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Ubisoft revises Watch Dog's PC specs (even more demanding ones, 6GB RAM minimum)

Sandfox

Member
You've have 7 years to upgrade. You knew this was coming. Irregardless of ubisofts optimization track record (which you can't even apply to this game beforehand) what will you all say when these specs become the norm or devs demand higher? Will you call them lazy too?

I don't agree with the "You've had 7 years to upgrade" thing because a PC from 7 years ago won't be running this game and even if someone upgraded this year they could just still barely be within the requirements if they went with an i5 build.
 

derExperte

Member
Yeah. RAM prices just arent going down. same with SSDs. Whts up with that?

I guess RAM manufacturers slowed down production enough so that supply is in line with demand again which it wasn't for years. And the memory chips used in SSDs haven't become much cheaper to produce and they're going to hit other technological walls over the next decade. Which also means the classic hard drives won't get replaced by SSDs like some have prematurely predicted.

I'd like to know which threads.

I avoid those parts of GAF nowadays but it was in the console war threads around the time of the PS4 reveal.
 
if it weren't for games I could run everything I need on tiny specs.
i'll leave my i53570k, not sure I can be assed with the expense again for very little benefit.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
I don't agree with the "You've had 7 years to upgrade" thing because a PC from 7 years ago won't be running this game and even if someone upgraded this year they could just still barely be within the requirements if they went with an i5 build.
My comment more or less meant you've have time to see how the state of development was changing and progressing over the past few years even if you weren't participating. You should have seen it tenfold if you were the ones complaining about how console gaming was holding PC gaming back. just as you've said, a PC from 7 years ago will not run a current gen game from today, so why would a PC built recently just to play current gen ports at a modest level be enough to run next gen console games? I mean the sentiments about people wanting to wait for cards to be released a year or two after next gen weren't without some kind of forethought.
 
I now deeply regret getting a 3570k. It's plenty they said, no game will need above that they said.

No half-measures on my next PC purchase.

I'm pretty sure the 3570k will be fine. It's well above even the revised minimum requirements of a Q8400. No one's sure what the Recommended specs refer to or how much better the graphics will be over the minimum specs--or even indeed if the minimum specs are actually ridiculous.
 
With those specs, next gen consoles may be struggling it seems. Any word on frame rate or IQ for the consoles? I'm thinking downgrades are coming if PC is the lead a platform.
 

Gbraga

Member
With those specs, next gen consoles may be struggling it seems. Any word on frame rate or IQ for the consoles? I'm thinking downgrades are coming if PC is the lead a platform.

30fps, resolution not yet defined, at least that's what I recall.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
Not sure about cheap. Prices almost doubled recently.

This my 2x4GB sticks I got recently are now double or near that. Ram is not cheap these days like hard drives they have had a price increase from what they were the past few years.
 

scoobs

Member
Should have just gone all-out and got a 6 core i7 : / Oh well, the 4770k should handle almost-ultra settings reasonbly well... maybe
 

lunchtoast

Member
I'm pretty sure the 3570k will be fine. It's well above even the revised minimum requirements of a Q8400. No one's sure what the Recommended specs refer to or how much better the graphics will be over the minimum specs--or even indeed if the minimum specs are actually ridiculous.

It's what I have and I built a new PC less than a year ago. It's run everything max so far so bring it on.
 

kudoboi

Member
That's some insane minimum requirements. But I'm glad they did it. Pc was held back for too long.
Glad I upgraded to 16GB RAM awhile back
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
Dang. My video card is a gtx 460. I barely meet the minimum.

The card is old. Not knocking as I have 560, which is basically a rebranded 460 unless you have the newer ones. The fact it's lasted this long with oc'ing is amazing but this is one of those game you gotta have something a little more new and beefy for.

Whether you wait for new nvidia or get something on sale it's good time to get a new GPU.

My i5-3570k isn't good enough?? D:

It should be more than fine especially if it's overclocked. If certain cpus we know that can perform like much better cpus don't we will know something is off with how the game is utilizing cpus.
 

iNvid02

Member
chucked in 16GB ram into my rig when it was dirt cheap, been really handy for everything but games but looks like this could be where things start to shift
 

cdkee

Banned
The feel of next gen.

This is going to be at least 900p on PS4 right? Please? If someone tells me 720p, preorder canceled.

too bad I can't because I preordered the Watch Dogs PS4 bundle
 
Scoff at console's paltry specs.

Complain when required specs PC specs are higher.

lol.


I've had 12 gigs of RAM for years now people. Come on, did you really think your 4 gigs installed in 09 were future proof?

Ask yourself how many games REQUIRE 6 gigs today? Then you've got the answer to your confusion. You can have 30 gigs of RAM if you want, but there is barely a game on the market today that needs more than 4.
 

MadSexual

Member
I just put a 3570k in my build last week! I'm dreading the benchmarks, but at the same time, that chart from the last thread had the stock 3570k outperforming the highest OCed AMD 8-core in recent BF4 benches. I want to hope.

Believe.
 
man i remember back in the day when i had to close all other programs before i play a game. now i have photoshop, thunderbird, 40 tabs of chrome open and i don't give a fuck.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
Ask yourself how many games REQUIRE 6 gigs today? Then you've got the answer to your confusion. You can have 30 gigs of RAM if you want, but there is barely a game on the market today that needs more than 4.

Then don't complain about consoles holding PC back, ever.
 

