The reason the resolution is lower is that frame buffers just straight up more space at higher resolution, and when you only have 32 MB, you have to make sacrifices if you want to load more stuff into the eSRAM.
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CBOAT: ESRAM handicap for now, but will get better
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The reason the resolution is lower is that frame buffers just straight up more space at higher resolution, and when you only have 32 MB, you have to make sacrifices if you want to load more stuff into the eSRAM.
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travisbickle
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He said this in the NBA thread? "games will be normally 720-900p" in a thread where 1080p has been "confirmed" for the One.
It probably will be. I'm guessing he mentioned 720p since not all games will be 1080p on PS4 either. I could see 1080/900 and 900/720 becoming common.
Cornbread78
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No bombs dropped, just more confirms... back to the Red Sox now...
Muppet of a Man
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MS thought reasonable power relative to their nearest competitor plus a cheap BOM and guaranteed 8 GB RAM was profitable with a high value prop. They just got outsmarted by Sony who took a risk with the 8 GB GDDR5 RAM, simpler more developer friendly system architecture, and better GPU.
My apologies. A bit of a force of habit given some of the other similar posts and the nature of the forum.
What in the living fuck?
Also ESRAM really reminds me of the cell.
LiquidSolid
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Microsoft have already done that. They disabled 2 CUs to improve yields.
What exactly is a living fuck?
Nightengale
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If sports games can't hit 1080p on a next-gen console, it may as well kill itself.
It is one of the few genres where no one is concerned about graphical compromise.
He was responding to a question I had in the NBA thread.
I guess in Cboat talk I would be called "Teh Flesh, Da Fatset Mah Arive"
I never thought I would see the day....obviously he is not
WealthyGadabout
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(Today, 10:15 PM)
OT:I honestly can't wait for both systems to be fully dissected when released to figure out the hard numbers on the consoles.
Dead Prince
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a whore
this is the correct attitude - no straight denial of the discrepancy but happy nonetheless
My favorite kind.
Haha glad someone caught that.
KoopaTheCasual
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I wonder how GAF is going to react when we see the first 900p game in the PS4's lifetime? Yes, it's a machine primed for 1080p, but don't game resolutions tend to drop over a console's lifetime as devs try to push visuals to their peak?
Just wanna throw that out there so people are prepared for the inevitable day. 1080 will always be the norm, tho.
Just wanna throw that out there so people are prepared for the inevitable day. 1080 will always be the norm, tho.
We might see that with BF4.
I'm ok with that tradeoff in the future when the consoles are being pushed to their limits, but right now I wouldn't be content with 900p
Codeblew
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We haven't seen any xbox footage of the game yet so we don't know what sacrifices they made to get the game to 1080p/60.
what was Quantic Dream's tech demo resolution?
Because if they can pull that much off in real time at 1080p....I can only imagine how ridiculous there games would look at 900p in terms of detail, sure it wouldn't be as clear native wise but damn there would be so much to take in.
Fast forward to 2016
X-Box One Point Five - Now with all those things you were expecting
-No Disc Drive
-One Thousand and Eighty Pees
-That clock that you were asking for because the front of the black box was wasted space
-Limited X-Box One backwards compatibility, because you only play those games that come out once a year anyway
X-Box One Point Five - Now with all those things you were expecting
-No Disc Drive
-One Thousand and Eighty Pees
-That clock that you were asking for because the front of the black box was wasted space
-Limited X-Box One backwards compatibility, because you only play those games that come out once a year anyway
Keyword: Normally
I mean it doesn't really contradict what he said. If i remember correctly some of the only 1080p games last gen were basketball games. They're fairly small scale compared to most games.
Whipped Spartan
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This is so true. LOL N4g is better this gen then last because I feel like it's a meta game in its self to watch GAF make headlines left and right.
So 90% of PS4 games will run at 1080p native whereas 90% of Xbox One games will be at 720/900p native the whole gen? Including third party games?
That's huge... I never thought it would be possible, there will be huge differences between the same game running at 1080p on one hand, and at 720p on the other and.
That's huge... I never thought it would be possible, there will be huge differences between the same game running at 1080p on one hand, and at 720p on the other and.
family_guy
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Any of these games can be 1080p but then they would have to reduce the graphical effects.
NoMoreTrolls
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No one
someone
Sub 1080p will certainly happen on PS4. You can take that to the bank.
SwiftDeath
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So this is why the NBA thread went quiet
Personally I find it hard to believe those percentages will be right. More like 70/20 would be my guess out of my ass.
shinra-bansho
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Battlefield will probably be that at launch.
I really don't think everybody is expecting everything to be 1080p. If they are, they're going to be disappointed. There'll be 900p games. There'll be 720p games on the PS4 too, depending on what other priorities the developer may have. But I'm personally expecting 900-1080p to be the norm on the PS4.
Given the exact same game, with the same visual fidelity, people should always prefer the higher resolution though.
And the PS4 having more hardware grunt will hopefully mean developers can realise their vision without having to sacrifice resolution and framerate as often or as much.
And something like COD Ghosts ending up being 720p, if that is the case, is somewhat shocking though considering how poor it looks next to other next gen games.
And that got me thinking yesterday about Sony's kerfuffle circa 2006. If Sony can recover from "$599" and "Giant Enemy Crabs" and get to where they are now, then I'd imagine MS could do something similar. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen but, you know, anything's possible. Naïve hope and what not.
For some reason I could not put 1 and 1 together. Haha
Maybe now whiny fanboys will shut up about cboat only saying negative things about the xbone.
Well I don't see why it would improve as games get more visually complex. PS4 games will probably drop below 1080p down the line as well.
Well I don't see why it would improve as games get more visually complex. PS4 games will probably drop below 1080p down the line as well.
Pristine_Condition
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Except PS3's hardware advantages (dat Cell power) were eventually exploited to its advantage and to compensate for its weaknesses (the non-unified memory pools and the seeker GPU.)
Conversely, CBOAT is saying the XBone's gimped hardware will ALWAYS be behind the PS4.
So yeah, development will get better/easier on XBone, but it will never make up for the obvious deficit in raw power.
BurnOutBrighter
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Reluctant-Hero
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Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuu. That is insane! You'd think that by the time second and third gen games arrive, devs will have figured out how to work at least 1080p 30fps on every XBO game.
Wishmaster92
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lol yeah.
Codeblew
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And, I will not buy their games. I am so sick of blurry upscaled games. There is no excuse to have sub 1080p on the PS4.
