SwiftDeath
Member
Guys at videogamer allude to exactly that
Footage was captured at a controlled preview event
They ended up tweaking the contrast on the PS4 because of it
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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Guys at videogamer allude to exactly that
Footage was captured at a controlled preview event
They ended up tweaking the contrast on the PS4 because of it
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I think the close up comparison is for the gif's color spectrum limitations. You lose too much detail putting the whole image into gif format.
GoofsterStud
Member
Because they didn't calibrate the game. They knew the comparison wasn't fair and went through with it.
It's defeats the purpose of the video.
Muppet of a Man
Member
Maybe you should actually watch a video instead of just looking at a static picture? Unless you really enjoy crushed blacks and over sharpening in those images.
If you want a baseline for how the game should look in its ideal state, look at a vid running the pc code.
You will immediately notice that the ps4 looks very close, while x1 does not.
Meus Renaissance
Member
I'm not denying the PS4 technically looks better, but we're at the point that we have to zoom into frames to often illustrate these differences - differences that are in many cases, arguably, more subtle than early PS3/360 comparisons.
I can understand why hardcore gamers may find these comparisons hugely significant, and even worrisome, but to the millions of BF gamers on both platforms, surely they'll be happy with their versions? I don't see anything here to be "worried" about. Yes, we know the XO is underpowered - we expected differences. But we've lately come to expect dramatic differences.
I don't see dramatic differences.
Tellingly enough, when people watched the video first-go, there was a split in terms of which version looked better. That was the first impression and I think that is ultimately more important than frame by frame comparisons
I can understand why hardcore gamers may find these comparisons hugely significant, and even worrisome, but to the millions of BF gamers on both platforms, surely they'll be happy with their versions? I don't see anything here to be "worried" about. Yes, we know the XO is underpowered - we expected differences. But we've lately come to expect dramatic differences.
I don't see dramatic differences.
Tellingly enough, when people watched the video first-go, there was a split in terms of which version looked better. That was the first impression and I think that is ultimately more important than frame by frame comparisons
Wishmaster92
Member
Pseudo judo
Member
That's not true. They basically said Sony dropped the ball and that by every metric they should have the better looking game but when scaling to 1080P from 900P Sony's solution downgrades the textures giving X1 the advantage.
dynamitejim
Member
After watching a bunch of videos of the PS4 version...it looks pretty respectable. It doesn't have the 1:1 sharpness of full 1080p, but there's no noticeable edge aliasing. The only real aliasing is on sub-pixel/thin geometry like telephone wires or the bars on a prison cell. OTOH, the XB1 version still has lots of jaggies along edges and just looks very grainy overall.
I doubt the average family or gamer will see the difference between Xbone or 360 versions either. That has always been the case. This isnt a thread for that though (impact of IQ on casual audience and how it will effect sales).So, in all fairness.. and trying to be as objective as possible...
Do you guys think that the average family or average gamer would notice the difference between these two?
Here at GAF, we have master pixel-peepers with falcon eyes, so obviously people see the difference... right?
But also.. people see what they are told they are seeing, like the whole RYSE debacle.. (people thought first it was 1080p and everyone believed it but when it turned out it was 900p, then suddenly everyone "saw" it .....)
The MUCH MUCH bigger difference that EVERYONE will notice is the 100 dollar extra price tag and up till this point, MS has not done a good job convincing people about Kinect2, even though it is a far more advanced tech in it.
Basically, if MS would put them selves at 299 and call it a day, these gfx difference will not matter at all, everyone would say stuff like "yeah but at least it is cheaper".
That is what bothers people at NeoGaf the most, why someone has to pay more for less gfx fidelity. If Xbox One would be lower priced than PS4, everyone would swallow the difference like a bukkake show or something similar and then we could go on arguing about games games games..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9RCbkZc7w
This XB1 vs PC vid shows some interesting stuff.
Like how when you crash the chopper from the car the XB1 has less particle effects and less grass when you crash.
The part with the carrier breaking in two also shows a ton of microstutter on the XB1.
This XB1 vs PC vid shows some interesting stuff.
Like how when you crash the chopper from the car the XB1 has less particle effects and less grass when you crash.
The part with the carrier breaking in two also shows a ton of microstutter on the XB1.
DangerMouse
Member
Totally about agenda...
It's not like there isn't a PC version or anything showing how the colors and lighting are supposed to look.
