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[Muppet of a Man]

Just get the console with the exclusives you like unless multiplatform games are your thing. PS4 is the obvious choice in that instance, much like the x360 was for his past generation.

 

[Deadbeat]

Third console curse.

 

[LiK]

XBOne Version of NBA 2K14 Missing From Blowout Press Event, Confirmed Native 1080p/60

Thanks

 

[Ricerocket]

See, CBOAT isn't all doom & gloom.

And 720-900p will be the norm for launch, right? Not the for the life of the XBO?

That's another issue with the amount of eSRAM. 32MB might be a limitation on what they can do at 1080p which is why people are insisting 720-900p is the goal res of X1.

 

[Zombie James]

It's more difficult to work with and get the same performance out of, is how I interpret it.

Developers will get better at using it.

But it will never change the fundamental hardware disparity.

As in devs don't know how to benefit from it yet but they will eventually, this was expected but it's still bad form for MS just like the cell was for Sony

In laymans terms it's a pain in the ass to code for.

I would assume until devs had had time to really work their engines around the way ESRAM actually works, to fully utilize the bandwidth it offers, it would result in the Xbox One versions being on the short end. It's expected. Hopefully it doesn't take too long though for this hurdle to go away.

It's not GDDR5, it's more difficult to work with compared to the more straightforward and faster PS4 memory architecture.

Oh, ok. I thought he was referring to the ESRAM being technologically handicapped in some way, like Sony had to disable an SPU to improve yields.

 

[Foxix Von]

It was a pain seeing the PS3 struggles early in its lifetime. I suspect X1 will be the same way.

Well... not exactly. The cell was stupid hard to utilize but if done properly you would see benefits above and beyond what was capable on competing hardware platforms. Even if devs become total masters of their domain with the esram and a magical work around is found, it's still going to underperform relative to the competition.

 

[ViciousDS]

See, CBOAT isn't all doom & gloom.

And 720-900p will be the norm for launch, right? Not the for the life of the XBO?

hes talking the entire generation it will be normal for 720p-900p for the Xbox One

 

[Dead]

Friend flesh

 

[K.Sabot]

So they're basically in the Cell processor situation, but will still end up being inferior.

 

[GetemMa]

See, CBOAT isn't all doom & gloom.

And 720-900p will be the norm for launch, right? Not the for the life of the XBO?

For life. Xbone is a 720 to 900p machine. Time to get over it.

Hardware power is always behind though. Never changing without a complete hardware update. 900-720p will be the norm. The games will be good though, and that's what matters. They'll just struggle more to work on the Xbox One.

 

[Kajiba]

If the games look good and play good. I'll be happy.

 

[Replicant]

CBoat has been caught by MS, Major Nelson using his account now.

My first thought. SAEV CBOAT!!!

Edit: So it's up to MS' 1st party to show other devs the rope.

 

[Cru]

Has anyone other than Proelite mentioned OS crashes and freezes? That sounds nasty but I haven't heard it gaining steam among the insiders like the usual big rumors do.

I was curious about this as well. I don't recall cboat mentioning this.

 

[Spongebob]

Has anyone other than Proelite mentioned OS crashes and freezes? That sounds nasty but I haven't heard it gaining steam among the insiders like the usual big rumors do.

I wouldn't put much credence in what Proelite posts.

 

[WealthyGadabout]

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[Darknight]

Thanx for translation since I dont know Buttanese.

Anyways this is what I figured. XB1 development will get better than these launch window games since by then devs will have more knowledge. I think Acti/IW/Treyarch will get COD NEXT at 1080P/60FPS on XB1 next holiday season.

 

[rdrr gnr]

If there is a workaround -- why would games still be 720p/900p?

 

[Wynnebeck]

Good to hear for the Xbone chaps. Not all stormy weather

 

[ZedIndyLil]

NBA thread?

My thoughts ezzackly. WTF?

Edit: ah NBA2k14, makes more sense.

 

[Can Crusher]

Sucks that MS thought giving less power to developers and making it harder to take advantage off, was a good idea.

 

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[Mr.Speedy]

So this pretty much confirms what I've been expecting. Dev tools and timelines have been a pretty big hindrance for launch games. It will take some time for developers to figure out exactly how to utilize the tools/APIs/whatever but once they do 900p should be the norm. Of course it's quite obvious that the PS4 will be the lead platform and will have better visuals but I don't think the X1 will be lagging very far behind in third party titles.

