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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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True they said that is no difference in brightness between the Ps4 version and the PC version(1:22 min mark) . Both versions look very similar and they made the comment that they played the PC version with an expensive Graphics card.
LOL
Of course not. Just look at Leadbetter.
This guy is a joke.
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
Seriously, that altered gif needs labelling or this thread's fucked.
I get the attempt to counterbalance the improper DF capture, but it's not helping as people are just seeing it and assuming that's what the games look like as standard.
Everyone's seeing different images and arguing because of that fact now.
I get the attempt to counterbalance the improper DF capture, but it's not helping as people are just seeing it and assuming that's what the games look like as standard.
Everyone's seeing different images and arguing because of that fact now.
Honey Bunny
Member
Did you look at the OP? The crushed blacks don't seem nearly as bad in Jackfrag's videos http://i.imgur.com/MS3GDy6.jpg which were ones Dice gave him, whereas DF's are their own capture. Don't think it's an XB1 problem, DF just fucked up.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Why are people accusing DF of altering the Xbone version when there are other comparisons that also show the contrast/sharpness VS blurriness differences? Such as this one;
Here the PS4 version is still blurrier, and it's not from DF, right?
So surely this difference is how the game is, not from capture? At least certainly not bad intent from DF.
From Video Gamer:
Here the PS4 version is still blurrier, and it's not from DF, right?
So surely this difference is how the game is, not from capture? At least certainly not bad intent from DF.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I'm impressed how well the PS4 version held up to the final PC build. Not bad at all.
Seems the PS4 is running Ultra setting variance with less AA then possible on PC @ 900p? That is pretty close to the top end. I am dissapointed in the AA issues, but well .. chalk it up to a third party game releasing on what ... 6 different platforms? I'll let DICE off the hook this once, but the next Battlefield better have a better AA solution.
In the end, we know Call of Duty is going to look well ... not even as good as Battlefield 4, so Killzone really wins the day here. Killzone looks so far above everything else FPS wise its not even funny.
64 player online is what BF4 is all about, not the SP mode though. Can't wait to see the X1 version running 64 player multiplayer with AO. Will they allow sub 30fps?
Seems the PS4 is running Ultra setting variance with less AA then possible on PC @ 900p? That is pretty close to the top end. I am dissapointed in the AA issues, but well .. chalk it up to a third party game releasing on what ... 6 different platforms? I'll let DICE off the hook this once, but the next Battlefield better have a better AA solution.
In the end, we know Call of Duty is going to look well ... not even as good as Battlefield 4, so Killzone really wins the day here. Killzone looks so far above everything else FPS wise its not even funny.
64 player online is what BF4 is all about, not the SP mode though. Can't wait to see the X1 version running 64 player multiplayer with AO. Will they allow sub 30fps?
ReDelicious
Member
You forgot to do the second step.
I can't stand oversharpened and contrasted images. A little contrast can be nice, but too much just hurts the image by hiding detail (this is sometimes why it's used). Sharpening should be used even more sparingly because it doesn't take much at all for it to start making the image look fake. Some people think it makes it look more detailed, but really it's adding more detail than is even there. And that's a bad type of detail.
Glad to see the truth is coming out. Both version look like shit, but let's at least get facts straight.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Well right now it's ps4 3rd party and... Killzone.
TheRealTalker
Banned
well there goes the neighbourhood a.k.a GAF servers
something fishy
Member
they both look great. I'm not getting the drama.
they've done a pretty amazing job for a launch rush.
they've done a pretty amazing job for a launch rush.
That logic doesnt work. The pic used from PS4 was using the "high AA" as its from the console, and was post processed the same way your TV will be handling it, still resulting in a way better image than the X1 one.
Thanks for the traduction. It will be interesting to know what kind of config you need to match PS4 performances. It could be a surprise for many.
Pseudo judo
Member
Ohhh....
Uno Venova
Banned
I hope another site pops up to do comparisons for the next gen.
uncharted86
Member
AO will not come for free, so the framerate will take a small hit which is already worse on Xbone.
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DF certainly haven't earned any trust or benefit of the doubt with their articles over the last year.
But the PS4 image was hand altered. It's not fair to compare a hand altered image to one that is the default output. If you're gong to alter one to be the best it can be you should alter both.