Because they're sharper due to lack of AA. Watch the videos to see the results of more AA besides the softening of the image, it also results in the jaggy mess being less visible.
It's randomized camo, nothing to do with texture detail.
Except it's not necessary. Just some people are adamant.
The amount of aliasing and shimmering in the XB1 version is immediately noticeable when watching any of the videos posted in this thread.
HORRORSHØW
Member
has a Shadowfall quality to it.need those xbone colors, man
Sutton Dagger
Member
I can almost guarantee that they're using FXAA on the PS4 version, which is part of the reason you see less aliasing compared to the XB1 version. FXAA may be an effective and cheap form of AA, but it destroys IQ by introducing what is commonly referred to as the 'vaseline filter'. God I hate FXAA, very few games can get away with it.
Black Republican
Member
i guess wait till BF5 for a better SP experience?
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
I see what you did there.
X1 looks great to me too. They both do. My worries are gone now from all the "games will look way different at launch" talk. Give it a couple years, then maybe. But right now, we're in for some great gaming on both consoles at launch.
yet when you read the articles...written by the guys that played the game live...they ALL come to the same conclusion...one is significantly better than the other....
This one too. It's fine on the pc version..Strange
It's over sharpening. It has nothing to do with textures.
It's like watching a DVD, increasing your sharpness to 100 on your TV, and thinking you're getting a Blu-Ray quality picture.
scoobs
Member
Hmmm something doesn't add up here guys
I realize you're not serious, but both the black and white levels are crushed. It's just that the crushing of shadow detail has a greater visual impact.
NullPointer
Member
I don't think anybody should worry if nothing here stands out to them, but for my eyes the difference in aliasing is dramatic.
Good thing most games will be 1080p then!
lol are you serious? Of course it will run better on your hardware.
SRTtoZ
Member
With the krauthammer avatar this is the perfect post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2nyFZdr1k&feature=c4-overview&list=UUw7FkXsC00lH2v2yB5LQoYA
Game looks fucking awesome in this video.
Game looks fucking awesome in this video.
LOL, I find it funny that the Xbone version is missing the clouds.
EmptySpace
Banned
people aren't going to read the article and would just watch the video with the adjusted black levels.
BadAss2961
Member
This is where the XB1 really falls apart. Those jaggies.Thats Resistance 3 AA.
They are definitely labeled right if PS4 has a higher res. You can tell when looking at edges, especially thin stuff in the distance, PS4 is rendering more pixels. I would chalk up the crispness of XO overall image, textures, etc. to being a different, sharper filtering algorithm. On top of some different color post processing, cranked saturation and contrast on the XO version (if not being applied somewhere else down the line).
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I doubt he would be able to run BF4 on ultra at near constant 60FPS on 7870. That's the thing here, Dice has put a big emphasis on framerate.
Dreams-Visions
Member
You can crush whites. You lose the subtle details at that end of the spectrum. Like instead of seeing the texture of a white velvet scarf, it just appears to be flat white.
Mr Moose
Member
Don't think that's what they meant...
SRTtoZ
Member
So, in all fairness.. and trying to be as objective as possible...
Do you guys think that the average family or average gamer would notice the difference between these two?
Here at GAF, we have master pixel-peepers with falcon eyes, so obviously people see the difference... right?
But also.. people see what they are told they are seeing, like the whole RYSE debacle.. (people thought first it was 1080p and everyone believed it but when it turned out it was 900p, then suddenly everyone "saw" it .....)
The MUCH MUCH bigger difference that EVERYONE will notice is the 100 dollar extra price tag and up till this point, MS has not done a good job convincing people about Kinect2, even though it is a far more advanced tech in it.
Basically, if MS would put them selves at 299 and call it a day, these gfx difference will not matter at all, everyone would say stuff like "yeah but at least it is cheaper".
That is what bothers people at NeoGaf the most, why someone has to pay more for less gfx fidelity. If Xbox One would be lower priced than PS4, everyone would swallow the difference like a bukkake show or something similar and then we could go on arguing about games games games..
I understand what you're saying but this isnt about the average family. This is about hardcore gamers who sign up for forums to post about their favorite videogames.
The videogamer vid put it into better perspective for me, one section they are looking down at a truck. XBOX version certainly suffered. I think the game looks great either way coming from a background of never having a good pc for gaming.