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Polygon COD: Ghosts Review update: (XBONE better version)

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Exokell

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anyway I fucking expect polygon to have the same score for xbox one and ps4 games where the PS4 version has better framerate or resolution. :)
 

Zen

Banned
Eh, They probably focused more on the Xbox ONE version during development, heck even the MS side of things given the news on the PS3 version. Sometimes you have to make that call. I bet Sony was pushing for 1080P PS4 (as they are doing with first and third parties) and Activision wasn't able to get things sorted completely on that end.

Each version of this game (XBONE and PS4) are crappy ports at the moment, no way the next iteration has these kinds of issues.

I heard this game was having a lot of framerate issues on PC running with a Titan card :
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Call-Duty-Ghosts-Frame-Stutter-Issues-Horrendous-PC-60366.html

Heck let's just write off the whole game as a mess after news like this. I think the disappointing thing will be if there isn't some patch to help out the PS4 version or giving it the option of running at 720P like the XBONE.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Writing that the resolution makes no difference makes no sense. It's objectively wrong.

When looking at the game side by side, and you cannot tell the difference how is that wrong? That seems like a legitimate test to me. 1080p is better for sure, but if you really can't tell the difference between the two versions of the game, why would the one with better framerate (in a game that lives and dies on framerate) not score better?

People just want to hate because it's Polygon, even though other outlets have said similar.
 

wapplew

Member
You know what, every xbone game can snap TV, watching TV and playing COD together already worth 3 more extra points. COD on Xbone should score perfect 10.

From now on, every game on Xbone should add 3 points
 

Dragon

Banned
Their write-up makes sense. I don't see the need for controversy here. They note that framerate is king, and CoD already doesn't look all that great, so the resolution difference won't help a ton besides a bit more crisp-ness.

There's always going to be controversy on here when a person cannot distinguish between native 1080p and upscaled 1080p.
 
So for Pologon its.

BF3 Xbox one - lower framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = same score as PS4 version.
Ghosts Xbox one - better framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = higher score than PS4 version.

Hmm.
pretty much this is why no one should trust Polygon if anyone wants to know why polygon is hated
 
Polygon:
While the Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts has been confirmed by Activision to run at a lower resolution than its PS4 counterpart (720p upscaled to 1080p native, respectively), that numerical difference is less meaningful than you might imagine.

The two versions look nearly identical. Viewing the Xbox One release next to the PS4 , I had difficulty telling them apart. It's possible that the PS4 version looked somewhat sharper, but that may have just been my imagination after confirming the hard resolution difference. The next-gen releases of Call of Duty: Ghosts are so close together that gun to my head, I'd have no confidence in being able to discern which version was which — at least, while the two are standing still.



IGN:
When comparing the PS4 and Xbox One versions side-by-side, there’s little to no variation in textures and effects, but there is a discernible difference in resolution. While both are displayed at 1080p, the Xbox One version upscales the game from 720p resolution. In contrast, the PS4 version runs natively at 1080p, which makes character models, weapons, and environments look noticeably sharper and more detailed. The difference is especially apparent on larger-sized TVs, where pixel density weighs more heavily in picture quality.



Hmmmmmmm?
 

Kacho

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So for Pologon its.

BF3 Xbox one - lower framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = same score as PS4 version.
Ghosts Xbox one - better framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = higher score than PS4 version.

Hmm.

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mxgt

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The two versions look nearly identical. Viewing the Xbox One release next to the PS4 , I had difficulty telling them apart. It's possible that the PS4 version looked somewhat sharper, but that may have just been my imagination after confirming the hard resolution difference.

fucking lol

people get paid to write this shit
 
People do that a lot around here. They don't like what the source of the information is saying they will attempt to discredit it. It's like politics. Discredit the politician and everything that person says in the future is taken with a grain of salt.

Frankly, I don't get involved in things like that. I see how outlets like these work. They are fans just like us and work their asses off to get content out there for us to make an informed decision. It's the nature of versus mentality around here.

Do you know who Arthur Gies is or what Polygon's history is?
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
Will wait for more reviews because Polygon lol (not like I'm getting the game anyways)

But I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. That said, I think the resolution bump vs the X1 version should have factored into the review, even if the reviewer is seemingly blind. Saying 720p = 1080p is pretty laughable.
 
720p @ 60fps vs. 1080p @ variable fps

For most games, it would be the latter, but for a game like COD where frame rate is king... XB1 gets the advantage if the reports are true

the thing is the PS4 version has these drops in weird places were no taxing situation are pushed on the hardware, I don't think the PS4 hardware is at fault here, it looks like a coding bug.
 

Crisco

Banned
Lol, that is hilarious. Don't they teach you in Intro to Journalism class to not say "it could be my imagination" in anything you write? That is pretty funny.

Your first mistake is assuming these people are professional journalists. They are not. They are bloggers who've managed to get jobs they are woefully unqualified for through industry connections.
 

Huggers

Member
The score discrepancy is fair if the frame rate is that different. You have to question them on the Resolution thing though, especially as others have said there is a noticeable difference in sharpness
 
Why is resolution vs frame rate a sacrifice the consumer must make? Shouldn't both these high-end "next-gen" devices be outputting at 1080p/60fps as the standard? That's what people were expecting, and that's what should be delivered. I had no problem waiting another year for a new console launch; the 360 and PS3 still have plenty of life left in them to last at least a year. A wag of my finger to both the PS4 and XBone for being disappointments.
 