Oh right! So it's definitely because DF have borked the capture then?
Dragon1893
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Interesting.
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Arxisz
Member
Lol. This is pretty damning for the Xbone version.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I'm glad dice found that dgpu.
Why the fuck didn't they said this before the huge shitstorm?
blurredvision
Member
I thought the PS4 version was supposed to be so much better than the X1 version? You Sony backers are having to post a lot of explanations and unrelated pictures to try to explain to us how the PS4 version is amazing, I thought it was going to be obvious?
Fredrik
Member
Interesting!
I've only seen the blurry textures on PS4 so far and people said that you could just alter the sharpness on the TV to get the same result, which was wrong since the textures were clearly completely different, then there was talk about random textures on the ground and clothes instead which could be the reason XO looked crisper, the comparison shots just happened to have randomised textures in the favor of XO. But now the PS4 textures looks better? I need see this. This is roller coaster lol
Kocolino67
Member
Very rough translation:
The differences in brightness between both videos are due to the used video capture method.
They are very unspecific while describing their hardware. It's an "expensive ATI GPU" and a fast PC. Hence, they argue that the PC version could not as good as the PS4 version on slower systems. Overall they see no huge differences between PC and PS4 - "the effects are beautiful and very well done". They observed 60 FPS on PS4 and possible 900p.
Nice video comparison, not very useful commentary.
Well maybe the guy was comparing it to an average gaming PC system. What card would one need to run BF4 at 1080p+, 120fps and AA/16X AF? Most PC gamers are not supporting that kind of gear imho.
Although i found the article interesting none the less..just to make myself clear i was not agreeing with it but i found it to be a bold statement and quite interesting.
We always knew it was going to be subtle. Hell to casuals many people won't care between current gen and next gen graphics. Games like Last of Us, GTAV Beyond look awesome.
Have you read the Digital Foundary write up of the game?
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Well then, I will cry. Because by the sounds of it, you turn up the sharpness setting on your TV along with all its post-processing effects. People still do this in 2013.
And that makes me sad.
Pseudo judo
Member
It's worse but it's not bad.
kriskrosbbk
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Terbinator
Member
Or, they have implemented AO with "zero" performance difference.
We thought its going to be subtle, but it really isnt. Its a landslide difference regarding the graphical power, especially once you take the resolution difference into account.
boredandlazy
Member
I used game mode, but I also calibrate the settings different to the defaults.
Ambient occlusion
Honey Bunny
Member
But apparently DF's image is not the 'default output', as evidenced by Jackfrag's officially-captured videos looking different. In both cases the image has been changed after the fact, not by the system. The point of the gif is not 'which looks the best', it is simply to demonstrate that the sharpening effect can be applied to both versions to achieve the look of the DF XB1 footage.
blurredvision
Member
Some knew it would be subtle, I truly believe most thought it'd be night and day, which it isn't.
TheRealTalker
Banned
I don't know about you guys but seeing uncut MP footage makes me very happy
Why?.... because this game has colour in it! Colours that for some reason DICE didn't show in their MP trailers
T-T Colours for Everyone!
Edit: No more MODS for colours dammit.... so Happy
Why?.... because this game has colour in it! Colours that for some reason DICE didn't show in their MP trailers
T-T Colours for Everyone!
Edit: No more MODS for colours dammit.... so Happy
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
XB1 upscaling is pretty damn good and I think it proves Penello's point - some stuff can be accomplished through an intelligent mix of hardware and software to bridge the gap.
No doubt about it - the PS4 on just about every comparison video looks blurry. Bad upscaling. Look to Crytek's Ryse to see how it should be done.
No doubt about it - the PS4 on just about every comparison video looks blurry. Bad upscaling. Look to Crytek's Ryse to see how it should be done.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
gtav looks like a jaggy mess on my tv. Wouldn't call it great looking
something fishy
Member
so will the whole gen be like this?
gaf will be madness.
fun though.
as a multi format gamer it's going to need a lot of popcorn I think.
gaf will be madness.
fun though.
as a multi format gamer it's going to need a lot of popcorn I think.
Impeccable
Member
You didn't see a vast difference coming or...?