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Harry Potter fans... (book six title)

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Flaming Duck

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Fansite The Leaky Cauldron is now confirming that the tile for book six is Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. TLC is a very reliable site and has some great contacts. The title has also been posted on JKRowling's official website JKRowling.com (which has a lot of great info on it and is just fun to play around with), although you'll have to explore a bit to see it. I guess we can take this as a sign that she's making good progress on the book.
 
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SyNapSe

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Are we to assume that the 'half-blood' refers to mudbloods as they are referred to in the movie? If that were the case, and it was Draco.. that would be a big deal.

edit: nvm, chances are very slim it's Draco.. as it would eliminate Harry's main rival to some extent
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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SyNapSe said:
Are we to assume that the 'half-blood' refers to mudbloods as they are referred to in the movie? If that were the case, and it was Draco.. that would be a big deal.
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A half-blood is some one with a wizard parent and a muggle parent. A mudblood is someone who has two muggle parents.
 
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The Shadow

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Screaming_Gremlin said:
A half-blood is some one with a wizard parent and a muggle parent. A mudblood is someone who has two muggle parents.
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Heh. Maybe it's Harry.

Is he a half-blood? I thought it was suggested that he was...
 
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Matt

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The Shadow said:
Heh. Maybe it's Harry.

Is he a half-blood? I thought it was suggested that he was...
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So the title would essentially be...Harry Potter and the Harry Potter?
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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The Shadow said:
Heh. Maybe it's Harry.

Is he a half-blood? I thought it was suggested that he was...
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No both of his parents were wizards, although his mom was a half-blood. The only half-blood I can think of is Voldemort.
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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Matt said:
So the title would essentially be...Harry Potter and the Harry Potter?
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Someone on another forum put it best by saying that would be like calling an Indiana Jones movie, "Indiana Jones and the Whip-Wielding Archaeologist."


The Shadow said:
Wait a minute...

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/bloodstatus.html

I knew someone said he was a half-blood. It was Tom Riddle.
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Yeah, I guess the books do refer to him as a half-blood. Which leads to the question how many generations does it take to become a pure-blood? It shouldn't take many if not the pure-blood families must be interbreed genetic messes by now.
 
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jiggle

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SyNapSe said:
It's all so damn confusing! :(
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From what I understand

Pureblood - Descendants from magic only folks. ex Blacks, Weasley, Malfoy
Two magic parents doesn't make you a pureblood, both side must come from a line of pureblood.

Mudblood - Both parents(and their ancestors??) are muggles. ex Lily Potter and Hermione Granger.

I dont' remember halfblood was ever used before(anyone remember seeing this actual word? in COS?). But I guess it's logical to assume halfbloods are just ppl from a combination of pureblood and mudblood.

But was James Potter ever revealed to be pureblood?
 
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TekunoRobby

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YAY FOR THE GA-FORUMS!

Now I won't be able to use the computer for the next hour or so (the second my girlfriend read the title of this thread as she was walking by I am instantly booted).
 
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teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Probably Voldemort.

He's half blood. He seeks genocide of his own blood...sound familiar? He's an extended metaphor of hitler.
 
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Flaming Duck

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I don't know... it's all so confusing because there's so much info scattered across so many books, not to mention information that she's given solely in interviews or on her site or whatever. It's hard to keep track of it all. But yeah, I'm pretty sure James was a pureblood. I'm probably wrong, but oh well.

Is magic use genetically based or something for wizards to start making racial descriptors of it?
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It isn't decided genetically, it just picks and chooses.

Pureblood wizards would have had two magical parents and magical ancestors (how far it has to go back, I don't know). Pureblood wizarding families are slowly becoming extinct.

Mudbloods are wizards/witches whose parents/ancestors (again, not sure how far it has to go back) did not have any magical abilities.

Half-bloods have one magical parent and one non-magical parent, apprently, although this issue is weird; both of Harry's parents were magical, but he's still considered a half-blood because his mother was a mudblood, I believe. Voldemort's father was non-magical IIRC.

Squibs are those who are born into wizarding families who either have no magical powers themselves or very little magical powers.
 
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SickBoy

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belgurdo said:
Is magic use genetically based or something for wizards to start making racial descriptors of it?
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No, some people just have an affinity for it. It's like the Force.

Of course, when they do the inevitable Harry Potter prequel they'll dream up some sort of quasi-scientific explanation for magic, thus taking the magic out of the magic.

-SB
 
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golem

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SickBoy said:
No, some people just have an affinity for it. It's like the Force.

Of course, when they do the inevitable Harry Potter prequel they'll dream up some sort of quasi-scientific explanation for magic, thus taking the magic out of the magic.

-SB
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:lol... on JK's site she makes a number of references to how HP isnt Star Wars
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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Willco said:
HARRY POTTER AND THE MAGICK OF TABOO!

This one is dark and erotic!
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Yahoo says it is about film 3, but it must really be book 6 spoilers.

