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New unannounced Capcom game to be shown at TGS 2013 (Itsuno involved)
- Thread starter Glass Rebel
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When does the unveil happen?
Dreams will be crushed.
GenoZStriker
Neo Member
I'm believing so hard in DMC5 right now
I'm not getting my hopes crushed. It will be Dragon's Dogma 2. And while it's a good sequel to announce, I'll be disappointed.
I fucking care. Because it would mean the resurrection of one of my favorite series of all time.
I fucking care. Because it would mean the resurrection of one of my favorite series of all time.
direct_quote
Member
Quit playing games with my heart.
(. Ughghghghgh
still believe we would hear rumors if it was the case like initial DmC reveal
Quit playing games with my heart.still believe we would hear rumors if it was the case like initial DmC reveal
Depends on how much of a teaser it is.
All they would have to do, literally, is flash a titlecard. If that's the case, the game could have been greenlit only earlier this year without having enough time for rumors to run rampant. I imagine part of why DmC leaked so quickly is because there were a lot of different companies involved from the get go.
All I really want is an update on the DMC franchise. They don't even have to show actual footage. Capcom went radio silent on the series after DmC which doesn't inspire much confidence.
As long as it's not a fucking IOS game I will be hyped for the game because it's Itsuno. DD2, new IP, Rival Schools, CvS3... anything would be good just please no fucking IOS shit such a waste of talent if they do it.
As long as it's not a fucking IOS game I will be hyped for the game because it's Itsuno. DD2, new IP, Rival Schools, CvS3... anything would be good just please no fucking IOS shit such a waste of talent if they do it.
... it's going to be an iOS Free to Play game now. Or they'll waste his talent directing some XBLA port, like Niitsuma with JoJo's HD.
Where did they announce Dragon's Dogma and Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen?
EDIT: It was during Captivate, which doesn't exist anymore. So, I guess it's possible for them to announce DD2 at TGS.
I want to believe so much, myself.
With all the bosses, and some extras and full nero devil trigger.
... I'm actually ok with this idea.
Nevermind I figured it out myself:
That is BELIEVING.
But I think that DMC5 proper would be the best thing to come out of this. It makes me so anxious that there's no other flag besides Itsuno being involved--considering how weird Capcom's been recently. Next gen or current gen would not be that huge of a concern for me, as long as it's not releasing in mid 2015 or some form of "way too late."
I do think, that if the game that gets announced isn't DMC5 (or DmC2 =P) at least one publication will hound him for a response on the state of Devil May Cry. He might give a non-answer but hopefully provide some sort of signal in this scenario.
That Dude John
Member
So reading this carefully:
11:40 Product Line-up Introduction Stage Introduction of Capcoms latest apps. Plus, the reveal of an unannounced title. Featuring director Itsuno Hideaki.
It says they're showing multiple apps, and that Itsuno is there. However, it doesn't say the new title is Itsuno's game.
Mayhaps it's Blade Fantasia?: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=681609
11:40 Product Line-up Introduction Stage Introduction of Capcoms latest apps. Plus, the reveal of an unannounced title. Featuring director Itsuno Hideaki.
It says they're showing multiple apps, and that Itsuno is there. However, it doesn't say the new title is Itsuno's game.
Mayhaps it's Blade Fantasia?: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=681609
Off-Kilter
Banned
Its probably Devil May Cry Touch if they're showing it off with their apps.
direct_quote
Member
But that was already announced right?
?
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
ITS ME, BLADE FANTASIA! IT WAS BLADE FANTASIA ALLL ALONGGGGGGG
Without writing up a big long thing...I hate this, and I hope that it's anything else than this.
But it won't be.
He's gonna rap about it on stage on the 22nd.
Actually, you may want to get your facts straight. PSASBR was a pre-DmC crossover game, used in order to hype of the release of DmC months later. They did the same thing with Raiden in Revengeance. And I certainly don't think that DmC Dante's inclusion helped with sales of that particular game.
