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handytips.info Rumor: Microsoft to 'reintroduce' Xbox1 @ event/may lower price to 399
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Boo.
Everyone having a Kinect could actually help. What they need to do is let you unplug it.
Alebrije
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Does MS can sell the XBONE with a loss for long time ? Yes it can.
Does MS cares about the game industry ? No , 360, Xbone are just merely troyan horses, the living room OS agenda is their goal
It is good for us (consumers) ? in someways yes at this moment but if MS manages to rule the industry what we saw at E3 and previusly will pale compared with what they will do.
So the best for us is to have the 3 companies healty ( Sony , Nintendo , MS ). If this rumor is confirmed it will help MS to compete againts Sony , that is good.
Does MS cares about the game industry ? No , 360, Xbone are just merely troyan horses, the living room OS agenda is their goal
It is good for us (consumers) ? in someways yes at this moment but if MS manages to rule the industry what we saw at E3 and previusly will pale compared with what they will do.
So the best for us is to have the 3 companies healty ( Sony , Nintendo , MS ). If this rumor is confirmed it will help MS to compete againts Sony , that is good.
I don't see MS dropping the price for a while. The fact that they were going along with the whole "always online" DRM thing shows they don't really care about marketshare or selling the most consoles, they seem more concerned with profits.
They'll most likely sell out of whatever limited launch supply they have at $500, then they can drop the price (or release a non-Kinect SKU for $399) a few months later if necessary.
They'll most likely sell out of whatever limited launch supply they have at $500, then they can drop the price (or release a non-Kinect SKU for $399) a few months later if necessary.
If they do this, I'll laugh. And save $100. So I guess as far as baseless rumors go, I'm for it?
MS is still going to run into perception problems because they're reacting too quickly. They're supposed to keep making mistakes for years, so when they do finally turn around people can nod sagely and say they've learned their lesson. Acting before it all goes to shit financially is just not how things usually go.
MS is still going to run into perception problems because they're reacting too quickly. They're supposed to keep making mistakes for years, so when they do finally turn around people can nod sagely and say they've learned their lesson. Acting before it all goes to shit financially is just not how things usually go.
The Omega Man
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I am convinced OP is Reiko's alt, he only creates whishful tale from my ass xbone1 threads
rakkadakka
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Man that no-Xbox checklist is getting smaller by the day..
If rumors are to be believed.
If rumors are to be believed.
Haven't they already said you can set it to not listen if you choose not to have the ability to use the 'Xbox On' function?
chicagocubsfan
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Wow has a game console ever been price cut before launch? Good for Microsoft fans if true, but it's desperate on their part.
I didn't know that. Well in that case I would throw in the headset and Killer Instinct for $499. It does seem to be a bit of a showcase for Twitch and Kinect. It also would get people more familiar with downloading their console games not to mention greatly increasing the amount of season pass/DLC they would sell for it.
And those who want it could just buy it separately?
Yes You. Can. Dude, do yourself a favour, stop embarssing yourself and go give yourself a history lesson on Microsoft's financial decisions regarding their consoles.
Fact - They were willing to take a HUGE (not really, but by your palty standards) risk with Xbox, lost billions, moved onto 360.
Fact - Lost billions on the 360 too, then reaped it back in the latter part of the gen.
Fact - The EDD/360 is making significant money now. So they have a buffer, something they've never had before.
Fact - If they deem it important enough, they will swallow a $bill ($100/10 million consoles) to gain parity with PS4 and it still won't come close to losses made on Xbox and the early days of Xbox 360.
They have a history for this, they have the funds, and you think $1b is a risk?? They lost like $600 million from Danger a year or so back, $1b is nothing to MS and it's overlooked.
lionkitten
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They absolutely positively aren't dropping the Kinect.
The Kinect is the Blu-Ray of the generation, in that there will be a sizeable percentage of mass-market people who will absolutely buy the console because of the feature set. I know on this gaming forum people keep downplaying the UI and TV features enables by Kinect, but that's absolutely going to broaden their market beyond all of us gamers willing to shell out out money at launch.
How about dropping the price to $449 with six months of Live? Or some Live credits - $25 in your account or something, now that they went to real currency? Would that do it for you?