Dicear

Banned
I really hope they are bullshitting with the 8-core requirement for 'recommended' specs. I just upgraded to i5 4670k, and if this game runs significantly better (like 20-30% more frames) on an, for example, generally slightly less powerful AMD FX-8320, then it means I will have to sell all of it, go back to my old Phenom II and wait at least a year for some not too expensive Intel 8-core processors with decent single thread performance to come out (which I need because I want to use Dolphin and PCSX2)... That would really suck. I can't imagine how such a thing is possible since the PS4 and XB1 hardware is already significantly less powerful than a cheap i5 processor these days. But it would be really disappointing. Is it really possible that my new i5, even when it is OC'ed, will suck at this game simply because it doesn't have 8 cores?

I completely understand having an 8-core processor will be something that will be necessary in 3-4 years to meet the recommended specs, but now already, just at the beginning of a whole new generation, of a game that is also cross-gen?
 

MadSexual

Member
man i remember back in the day when i had to close all other programs before i play a game. now i have photoshop, thunderbird, 40 tabs of chrome open and i don't give a fuck.
Haha, I still do this out of habit after all those years. I played a mid-gen game last night and had to remind myself that it was okay to leave the pdf I was reading open. =)
 

KKRT00

Member
man i remember back in the day when i had to close all other programs before i play a game. now i have photoshop, thunderbird, 40 tabs of chrome open and i don't give a fuck.

I still turn off some stuff when i play online and need stable 60fps just to be sure, in SP though? Nope :)
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Sorry for being a bit off-topic, but, I'm buying a laptop soon, say I want to play some next gen games on it, even if it's in low or mid settings, what mobile GPU could handle this game?

GTX 770M if you want to be comfortable.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
I really hope they are bullshitting with the 8-core requirement for 'recommended' specs. I just upgraded to i5 4670k, and if this game runs significantly better (like 20-30% more frames) on an, for example, generally slightly less powerful AMD FX-8320, then it means I will have to sell all of it, go back to my old Phenom II and wait at least a year for some not too expensive Intel 8-core processors with decent single thread performance to come out (which I need because I want to use Dolphin and PCSX2)... That would really suck. I can't imagine how such a thing is possible since the PS4 and XB1 hardware is already significantly less powerful than a cheap i5 processor these days. But it would be really disappointing. Is it really possible that my new i5, even when it is OC'ed, will suck at this game simply because it doesn't have 8 cores?

I completely understand having an 8-core processor will be something that will be necessary in 3-4 years to meet the recommended specs, but now already, just at the beginning of a whole new generation, of a game that is also cross-gen?

This game is being made with next gen consoles in mind. Apparently the current gen ports aren't even being developed by the core team.
 

Durante

Member
man i remember back in the day when i had to close all other programs before i play a game. now i have photoshop, thunderbird, 40 tabs of chrome open and i don't give a fuck.
I've actually kept games running while starting other (usually MP) games.

I really hope they are bullshitting with the 8-core requirement for 'recommended' specs. I just upgraded to i5 4670k, and if this game runs significantly better (like 20-30% more frames) on an, for example, generally slightly less powerful AMD FX-8320
This is very unlikely.
 

Tablo

Member
I really hope they are bullshitting with the 8-core requirement for 'recommended' specs. I just upgraded to i5 4670k, and if this game runs significantly better (like 20-30% more frames) on an, for example, generally slightly less powerful AMD FX-8320, then it means I will have to sell all of it, go back to my old Phenom II and wait at least a year for some not too expensive Intel 8-core processors with decent single thread performance to come out (which I need because I want to use Dolphin and PCSX2)... That would really suck. I can't imagine how such a thing is possible since the PS4 and XB1 hardware is already significantly less powerful than a cheap i5 processor these days. But it would be really disappointing. Is it really possible that my new i5, even when it is OC'ed, will suck at this game simply because it doesn't have 8 cores?

I completely understand having an 8-core processor will be something that will be necessary in 3-4 years to meet the recommended specs, but now already, just at the beginning of a whole new generation, of a game that is also cross-gen?

Well I wouldn't worry too much about the performance of your 4670K, especially if overclocked to 4.2+ ghz. I am curious to see how much better a 4770K might perform later down the road though.
 
I can already imagine what kind of gastly rig is required to run GTA5 on pc with all the bells turned up. Just playing it on ps3 you can see that they did all kinds of witchcraft optimization which is gonna be different on pc.

gonna be fun.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
Things have been too status quo for too long on pc. Ya'll got comfortable.

He changed the icon now I gotta get use to it.

Some people got comfortable. I'm always diligent since I hate spending excessive money on pc parts. Gotta have money for my arcade sticks and other accessories.

People should've expected this coming new gen and new specs are always in the works. If this is the griping we see now next 2 years should be something quite funny till hardware can brute force things again.

chickdigger802 rockstar and pc optimization is generally shit when it comes to gta. Outside of VC and San andreas it's been more of a mix bag especially 4 and 3 on pcs.
 

rjc571

Banned
More accurate thread title: PC version of Watch Dogs has a memory leak, Ubisoft doesn't know how to fix it.
 

SalomonA

Member
You've have 7 years to upgrade. You knew this was coming. Irregardless of ubisofts optimization track record (which you can't even apply to this game beforehand) what will you all say when these specs become the norm or devs demand higher? Will you call them lazy too?
Well I'll just by some more ram, but instead of releasing a game targeted at 700-1000$ builds (let's face it, to even get the minimum requirements you have to pay atleast 600-700$), why not target it for a bigger price range? Like, if I were to buy a 500$ PC today I should be able to play the newest games on minimum specs. Thats not really the case here I'm afraid. (Okay maybe it works if you don't meet the minimum reqs, but we don't know that)
 
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