DmC Dante has actually not made a single appearance since the release of DmC in February of this year. Classic Dante, however, has been seen in the following, all post-DmC:
Project X Zone
Capcom All-Stars
Newly released DMC4 Slot Machine in Japan
30th Anniversary Twitter Icons
Only four appearances, sure, but in only 8 months since the launch of DmC, that's plenty of exposure. Where AGAIN I say to you, DmC Dante has not been seen ONCE.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Project X Zone came out in Japan well before DmC was released.
It doesn't matter what he's talking about. His post is straight-up wrong because he's using a pre-release game as some barometer of internal popularity for the character post-release.
I'll give you that one, I suppose. It's still post-DmC exposure in the states, which was the target audience of the game to begin with.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I would like to get hyped but I'm scared.
...are you serious with this? Twitter icons and patchi-slot? Come on man, that's the biggest stretch yet.
Besides, we've already talked about the pluses and minuses of abandoning the DonteMayCry series, and the implications of crossovers in GAMES (not side stuff that Capcom is using to bring in a profit) and why old dante is in so many crossovers. Again, EIGHT MONTHS.
Don't get hype. You'll just end up hurt again.
THERE'S NOTHING IN DEVELOPMENT! WHY DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS?!?! You act like Dante was the bastion of transmedia when DMC3 and 4 came out.
You know where Donte is? IN HIS GAME! THAT CAME OUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO! Not in pachinko parlors where people don't give a SHIT that they're playing a DMC4 pachislot machine, as long as it's a pachislot machine.
Saying that the DMC4 pachislot machine is a sign of old Dante's virility is the same as saying that Crazy Taxi still has a long life and many games ahead of itself because it has a Vegas Slot machine. Just...NO. If anything, you should be more worried than EVER because of that thing.
And you, again, assert yourself with baseless conjecture.
Your argument was flawed from conception when the very first point you made about PSASBR was wrong.
Yep, he's sitting in a game that's littering the shelves and struggling in the current market.
Okay, you're not serious then. Gotcha.
Seriously, show me something TANGIBLE, MEANINGFUL, where old dante is prodominant. And again, don't bring up X Zone, that's not a capcom game it's a Bandai Game that started development at the dawn of DMC's original announcement. Don't bring up the Mobile trading card game that's a sequel to a GBA trading card game from 2005. Don't bring up Marvel that started production in 2009. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT STUFF.
Playstation all stars was a game projected to be massive. Capcom put Donte in that game as their REPRESENTATIVE. It doesn't matter if it was to garner favor for their upcoming game, THAT'S WHAT THEY USED TO REPRESENT THEIR COMPANY, so don't just shrug it off like, "man whatever...". That's like saying "Nintendo doesn't give a shit about Marth, don't pay attention to those DS Fire Emblem games, where's the WiiU game?"
What indication is there to show that Capcom still has an intention of doing something with old dante over new dante THAT CAPCOM IS DOING THEMSELVES AND NOT LETTING OTHER COMPANIES OR PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE FIRED HANDLE? That is the question.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
To be fair, pachislot and the Twitter icon promotion are for japan, where DmC and new dante were practically dead on arrival(I.E dmc's announcement)
If there was a console game targeted towards the west primarily like marvel 3 DmC dante appearing is a bit more likely(as in actually possible)
But only a bit.
Which is why I took this bet.
If there was a console game targeted towards the west primarily like marvel 3 DmC dante appearing is a bit more likely(as in actually possible)
But only a bit.
Which is why I took this bet.
To be fair, pachislot and the Twitter icon promotion are for japan, where DmC and new dante were practically dead on arrival(I.E dmc's announcement)
If there was a console game targeted towards the west primarily like marvel 3 DmC dante appearing is a bit more likely(as in actually possible)
But only a bit.
Which is why I took this bet.
I'm sorry, were you saying something. I...I was too busy staring at the queen.
To be fair, pachislot and the Twitter icon promotion are for japan, where DmC and new dante were practically dead on arrival(I.E dmc's announcement)
If there was a console game targeted towards the west primarily like marvel 3 DmC dante appearing is a bit more likely(as in actually possible)
But only a bit.
