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[everyday math]

Ps4 version looks a lot better.

 

[Kyon]

WaaaaaiT @ the just recent DF EXPOSURE


YYYAAAAAASSSSSS

 

[BeEatNU]

fucking this!

Look at those jaggies on XO

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

In summary:

 

[cdkee]

When these get blown up on your TV the difference will be more pronounced.

If I run a game windowed on my 1080p monitor at 720p, it looks better than if I play full screen at 720p.

 

[Tsundere]

Maybe he's just pointing out how silly the reviewer is.

...maybe.

Is the multiplayer also 900p?

 

[DangerMouse]

Seriously, dat over sharpening and crushed blacks on the X1.

It's like when you go into a TV store and you see 2 TVs side by side with one that has the saturation and sharpness turned up to the max.

Looks terrible. And at 720p, all you're doing is emphasizing those fucking jaggies.

This. And it's amazing DF still has their equipment set up where it incorrectly is still washing out the colors on Playstation footage.

And look at those jagges on the copter scene. The PS4 version is much smoother.

 

[Apocryphon]

Judging by the footage from Jackfrags, the DF comparisons seem way off. They had so e technical issues with the captures?

 

[Pain]

Someone needs to talk to yosp

He's quoting the review though so the reviewer must not understand the different between native and upscaled.

 

[Wildarmsjecht]

http://i.minus.com/ib0gOrDzD8ScKG.gif

....
...
.....The X1 version is totally different...

That's a clear difference...easy to see which looks better.

 

[I-hate-u]

Alright here we go.

Here is the Jack upload vs. the DF upload screens

Top is the DF video, you can see the crushed blacks

Bottom is the Jack upload, same scene you can see the difference in the wheel black

DF did it on purpose from what I see

Wait wait, DF doctored the footage?!?!??! THEFUQ???

 

[Ricerocket]

Hey guys, look what I did. I upped the contrast, saturation, and sharpening of the PS4 image, and now it has all the colors you crave. You can do this on your TV (it has settings for these things):

What I am saying is, it is silly to say the PS4 version looks worse because of the oversaturation, over sharpened and contrasted filter of the XB1 version. TVs can make your PS4 version look like that. And then all that's left is to compare the other things, that your TV can't fix: resolution, and framerate, both of which the PS4 version is superior in.

It's not recommended to usually put on Black level to low on TV though but yeah... X1 is artificially "enhanced"

 

[Black Republican]

Someone needs to talk to yosp

Lmao

 

[RoboPlato]

I can't believe the same tactics used to sell LCDs in showrooms (overblown contrast and cranked sharpness) are working here. When you have it in person, on your TV properly adjusted, the difference will be pretty damn big.

Excellent comparison. Are there more of these shots?

 

[REV 09]

i see the usual witch-hunt has already started.

 

[Mifune]

I think the two console versions look almost identical. There's some weird shimmering on the ground next to the wounded soldier in the XB1 version and more aliasing but it's much closer than I expected.

 

[Cmerrill]

I'm watching the "Jack Frags" videos and the PS4 version looks better than what I just watched on the DF videos. WTF is going on here? Is DF intentionally fucking up the comparison?

 

[Neuromancer]

The difference is pretty shocking honestly.

 

[darkwing]

Alright here we go.

Here is the Jack upload vs. the DF upload screens

Top is the DF video, you can see the crushed blacks

Bottom is the Jack upload, same scene you can see the difference in the wheel black

DF did it on purpose from what I see

dat DF effect

 

[MoeB]

No Yosp NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

To be fair the article actually says 1080p in the body.

 

[disastermouse]

OK, I laughed a little hard and woke my wife up, thanks.

Yep. Bass bleeding into mids, treble missing in action. HifiMan HE-500s here.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Alright here we go.

Here is the Jack upload vs. the DF upload screens

Top is the DF video, you can see the crushed blacks

Bottom is the Jack upload, same scene you can see the difference in the wheel black

DF did it on purpose from what I see

Yeah. If you are watching the stuff on JackFrags' Youtube, it's starting to look like Digital Foundry did SOMETHING to the videos. (And I think it's painfully obvious to anyone who works with imaging for a living what that is...)

I highly recommend looking at Jack's videos rather than DF's bullshit.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jackfrags/videos

Don't know why the JackFrags thread was locked.

 

[crozier]

So forget the image comparisons for a second:

Given the difference in resolution and a few extra effects turned on, what's a realistic guesstimate of how much of a performance advantage the PS4 has over the X1? 40%? Less? More?

 

[Stimpack]

The amount of people who obviously don't know what they're looking at is staggering. The Xbox version looks rather terrible in comparison.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

Seems like the XB1 version is missing lighting.

Framerate seems really good on both.

Were we watching the same multiplayer videos?
Framerate dropped from 60 to 32. Looks horrid. It was all over the place.

 

[Tesseract]

ps4 is pretty obviously the superior port. i'm kinda surprised xbone lacks sufficient ao given the res and aa constraints, but whatevers.

