Where did I say that objectification of female characters to be a non-issue? Of course your free to take offense to it and find it problematic. Hell I personally think Quiet's design is pretty stupid, but it doesn't mean I think it and sexualization within our media and culture is contributing to some made up notion that it's leading to sexual assault, rape, harassment, etc. Or that sexualization within our media is contributing to a culture that is less aware or understanding of such issues. I think that belief is completely absurd, and studies have shown that to not at all be the case. In fact our society is more aware, intolerant, openly discusses, and is safer than it's ever been when regarding these issues, despite the increase of sexualization within our media and culture.
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Halo 4 Designer Calls Out Kojima on Sex (Pot to Kettle: "You are blue!")
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Where did I say that objectification of female characters to be a non-issue? Of course your free to take offense to it and find it problematic. Hell I personally think Quiet's design is pretty stupid, but it doesn't mean I think it and sexualization within our media and culture is contributing to some made up notion that it's leading to sexual assault, rape, harassment, etc. Or that sexualization within our media is contributing to a culture that is less aware or understanding of such issues. I think that belief is completely absurd, and studies have shown that to not at all be the case. In fact our society is more aware, intolerant, openly discusses, and is safer than it's ever been when regarding these issues, despite the increase of sexualization within our media and culture.
BumblebeeCody
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Jimquisition: OBJECTIFICATION AND... MEN
Only 6 minutes long, just watch it.
Only 6 minutes long, just watch it.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Joke post?
FunkyPajamas
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jacksepticeye
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ANyone else think this is EXACTLY what Kojima wants to happen. To make people think she's too scantily clad and over the top to drive discussion and then something in the game will make you go "Oh, now I feel bad for thinking that". I hope he pulls the good ole Kojima stuff on us and he hasn't lost it all to his dirty old perverted mind
This was posted in the other thread: http://metagearsolid.org/2013/09/be-quiet-sexy-cosplayers/
Interesting theory.
The study doesn't find that, though. The study was a look at the sexualization of people on the cover of Rolling Stone. It had nothing to do with any correlation between sexualization and violence, that's just something the author of the study said in an interview with no source to back up said claim.
The study:
The findings:
Her unsourced, unrelated claim:
The Librarian
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"Hatton is the author of The Temp Economy: From Kelly Girls to Permatemps in Postwar America (Temple University Press, 2011). Her work focuses on the sociology of work, with attention to gender, race, labor, political economy and public policy."
But her claim that "Sexualized portrayals of women have been found to legitimize or exacerbate violence against women and girls" has no source and is unrelated to the study described in that article.
I'm not trying to discredit her or the Rolling Stone study. The link she is drawing between sexualization of women and violence against women is what I have an issue with.
The Librarian
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Dude, ten minutes of searching the internet about the issue will yield several results of portrayals of women by the media and violence/harassment against women.
Also, I'm not a boy.
Care to link a study? All I find when I search for that are opinions, no data.
And..okay? I never said anything about your sex or gender.
The Librarian
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I'm on my phone at the moment.
And before you edited your post, it said "his source." So, yeah, you did say something about it.
I was talking about the author of the Rolling Stone study.
Well we already that know the games enthusiast press can say what they want without the fear of trouble from the company they work for -- look at Polygon.
Is this the same for Game Developers?
Razgriz-Specter
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The Boss is the best female character in video games.
He's joking.
blitzcloud
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What a way to dumb down arguments with gender and sexuality satire rebuttal as I would expect from someone knowing no better. I was simply saying that intolerant people enforce shit on tolerant people probably to a bigger extent that it happens otherwise. I would say the very same if they were trying to block any design.
But hey, more power to you. Aw yiss.
It really won't.
It will lead to some *very* limited neurological evidence being exaggerated to a truly staggering extent that ignores both cognitive and longitudinal factors, being horribly misused on a sadly endemic basis.
But it is making the same misapplication of evidence that was used to justify some truly horrible things in the 60s.
Are you still on the phone?
I'm also eager to see the studies.
From what I see is, the more relaxed people are about sexuality (contrary to going crazy about a singer showing her breasts), the less sexual violence there is.
Examples:
Germany, where men and women have no problem sitting naked next to people of any sex in sauna, 9.4 cases per 100 000 population
Japan, with porn accessible everywhere, record 1 rape per 100 000 population
vs US, where showing naked breasts cause public outcry yet porn industry is bigger than Hollywood, 27 per 100k.
vs Egypt, where there are no nude females in media yet female journalists get raped on public squares.
Please stop making unsubstantiated claims. Not only I haven't found studies proving causation of sexual violence and harassment from sexualization which is what most feminists claim,I can't even find studies proving strong correlation between the two.
All I found were determined feminists purposely taking things out of context and mischaracterizing the findings of studies so that they can adjust reality to their own close-minded belief system.
Sexualization causing sexual violence is an urban myth supported by extremely weak and many times purposely biased evidence, just like violence in videogames.
Maybe when you get off the phone you can actually take a look at the studies you want everybody else to search for and realize they don't say what you think/want them to say.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Frazetta laughs at all this BS from his grave.
Morrigan Stark
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^ The fuck is that supposed to mean?
I've always wondered, if studies show that sexualized portrayals of women in media can lead to violence against women or legitamize it, how can sexualized portayals of women "in person" not have similar effects. How much the agency, autonomy and choice of the women come into play when we're dealing with biology and psychology of the "viewer"? Is the man who spends all of his time in a strip club but doesn't pay much attention to media better off than those who are bombarded with sexualized depictions of women through media but would never step foot in such a place?
Maybe these questions have been answered before though.
Maybe these questions have been answered before though.
brickarts295
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No sure if posted but...