 

[Nightengale]

Weak cboat post.

It's a post of bros and love from a buttock to a flash, its not meant for #truthfact.

Unless you want Flash to be even more depressed, by having to be layeth the smackdown like what Albert got.

 

[shinra-bansho]

snip

Wtf.

 

[Codeblew]

It was a pain seeing the PS3 struggles early in its lifetime. I suspect X1 will be the same way.

The difference is that the PS3 was equal or even slightly more powerful once devs learned how to use the cell. The XBox720p will always be less powerful than the PS4.

 

[Bgamer90]

After all of the sub-HD games we got this gen, I expected many games to be 720p/60 FPS this upcoming gen (before both consoles were revealed) so this doesn't really surprise me if it's true.

 

[Gaz_RB]

If the games look good and play good. I'll be happy.

That is truly how it should be.

 

[klee123]

See, CBOAT isn't all doom & gloom.

And 720-900p will be the norm for launch, right? Not the for the life of the XBO?

Considering how this gen played out, it'll only get worse as games get more and more demanding.

 

[vpance]

That's another issue with the amount of eSRAM. 32MB might be a limitation on what they can do at 1080p which is why people are insisting 720-900p is the goal res of X1.

16 ROPS also makes 1080p difficult. The system just wasn't designed for achieving a significant graphical bump AND 1080p at the same time.

 

[nictron]

CBOAT just got an early Christmas present from Microsoft

Spoiler

I kid, it's good to see he is about truf and not biased

 

[koutoru]

I wonder what people will think of 900p resolution in 2018? Anyways, always good to hear positive news about Xbox One.

 

[CambriaRising]

Wtf.

Post history.

 

[artist]

Moneyhat or CBOAT never says anything positive for Xbone right? Right!

 

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[family_guy]

On the bright side you can Skype with Grandma and switch instantly to the Price is Right.

 

[Pandemic]

So the Xbox One still has a chance?

 

[ViciousDS]

On the bright side you can Skype with Grandma and switch instantly to the Price is Right.

if you have gold for xbox live

 

[CTLance]

Those are not CBOAT leaks, just common sense. ... Ah whatever, I'll take it. Serenade us with your wisdom, CBOAT. We're listening.

 

[nictron]

On the bright side you can Skype with Grandma and switch instantly to the Price is Right.

Only if you have gold.

football

 

[Can Crusher]

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[Spongebob]

After all of the sub-HD games we got this gen, I expected many games to be 720p/60 FPS this upcoming gen (before both consoles were revealed) so this doesn't really surprise me if it's true.

Yah, for the XB1. It looks like 1080p will be common for the PS4.

32ROPS and GDDR5 aren't there for nothing.

 

[The Maverick]

After all of the sub-HD games we got this gen, I expected many games to be 720p/60 FPS this upcoming gen (before both consoles were revealed) so this doesn't really surprise me if it's true.

Oh, games will still be 720p/60 FPS. Just on the weaker platforms.

 

[neptunes]

I wonder what people will think of 900p resolution in 2018? Anyways, always good to hear positive news about Xbox One.

The same way they'll think of 10080p by then, old and stale?

 

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Are you feeling okay?

 

[Bgamer90]

I wonder what people will think of 900p resolution in 2018? Anyways, always good to hear positive news about Xbox One.

Are people enjoying COD on current gen consoles in 2013?

 

[maximum360]

That's another issue with the amount of eSRAM. 32MB might be a limitation on what they can do at 1080p which is why people are insisting 720-900p is the goal res of X1.

I hope at least 900p is the norm. Hopefully there won't be too much lost in upscaling to 1080p.

 

[Glorified G]

Is it? Hardware is still worse, but will get better. Everybody already knew this.

Well, cboat didn't drop a bomb that would make this thread reach 100 pages and eventually locked. It's a close to good news your gonna get.

 

[nictron]

Are people enjoying COD on current gen consoles in 2013?

No

 

[StreetDisciple]

Well... not exactly. The cell was stupid hard to utilize but if done properly you would see benefits above and beyond what was capable on competing hardware platforms. Even if devs become total masters of their domain with the esram and a magical work around is found, it's still going to underperform relative to the competition.

Your reading too much into my post. I'm just saying X1 will get better just like PS3 did when developers get more familiar. Never said it would be better than PS4.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Weak cboat post.

Even CBOAT likes to relax sometimes, it's been a crazy 2 days in the valley.