: Why Wind Waker?
Skyward Sword is too recent, sure, but what about Twilight Princess?
Heck, I would have loved a WW+TP HD Collection.
H_Prestige
Banned
LOL, talk about nostalgia goggles. WW on GC looks like shit. It's no different from a high end ps2 game.
Not even sure why that would support a higher price even if it were true. Because WW already looks better than all those ps2 games, the remaster should cost more? Explain the logic to me. I would think, if anything, it should cost less, since it requires less work to bring it up to current gen standards.
you can still play twilight princess legit on your wii u
this is the first time i've heard that one
Aeriscloud
Banned
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
True, I don't understand that myself. TP would have been the call but oh boy if they did people would be in a frenzy at Nintendo re-releasing a game from last gen. Even though it was also on GC, but still.
WW is just old enough for them to market it as new. It's not necessarily the right thing to do, but hey it's easier to get away with.
jts
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Show me an HD remaster of a game just as good as TWW, that is not merely a "push button to render in HD" kind of thing, and actually improves on the original game's gameplay as well.
H_Prestige
Banned
Aged like fine wine, right?
Then we have eye cancer inducing visuals like this:
Here ya go
Gravity Breaker
Banned
Had they released a Twilight Princess remake, I wouldn't have bought it since I can already play Twilight Princess on Wii U. (Not to mention that I've played it through five times already...)
But I can't play Wind Waker on Wii U and my Gamecube version doesn't work anymore. Not to mention that I have only beaten it twice and it has been a long while since my last playthrough. Not to mention that the game looks really pretty.
But I do agree that WW and TP HD collection would've been awesome!
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
I'm not just saying this to defend Nintendo games but aren't most Kingdom Hearts effectively the same game? I don't mean that in a pompous way I mean seriously the gameplay is about the same from game to game.
There's no way they would have gotten away with charging anywhere near full price for 1.5 when you could buy any of the other games in the series and receive the same experience.
Wind Waker is the only Zelda experience of it's kind.
There's no way they would have gotten away with charging anywhere near full price for 1.5 when you could buy any of the other games in the series and receive the same experience.
Wind Waker is the only Zelda experience of it's kind.
Well, they were kinda forced to remake some of it because they lost the original assets.
EDIT: Okay, Rich Black American, you need to stop. Just stop.
Compelling argument!
jts
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I humbly accept the entry but $40 is still not the $20-$30 ballpark people were begging for, it's a $10 difference from TWW HD that doesn't warrant an outcry, esp. with TWW being a critically acclaimed 90%+ game without Nomura's belts and zippers destroying your eyeballs' souls.
Snowden's Secret
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When Casablanca or Citizen Kane came out on Blu-Ray, were they more or less expensive than Transformers 2 when it came out? Does Disney give a discount on its movies that are decades old? If I want to pick up some Beatles albums on iTunes are the songs cheaper than Justin Bieber?
MikeXXIeaf
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You're damn right it is. You can't charge the same for a game that is just like the 5 others in your series. That definitely factors into the price.
you can't be serious.
Wind Waker is the Citizen Kane of gaming?
H_Prestige
Banned
I knew it would come to this.
$40 vs $50 makes a big difference. For any game. It's also 2 games vs 1.
Bending_Unit_22
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With one correction it's the same question I'm asking. This and $60 Pikmin and NSMBU? I know Iwata has an absurd profit forecast to hit but yeah no, will wait for the firesale when this is in a Toys r Us bargain bin for $10. Looking at the huge Amazon discounts that can't be too far off now.
people who enjoy being f*cked by nintendo vs people with a lil bit of common sense in their heads.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
He has a point. People seem to think age warrants a cheaper price.
HD releases in the past have led you to believe that when in reality those games didn't age well, so they're priced accordingly.
WW's gameplay held up gloriously. You can't say that about most games.
Why compare it to other branches when the standard price for HD ports (enhanced ore barebone) is lower than the price of new games?
I was only joking, but he mentioned that film in particular so he was asking for it lol.
wind waker hd is lower than the price of new games. that's literally what the thread is about. the game got a price drop on amazon.
It's not really budget price, and 49.99 is the new standard price for Wii U titles published by Nintendo.
WrenchNinja
Member
You have no clue what you're talking about
You could make this argument for just about every modern video game series out there that I can think of. "They are the same game, the gameplay is about the same from game to game". Including 3D Zelda if you really wanted to, I don't agree with that previous statement mind you but its just to be fair here.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
Why is that the standard? Should it be the standard? Why should we devalue are most treasured games because they are old? Iwata has repeatedly railed against iOS styled race to the bottom pricing, does a WWHD at sub full price fit into this long standing policy?
Again, Nintendo aren't overvalung their software, everyone else is undervaluing theirs.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
We're not talking about every 3D Zelda, we're talking about Wind Waker.
Either way it sure is a lot more unique within it's series than KH1 is gameplay wise.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
This has no bearing whatsoever on the fact that this is a ridiculously lazy effort that we are being charged 50 bucks for.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
It's lazy to you but what else could they have done? The game is great as is. They don't have to oversell it in order to make up for dated gameplay.
so instead of posting some shitty jpeg of wind waker versus a shot of KH running in an emulator...
looks like shit
I can say it about FFX/X-2, God of War, Metal Gear Solid, ICO & SotC at least.
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Anyways I'm fine with Nintendo charging this high price if they really think they can make higher profits off it. That's their right to do so. People will probably still eat this game up.
One thing this does though is really make me appreciate Square Enix's HD remaster efforts. Just from comparing, it makes me feel that SE are charging a really good price for the amount of effort they put in and the amount of content in their games. And normally they're the ones with the price tax. Will definitely buy KH HD, FFX HD, and hopefully they give us FFXII HD too.
Oh I see. I'm sorry, but as a customer I disagree. I don't think that paying for an old product that has already amortised it's costs full price is worth it, especially when Nintendo once re-released it for 30.
If we are taking your stance, that of a corporate defender or business person, you might be right as you want to increase profits. But then this strategy might be shortsighted as Nintendo currently is in no position to set prices since both customers and retailers show little interest in the Wii U console.