I have a feeling Digital Foundry will get the same results...or they'll prove that IGN/Poly are lying.

I don't see them straight up lying about it...never know though.


So what's the reaction if DF gets the same results?
Look, any result that doesn't declare the PS4 version of any multiplat game superior is going to get destroyed by a large portion of GAF. That's just the climate around here lately, nothing new. I have the 360 version and it runs great but is easily the worst COD I've ever played.
 

Knoxcore

Member
So for Pologon its.

BF3 Xbox one - lower framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = same score as PS4 version.
Ghosts Xbox one - better framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = higher score than PS4 version.

Hmm.

Polygon does not take a vote en masse to decide review scores. It is one person who reviews one game. Furthermore, there is no policy that any one reviewer should deduct or add points to any given review. A review score is based on how an individual feels about the overall experience of that game. Stop trying to make it into something that's not.
 

hwy_61

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I don't get shit like this. Polygon is providing better content, information, and reviews than I have seen in years. They actually review shit in length and aren't afraid to give lower scores. It's refreshing to see honestly. What did they do wrong here? Are you suggesting the score is too high or low? You think they should be bashing Xbox One no matter what? You are mad they couldn't tell a difference between the 2 versions? Oh, you guys have all seen them in person? Where are your reviews?

EDIT: too late.
 

Waaghals

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I can definitively respect preferring a stable 60fps over image quality. What I find very dubious is the fact that gaming professionals can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.

Sure, developers can muddle the waters with sharpening filters etc, but the lower resolution image will always have far more artifacts and imperfections.

In short: There is nothing wrong with preferring 720p@60fps over 1080p with drops, but given their other statements I have trouble taking with the say seriously.
 
Concerned about what? That the PS4 version is rated slightly lower than the Xbox One version? Say it does happen, and the PS4 version is rated slightly lower everywhere else. Will this affect your enjoyment of it? Will it eat at your brain knowing that the version not on your platform of choice was rated slightly higher than the one you're playing?

This x's 100
 

Derrick01

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I heard this game was having a lot of framerate issues on PC running with a Titan card :
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Call-Duty-Ghosts-Frame-Stutter-Issues-Horrendous-PC-60366.html

Exactly, the game is a pile of garbage on every platform. Console warriors taking this battle up like it means something for either platform is laughable. Sony people attacking Polygon and Xbox fans daring to speak on this after the Dead Rising 3 DF breakdown. Save this shit for another day.
 

Fox_Mulder

Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
It's possible that the PS4 version looked somewhat sharper, but that may have just been my imagination after confirming the hard resolution difference.

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zedge

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How does this pos looking game have frame rate drops?? Lol..

Perhaps they should ask guerilla for some help.
 
I've only got a PS4 on the way but I find this hilarious. Well I won't once the Xbox crowd's smarminess replaces that of the previous Sony fans, I guess. I hate those attitudes from any side.
 

senador

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Take a look at the twitter of the guy who runs the site and remember the 700k they got from Microsoft. If you like them you must love Fox News for their balanced and unbiased coverage.

BF4 had better framerate and a higher a resolution on PS4, where's the higher score?

Gies is great. I've seen him be critical of everything and providing context and information. I've been following him since Polygon's launch. I have no idea why people hate on him so much.

Just because Polygon received funding from Microsoft doesn't mean they have no credibility. That is ridiculous to write them off based on this. Microsoft is a large company and does more than just Xbox. Do you have evidence that they have skewed their news and coverage towards Xbox? I have seen no such thing. I have seen them be open and critical of both. Gies specifically has been critical of Xbox on Twitter. To suggest a .5 difference is them favoring Microsoft is bat shit fucking ridiculous. If that was the case we should have seen a score in the 9s.

And no, I fucking despise Fox News.
 
Why is resolution vs frame rate a sacrifice the consumer must make? Shouldn't both these high-end "next-gen" devices be outputting at 1080p/60fps as the standard? That's what people were expecting, and that's what should be delivered. I had no problem waiting another year for a new console launch; the 360 and PS3 still have plenty of life left in them to last at least a year. A wag of my finger to both the PS4 and XBone for being disappointments.

They are far from high end devices to be honest.
 

Toma

Let me show you through these halls, my friend, where treasures of indie gaming await...
BF3 Xbox one - lower framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = same score as PS4 version.
Ghosts Xbox one - better framerate and lower resolution than PS4 version = higher score than PS4 version.

Hmm.

I have no issue with the framerate being better on Xbox one (and to me that would make it a slightly better version), but at least use the same logic across other reviews.

...

Gies is great. I seen him be critical of everything and providing context and information. I've been following him since Polygon's launch. I have no idea why people hate on him so much.

Just because Polygon received funding from Microsoft doesn't mean they have no credibility. That is ridiculous to write them off based on this. Microsoft is a large company and does more than just Xbox. Do you have evidence that they have skewed their news and coverage towards Xbox? I have seen no such thing. I have seen them be open and critical of both. Gies specifically has been critical of Xbox on Twitter. To suggest a .5 difference is them favoring Microsoft is bat shit fucking ridiculous. If that was the case we should have seen a score in the 9s.

And no, I fucking despise Fox News.

See the post quoted above.
 
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