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Halo 4 Designer Calls Out Kojima on Sex (Pot to Kettle: "You are blue!")

bobbytkc

ADD New Gen Gamer
The next time I go to the beach and see a babe in a bikini, I'm going to point my finger and shout "that's terrible character design!"
 
Nothing hypocritical there at all. Nope.

Cortana has always had the form of an unclothed female, it's just that with Halo 4 this became realistic enough to suddenly appear that she was 'naked'.

I disagree with this. Previous games give the impression that she is wearing pseudo-clothing (look at the foot structure). H4 dispenses with that entirely and flat out implies nudity, as well as ridiculously ramping up that aspect of her appearance.

Now on the other hand, the H3 model seems like a fitting graphical extension of previous models.
 

Acheteedo

Member
I understand that, but you have to remember that they didn't have to make Cortana look so fleshed out. They chose to do that.

I guess so, and I'm sure they were fully aware of what they were doing, but it's still a natural evolution.

For the record, I don't think I care either way, if Kojima wants to sexy up the characters in his game then that's his call, it just looks ridiculous to me.
 

vio

Member
For reference:





Cortana has always had the form of an unclothed female, it's just that with Halo 4 this became realistic enough to suddenly appear that she was 'naked'.

The Kojima pic is definitely worse, I mean, it doesn't even make sense.


He is just jealous because Kojima`s girls are way hotter.
 
There's nothing wrong with the character design, whats disgusting about it?
do clothes count as character design now?
she might have multiple outfits.

master chief is a disgusting character design if he's wearing a thong. lol
 
I very much doubt Ellis had a role to play in the cortana design he is a mission designer.

That said its incredibly hypocritical of him to comment when his studio has a naked blue AI as the main companion.
 
I mean, the MGS5 design is pretty dumb considering the tone of the game thus far, and the locations we've seen. It's just eye candy for the sake of it and stuck out like a sore thumb in what was a pretty self serious and dramatic E3 trailer.

Then again, Cortana's design is pretty dumb too so......
 

meppi

Member
At least Kijoma's games have a bit of substance to them as well.

But yeah, pot, kettle. etc.

Really dumb shit to say.
 
I dont like her in 4. She was perfect in 3.

I'm fine with her in 4, and I was fine with her in 3, but the thing is - maybe it's the haircut or something, but whenever I see a screenshot of her Halo 3 model posted, she has that white middle-aged mulletted housewife look going. I don't like generalizing or using the term trailer trash, but... Yeah.

Again, she looked alright when I was playing the game.
 

Lyot

Member
The next time I go to the beach and see a babe in a bikini, I'm going to point my finger and shout "that's terrible character design!"

You're doing it wrong:

The next time I go to a japanese beach and see a babe in a bikini, I'm going to point my finger and shout "that's terrible character design!"
 
What's funny is Kojima is at least being honest in this matter, and yet BigFun is calling him the manbaby. Doesn't surprise me, though, especially from someone who graduated into games developement via enthusiast press. I imagine hypocrisy-bordering-on-jingoism just comes naturally for him at this point.
 

Darkroronoa

Member
Both cortana and the metal gear one are kinda ridiculous,especially the metal gear one.But its videogames so its not bothering me much but the metal gear one is bad in my opinion,it could be much better.Its really extreme,as the person above me said,all its missing is the high heels.
 

Smash

Banned
Is he the one responsible for Cortana? Does he have any say in that at all?


If he's so offended by semi-naked females he should have lobbied to remove the 'disgusting' Cortana character model. If you're going to start dictating what's right and appropriate you better be squeaky clean.
 
Q

Queen of Hunting

Unconfirmed Member
its not like David outright designed cortana, you know he probably has has no say in what she looks like in game. and if he had his way going by what hes saying she would more than likely look different.

If he's so offended by semi-naked females he should have lobbied to remove the 'disgusting' Cortana character model. If you're going to start dictating what's right and appropriate you better be squeaky clean.

and is things that easy in a work place. have you ever tried changing something you dislike in a work place and had to fight with upper mangement/people above you ? on your own aswell ?
 

gogogow

Member
For reference:





Cortana has always had the form of an unclothed female, it's just that with Halo 4 this became realistic enough to suddenly appear that she was 'naked'.

The Kojima pic is definitely worse, I mean, it doesn't even make sense.

There's nothing "worse" about it. In MGS there were always sexy ladies, it's like complaining there are Bond girls in James Bond movies. The Halo series changed devs and they could change the design if they wanted.

Has this guy ever played a MGS game? This is so fucking annoying, they are man babies themselves. Or is he also on the Anita Sarkeesian train?
 
I thought the girl in MGS has her clothes taken away from her when she was captured. Does she remain in a bikini throughout the game?
 
Guys, David is a fellow poster here on GAF. I'm not saying that his comments aren't hypocritical considering he is attached to Halo 4, but this probably prevented him from making similar criticisms publicly towards the design of Cortana in that game. All I'm saying is let's stay away from personal attacks, please.
 
its not like David outright designed cortana, you know he probably has has no say in what she looks like in game. and if he had his way going by what hes saying she would more than likely look different.

Did he ever call out his own company for sexing her up? It just seems like Kojima's being upfront about what he's doing.
 

Floex

Member
I think this GIF sums it up best

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watershed

Banned
its not like David outright designed cortana, you know he probably has has no say in what she looks like in game. and if he had his way going by what hes saying she would more than likely look different.



and is things that easy in a work place. have you ever tried changing something you dislike in a work place and had to fight with upper mangement/people above you ? on your own aswell ?

I think the idea is that if he wants to criticize overtly sexualized female designs in videogames he should start with his own game/colleagues. That's the braver thing to do and it would be holding his work he contributes to, to the same standard he is professing here.
 
If it's true that Cortana changes her appearance to make Chief subconciously care more for her ("wanting to protect her") then it's sad they never touch on that in the game.

But Kojima's gonna Kojima. I didn't raise an eyebrow about Quiet until he started talking about why he sexed her up. Kojima's always been sort of like Suda 51 and Tarantino in that the stuff they do is just so weird on all levels that it's hard to try and bring traditional values when comparing and complaining.

Still don't have a problem with it, MGSV can have as much fucked up shit as possible, because that's what MGS is all about.
 

Lyot

Member
and is things that easy in a work place. have you ever tried changing something you dislike in a work place and had to fight with upper mangement/people above you ? on your own aswell ?


If he doesn't have the balls (oh, I am so sexist for using that expression) to criticize their own colleagues, he should shout up about everyone else who does "sexist character designs". It makes him look hypocritical.
 
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