Which is why I took this bet.
I think both our arguments regarding it are sound, it's really up to Capcom to figure out what they want to do. I think if they wanna have a Devil May Cry game out within the next two years, It'll be Donte. Those assets are right there, ready to go, compatible with unreal engine 4 that's 12 months of development time already done. If they go back and make a new Itsuno based MTFramework 3.0 (probably 4.0 at this point) engine Devil May Cry, it's a full on 3-5 million dollar development cycle all over again, and Capcom ain't 'bout dat life anymore.
I think they'll try to squeeze every last dollar out of Donte that they can.
Dohoho. We'll see.
Good. I want DMC.
wastedyears
Member
I should be hoping that CVS3 or Devil May Cry 5 will be announced. But after being so disappointed by Blade Fantasia, now I'm just hoping it isn't more ios garbage.
You must have me confused with someone else. I never mentioned Marvel. Mentioning Marvel is as flawed of an argument as mentioning PSASBR.
Mentioning PSASBR is pointless because the game was nothing more than a marketing ploy for every third party entry. I'm sorry, but I don't find your argument compelling. No third party legitimately viewed PSASBR as a way to represent their company. This is true of Capcom, this is true of Konami, this is true of Take2, this is true of Bandai Namco, this is true of EA. And that's partly why it failed.
My main point is that you are wrong, and there has been no screen presence of DmC Dante since release. And you don't have a counterpoint to that. Maybe you will tomorrow.
I'm not ruling out Capcom putting Donte in a future crossover. They put dreadlock Spencer in Marvel, after all. It depends entirely on whether the game will be marketed towards the east or the west, and whether or not Capcom management has learned a goddamn thing these past few years while destroying their company's reputation.
Well duh, every crossover opertunity is a marketing opportunity. How is this marketing opportunity and the pachislot machine which is another marketing opportunity, any different? It's the crux of the argument. Capcom is putting Donte's face on cross promotional opportunities rather than old Dante's. That is exactly what we're talking about. Then you came in and gave a short list of other marketing opertunities, most of which originate from last year before DmC ever came out, and are saying that it's different.
Your point is that in the past 8 months, Dante has had a stronger marketing presence than Donte, which is FALSE. All the examples that you brought up are from projects originating from 2012 or earlier or are meaningless website filler (twitter icons? Seriously?). Whether DmC is flailing or not, there is no doubt that the strongest franchise presence for Capcom regarding anything Devil May Cry has had Donte's face on it.
And you have failed to refute that.
So I'm gonna drop something on you, and I haven't researched this very much, and I'm going off memory so bare with me, but:
When was the last time you saw old Dante on American television?
The last time I saw old Dante on American Television was during commercials for DMC4. Now why do I bring this up? Devil May Cry HD collection came out in March 2012. Capcom didn't see fit to engage with an American ad campaign that wasn't word of mouth, online or print. For a game that they had a physical disc release, Capcom decided to not actively advertise for old Dante using traditional methods. Between August of 2012, 5 months after the DMCHD collection was released, the marketing blitz for DmC began with trailer blitzes, interviews, a wide spread games press push, hell the new york times wrote a piece on it a month before the demo was released.
So what's my point? Even when there was a new Devil May Cry game on the market, HD remake collection or no, The marketing blitz for DmC was 10 times more pervasive than any attempts made to make the HD collection successful. So if you're trying to tell me Capcom is now suddenly having a change of heart and is pushing to make old Dante the face of the franchise again, you're going to have to go a lot deeper than a couple Capcom Unity made twitter icons and a Pachislot machine for a 6 year old game to be convincing.
Like someone in this thread said earlier, I think there's a better chance of Capcom killing the Devil May Cry franchise for good than there is scrapping all of those DmC assets and starting over from scratch. It doesn't make fiscal, promotional or long term sense to abandoned DmC, no matter how much vitriol the gaming community may have for it.
legacyzero
Banned
I would LOVE a new DmC!