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Capcom details the tech behind Deep Down; can't say if PS4 exclusive or not

MMaRsu

MMaRsu

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TheUnsunghero26 said:
So what about the 3 xbox only Dead Rising games Capcom published? Port begging first party games is getting really annoying. Happens with Bayonetta 2 and now Dead Rising.
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What 3 xbox only games? Dead Rising 1 is also on Wii. DR2 is also on PS3, and DR3 would only be on Xbox One? It's not port begging it's speculation but I doubt any capcom game will stay exclusive next gen.

I mean do you remember the Capcom 5?
 
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Night Hunter

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Panta Rhei really is an awesome engine name, a lot of engines just have some "badass" name slapped on to it, but with this demo, all the fire, particles etc. the name really fits!
 
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TheUnsunghero26

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MMaRsu said:
What 3 xbox only games? Dead Rising 1 is also on Wii. DR2 is also on PS3, and DR3 would only be on Xbox One? It's not port begging it's speculation but I doubt any capcom game will stay exclusive next gen.

I mean do you remember the Capcom 5?
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Dead Rising 1(I admit I forgot about the Wii version but you could make the case it's a different game), Case West, and Case Zero. Microsoft is the publisher for DR3, not Capcom surprisingly. It's just like how Nintendo is publishing Bayonetta rather than Sega.
 
MMaRsu

MMaRsu

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TheUnsunghero26 said:
Dead Rising 1(I admit I forgot about the Wii version but you could make the case it's a different game), Case West, and Case Zero. Microsoft is the publisher for DR3, not Capcom surprisingly. It's just like how Nintendo is publishing Bayonetta rather than Sega.
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Yeah Case West and Case Zero are exclusives, you are right there. But then again those are not really full blown games.

If MS is the pub for DR3 then to be honest I don't see it coming to PC or PS4 anytime soon. But Capcom games don't have a history of staying exclusive.
 
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KKRT00

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dragonbane said:
So 4m polys max for the Sorcerer tech demo sounds believable right? Because some people even questioned that number lol
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5-6m should be achievable next-gen without big issues.

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velociraptor said:
Where?
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"The peak performance of the PS4 is lower than that of an high end PC theoretically, but due to the ease of development and the streamlined architecture there are areas in which it can be superior."

Of course translation isnt too good so it could be wrong :)
 
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bj00rn_

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KKRT00 said:
Its not completely relative, because 570 [and i7] was outperforming PS4 in this demo.
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Which basically means that you are not far off from being able to build a PC outperforming a PS4/XbOne for roughly the same price as they are launching for. The tides are turning..
 
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DoucheVader

Neo Member
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
I doubt it will be an exclusive...especially the way Capcom be feeling about Sony lol! However, regardless of what..Seen it at the PS4 conference, buying it on the PS4 by association. Simple as that.

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Capcom%E2%80%99s-PS4-Fantasy-title-Deep-Down-looks-like-Dark-Souls-meets-Dragon-Dogma.gif


Were these shots running at 60fps or 30fps
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If you can't tell does it matter? :)
 
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DoucheVader

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MMaRsu said:
Yeah Case West and Case Zero are exclusives, you are right there. But then again those are not really full blown games.

If MS is the pub for DR3 then to be honest I don't see it coming to PC or PS4 anytime soon. But Capcom games don't have a history of staying exclusive.
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That MS Game Studios logo didn't stop Mass Effect from coming to PS3.
 
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RoboPlato

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Endless said:
New article is up: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/3dcg/20130801_608484.html

Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OrUIYd3Cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZA6ju-55oA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZA6ju-55oA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP7A4j_mRLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OF2qhYJbx0
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Whoa, the fire fluid simulation is so much more impressive now that we have proof that it's running in real time. It behaves very realistically and animates quite well. Looks so much better than what we're used to. I hope more devs try to do stuff like this. It adds a layer of quality, consistency, and believability to the world that I prefer to just upping textures or other effects.
 
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DracoBlade

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Silence usually means an admission of "guilt".

Expect XB1 announcement by or during TGS (potentially Gamescom for MS presence)
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I will buy this game solely because of dragons.
 
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Hindle

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I actually hope Capcom deliver with this. The graphics and premise are awesome you look to be basically a dragon slayer? I expect there to be many different kinds of dragons in the game as well.

Edit. I think the game will be X1/Ps4 as well. No way it's exclusive.
 
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KKRT00

Member
Endless said:
New article is up: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/3dcg/20130801_608484.html

Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OrUIYd3Cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZA6ju-55oA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZA6ju-55oA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP7A4j_mRLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OF2qhYJbx0
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Bah, no info about cost of fluid simulation except for mentioning that its simulated in 15fps. Its also interesting that they are using frame interpolation to up the framerate, probably in a manner of tech from Lucasarts guys
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-frame-rate-upscaler-tech-interview

Also interesting is last sentence, it suggests that Capcom wants to sell Panta Rhei engine to 3rd party devs too.
 
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childplease

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The peak performance of the PS4 is lower than that of an high end PC theoretically, but due to the ease of development and the streamlined architecture there are areas in which it can be superior.
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Ahahahah

Seriously though release the ungimped version pc.

Do not downsize the game just to get it to run on next gen consoles.

Unleash the full potential of the game release it and dev it for pc first then cut corners for the console versions.
 
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velociraptor

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KKRT00 said:
5-6m should be achievable next-gen without big issues.

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"The peak performance of the PS4 is lower than that of an high end PC theoretically, but due to the ease of development and the streamlined architecture there are areas in which it can be superior."

Of course translation isnt too good so it could be wrong :)
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But you said:

"Its not completely relative, because 570 [and i7] was outperforming PS4 in this demo."

The 570GTX is not a high-end GPU. It isn't any better than the 7850. You've flat out made that line up.
 
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zoukka

Member
Great videos! The fire looks unnaturally "large" though, like it's bursting in a miniature world.

And the initial Deep Down reveal vid is just 100% bogus I'm absolutely sure.
 
Refreshment.01

Refreshment.01

Member
GameSeeker said:
Well, at least this eliminates the FUD about the Deep Down demo being CG and not actual code running on a PS4.
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People taught that?

Biggest compliment you can give the hardware then. Look what Capcom did with the 3DS Revelations runing on 3D and it's you know... an actual game.
 
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zoukka

Member
The demo was bogus... these videos just reinforce that view. They are impressive, but choppy and far from the quality the reveal vid had in terms of animation, physics and the flame effects.
 
Wishmaster92

Wishmaster92

Member
Holy shit, so based on the recent rumor:
GPU is twice as powerful as standard PS4 and much faster
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Would it be possible for the ps4k to run the original deep down demo with no compromises?

I'm not talking about the "Deep downgraded" version
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I'm talking about this version:
The demo can run on a PC with an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 570, 8 GB of RAM, and an Intel Core i7 CPU
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deepdowmheader.jpg

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