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/va/20040613/108716179500.html

'Harry Potter' Loses Potency Atop U.S. Box Office
Sunday June 13 2:23 PM ET

Harry Potter as a devout high-schooler who gets pregnant following an unsuccessful attempt to cure her boyfriend of homosexuality, has earned $3.7 million to date. The $5 million film was released by United Artists, a unit of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc .
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tenchir

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Just wondering, where did the original wizards comes from? Were they a complete seperate species of human who can later breed with normal humans? Or they used to be normal and somehow attain magic? Or may be pre-wizards human breed with super natural beings and the offspring are magical in nature? Is it possible that a child can use magic if both his/her parents are pure muggles?
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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tenchir said:
Is it possible that a child can use magic if both his/her parents are pure muggles?
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Yes, they are also known as mudbloods (although that term is supposed to be a slur). Hermione is an example of a witch that has muggle parents.


tenchir said:
Just wondering, where did the original wizards comes from? Were they a complete seperate species of human who can later breed with normal humans? Or they used to be normal and somehow attain magic? Or may be pre-wizards human breed with super natural beings and the offspring are magical in nature?
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I'd assume that they were just normal humans that somehow gained magical ability. They then pass their abilities on genetically (with the exception of squibs). At least that would explain how mudbloods exist.
 
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tenchir

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Screaming_Gremlin said:
Yes, they are also known as mudbloods (although that term is supposed to be a slur). Hermione is an example of a witch that has muggle parents.
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I thought mudbloods are the offspring of a wizard(or possibly mudblood) and a muggle. Hermione is an example because she is an offspring of a wizard and a muggle. I am talking about an offspring from two completely unmagical muggles(which Hermione isn't your example of a mudblood).


I'd assume that they were just normal humans that somehow gained magical ability. They then pass their abilities on genetically (with the exception of squibs). At least that would explain how mudbloods exist.
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Then it's pretty stupid(and ironic) that voldemort and slitherin didn't want mudbloods in their line, since their ancestor were muggles at one point.
 
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Flaming Duck

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tenchir said:
Just wondering, where did the original wizards comes from? Were they a complete seperate species of human who can later breed with normal humans? Or they used to be normal and somehow attain magic? Or may be pre-wizards human breed with super natural beings and the offspring are magical in nature? Is it possible that a child can use magic if both his/her parents are pure muggles?
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The origins of wizards has never been explained. I guess as of right now we're just supposed to assume they were always there. They're just regular people with magical powers. Yes, a child can use magic if both of his or her parents are pure muggles; that is a mudblood (Example: Hermione).

Also, this title was originally intended for book two (Chamber of Secrets) but she decided against using it there. It's also mentioned on her site that the first chapter of book six will be a chapter she originally tried to use in three other books, but it never worked out.

There were a lot of factors that led to the three year time span between Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix. She's also said book six won't be nearly as long as Phoenix, so a shorter writing time only makes sense. I also think she said at the PoA movie premier that she was about done with the first draft. I don't think they've ever released the books any other time than summer, but I'm really not sure. I just know that the last two were released in summer, and if they want to keep up with that pattern then I'd expect to see this book in the summer of 2005.
 
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The Shadow

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tenchir said:
I thought mudbloods are the offspring of a wizard(or possibly mudblood) and a muggle. I am talking about an offspring from two completely unmagical muggles. Hermione isn't an example because she is an offspring of a wizard and a muggle.
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Both Hermione's parents are muggles.

One wizard parent and one muggle parent is a half-blood.
 
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tenchir

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Are you sure both Hermione parents are pure muggles? I always assume one of her parent is magical.

Edit: Oh well, I never read any of the Harry Potters book, but I do like the movies. I do plan to read them sometime.
 
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Matt

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tenchir said:
I thought mudbloods are the offspring of a wizard(or possibly mudblood) and a muggle. Hermione is an example because she is an offspring of a wizard and a muggle. I am talking about an offspring from two completely unmagical muggles(which Hermione isn't your example of a mudblood).
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No, both of Hermione's parents are muggles.
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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tenchir said:
Are you sure both Hermione parents are pure muggles? I always assume one of her parent is magical.

Edit: Oh well, I never read any of the Harry Potters book, but I do like the movies. I do plan to read them sometime.
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Yeah, they are both muggles. I think they are both dentists.

If you liked the movies I would definitely recommend reading the books.
 
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White Man

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If the book isn't out by Christmas, I'm calling shenanigans. She never lets the title loose long before the book comes out. If she's going for another summer release (2005), I doubt this is the real title.
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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White Man said:
If the book isn't out by Christmas, I'm calling shenanigans. She never lets the title loose long before the book comes out. If she's going for another summer release (2005), I doubt this is the real title.
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I would say there is no chance of it being out this year, except if it is already at the publisher and they are about to begin production. They have to make several million of these after all. Besides Order of the Phoenix was known to be the title of book 5 over a year before it came out.
 
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tenchir

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I don't think she's in any hurry to rush out the book. The movies is filming the fourth movie so she has like 2-3 years to put out the 6th book.
 
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Mejilan

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Neville's parents were both VERY powerful wizards.

Tortured into insanity by some very evil (and distant) relations to Sirius Black.
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

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robochimp said:
What about Nevile's parents? both wizards?
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Yeah, they were.

Mejilan said:
Neville's parents were both VERY powerful wizards.

Tortured into insanity by some very evil (and distant) relations to Sirius Black.
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They were tortured by
Bellatrix Lestrange
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Luscious LeftFoot

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Yeah, Neville's parents were
Aurors, they hunt/fight Dark art wizards

I hope he plays a bigger role in the upcoming books, I like his character.
 
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