The Kinect is the Blu-Ray of the generation, in that there will be a sizeable percentage of mass-market people who will absolutely buy the console because of the feature set. I know on this gaming forum people keep downplaying the UI and TV features enables by Kinect, but that's absolutely going to broaden their market beyond all of us gamers willing to shell out out money at launch.
How about dropping the price to $449 with six months of Live? Or some Live credits - $25 in your account or something, now that they went to real currency? Would that do it for you?
Nightengale
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Losing money is fine. It's par for course for every business, especially when R&D, cut-throat hardware business and many other logistics are involved.
The question was whether or not the 'investment' makes sense & what other parts of the business think about this. Big corporations don't just decided to pop... say a billion into what is fundamentally a 'minimal value' return.
GrizzledGrump
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So as a matter of fact, it's integral to the Xbox One experience. As a matter of opinion, you think that's stupid.
Time will tell.
Neuromancer
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Sounds incredibly plausible.
Yes, but but but... The NSA boogyman!
People will conveniently forgets those details if it helps them justify their purchasing decisions.
GoofsterStud
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Even if the Kinect costs half the system.... "one of the rumors stated"
Even if you have to pay half the systems price if anything goes wrong with the Kinect to play games that don't use it?
Even if your launch console is bricked because you got a defective Kinect?
Wut? You should recheck your claim.
Edit: I'm not denying I'm doing a lot of X1 threads but most of them aren't wishful rumor threads. I'm also doing PS4 threads. And yeah - I'm a little X1 fanboy as others are PS4 fanboys.
We'll know soon enough. The rumor regarding Microsoft reversing its DRM/Always Online policies came from a site that nobody heard of. But like all rumors, this should be taken with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.
Are there people that actually make an effort to unplug their Kinect?!
That...that's just funny to me. The Kinect in our living room hasn't been unplugged since launch night.
Zatoichi's Cane
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What are you talking about? The PS4 is the proof that Sony listened and the whole reason MS is backtracking on everything....
That's why this isn't a done deal, MS has to decide if they want to give PS4 an early lead which could possibly snowball, that in itself is a bigger risk than $1b.
Garrett 2U
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We don't know how you'd snap applications, we don't know how you'd "instantly" switch between games/apps/tv without kinect, we don't know how you'd use the TV functionality without kinect, we don't know how you'd interact with snapped applications without kinect (how would you switch inbetween control of the game and the app).
Stuff like that. I'm sure you could guess how it might be done with a controller, but we don't actually have any details on that.
And even then, I look at kinect sort of like a touch screen on a smartphone.
Sure you could use arrow keys and a select button to navigate, but having a touchscreen makes the smartphone so much more convenient and useful.
So even though kinect might not be required to use the features, it makes them so much more feasible on a console.
Mass Effect
Member
Okay, this was pretty funny.
So, uh, if this turns out to be true, is there anything MS WON'T have reversed on? I mean it's great that their doing this, but it seems they lack no conviction or confidence in their original intentions. Everything seems reactionary.
Also, when is Gamescom?
Giantbomb.com is unheard of?
Seriously this. The NSA stuff has people losing their minds lol.
People asking Microsoft to drop Kinect, it will never happen. Cboat already said Microsoft will ride with it to the grave. If they can price match Sony, the value of the Xbox One increase out the roof. The mass market won't care about GDDR5 or 1.8 teraflops, they'll care about price and how one has a camera and the other doesn't. That being said, I can't see this happening.
shinobi602
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It's strange something that's "integral" can be completely turned off, making it...err, not integral, yet still required.
You have to stop thinking about it as two different pieces of hardware rather than one system.
Like Onstar or a backup camera in a new car purchase. If that feature dissuades you, there's another car without it.
CitizenCope
Member
For as little as I would use it I want that shit especially if every other Xbox One owner had one too. $399 would be fantastic. Doubt it though.
jamesinclair
Banned
Why havent the shareholders demanded that the idiots in charge of all these policies be fired?
Why is there never accountability?
Why is there never accountability?
SEGAvangelist
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So have we decided that this rumor is bullshit or not?
Come back in a week or so
GoofsterStud
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It is a separate piece of hardware. You can even put it in hibernation and function just fine.
SmokedMeat
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How much more backpedaling can they do?
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