 

[Wario64]

 

[Dreamgazer]

I feel like a new thread should be made for the jackfrags vids.
The differences are night and day...

The DF videos don't really deserve the attention.

 

[gigantor21]

...on second thought, looking at the non-DF videos, the difference is actually quite stark. Why the fuck did they do that to the Xone footage?

 

[TheD]

Despite DF insisting how superior the PS4 version was, all I saw from the images AND videos was that the XB1 version was the better looking one(too dark though). Shaper looking textures, slightly more vibrant colors, and overall notably less blurry. Well ain't that something...

I do see that peoples' fetish for raw numbers are clouding their judgement a bit. I scoffed at people who were hoping for PS4 to have some huge visual advantage, but didn't expect this. I will have to see even higher quality comparisons, but as it stands right now, the XB1 version gets my nod.

No, that is your bias!

Just because the XB1 version has fucked up contrast does not make it better!

 

[killertofu]

Am I blind or...I mean...they both look fine?

 

[FDC1]

Looks like some assets look better at short distance on X1 version but the farest you go, the bigger the advantage of the PS4 version is.

 

[-GOUKI-]

Despite the crushing blacks and higher contrast, Xbox One manages to somehow lose the shadows....

No I think the Xbox1 is using the weaker ssao instead of hbao on ps4 and pc. The way the shadows are not showing up at the arms..

 

[Derrick01]

Why are some people angry?

It's frustrating that MS and/or Dice's trick to hide the massive flaws of the XB1 version is working on a lot of people here. It's pretty disingenuous of them to even try this stunt like no one would notice.

Frankly I'm disgusted at how many on here have been fooled by it already. Look at some of those pics, you can't even see the damn gun in the XB1 version.

 

[Creaking]

oh wow, really big differences here. PS4 version is looking much better.

Apparently the different platforms have differing opinions on which camouflage is best suited for your mission.

 

[Zombie James]

Thanks to Wario for this. Ugh, what a mess.

 

[Tallshortman]

Wow those jaggies on the xbone version look disgusting, and I'm someone who can actually get through games without the best AA and am not super sharp at finding jaggies on PC.

 

[aronmayo2]

am i fucking high? the xbox looks better

Better textures. Worse aliasing (due to resolution) and framerate. It looks ALOT more crisp though.

 

[Kacho]

Someone needs to talk to yosp

Oh yosp...lol

 

[SRTtoZ]

Look at the amount of detail you lose in the XB1 version. Where did the clouds go? What happened to his face? Do people not notice this stuff? I'm really disappointed that DF have their black levels set like that. I bought a Samsung LCD TV once that had the worst blacks, way too dark and you couldnt see any detail, so I returned it.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

I seriously doubt just upping the sharpness on your TV is going to make this guy's head in the XB1 version look like the PS4 version:

There's clearly some fancy upscaling thing going on inside X1. Raising the sharpness on our TVs isn't going to close that gap. I don't care how it's done, like this person said:

Should i care that it is "artificially sharp"? Serious question. I mean, it looks how it looks. And it looks pretty ok to me

Sharpness filter, crushed blacks, sneaky upscaling, whatever the case the end result is all that matters and the textures in the X1 version looks sharper, crisper, and more detailed. Just look at that guy's head. I rather have had Sony go down to 720p if it meant they could get sharper textures.

P.S. Implying people are biased because they think the X1 version looks better is pretty pathetic. I don't even have an X1 pre-ordered, but I've had my PS4 pre-ordered since 20 mins after they opened it on Amazon.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Superior naps confirmed for Microsoft. It's not even a debate.

Some of the screens in the OP I definitely prefer the XO version, but I prefer the PS3 version for most.

 

[AgentP]

FYI destroying the artists work with black crush and artificial sharpness is not a good thing, you can jack that up with your TV settings to make it better or worse, but you can't add 50% more pixels with your TV calibration.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Clouds missing on Xbone!

 

[SirMossyBloke]

I'm happy about the ps4 version basically looking like the PC set to high. At least according to Eurogamer. Minus a drop in resolution and a few effects of course, but it's closer than I thought it would be.

 

[FeiRR]

Human eyes can spot them jaggies.

But honestly, who's going to be looking downrange for subtle details and movement in a game like this?

People who try to spot their enemies.

DF joined the Microsoft PR circle a while ago, it's just the beginning of their antics.

 

[GoodCoffeeJoey]

Xbox 720 lol.

The graphical difference is starting to pretty similar to the PS2 vs the orignal Xbox.

 

[graywolf323]

Alright here we go.

Here is the Jack upload vs. the DF upload screens

Top is the DF video, you can see the crushed blacks

Bottom is the Jack upload, same scene you can see the difference in the wheel black

DF did it on purpose from what I see

that's pretty damning

 

[Dega]

In summary:

lol Pretty much.

 

[Venturer]

Alright here we go.

Here is the Jack upload vs. the DF upload screens

Top is the DF video, you can see the crushed blacks

Bottom is the Jack upload, same scene you can see the difference in the wheel black

DF did it on purpose from what I see

DF pulling some bullshit here.