SEGAvangelist
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First Cod is better on X1, even with FPS drops + 720p
Killzone is rated completely rubbish and out of contrast to every other review site, by a large fraction.
and WTF is this:
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Killzone Shadow Fall Review Thread
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BakedSardine
Banned
Differnt games IMO. I'mm getting Killzone simply for the single player eye-candy and Battlefield for multiplayer.
graywolf323
Member
First Cod is better on X1, even with FPS drops + 720p
Killzone is rated completely rubbish and out of contrast to every other review site, by a large fraction.
and WTF is this:
Tim Dog accusing others of astroturfing is hilarious
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Play both. I will be. One for PC and one for PS4.
Different, unrelated games can receive different scores? Scandalous.
Are there any reviews here that spend any reasonable percentage of their review evaluating the multiplayer? They all seem to be totally preoccupied with the single player.
Saying "Hey, this FPS has an uncompelling single player campaign!" ranks somewhere on the Surprising-Revelation-Meter near "Hey, this pizza has cheese!"
Saying "Hey, this FPS has an uncompelling single player campaign!" ranks somewhere on the Surprising-Revelation-Meter near "Hey, this pizza has cheese!"
dreamer3kx
Member
I had to turn off Polygon live stream, those dudes, smh.
Dreams-Visions
Member
As one who only buys shooters for the MP, I want to know which is the best. I guess I'll have to wait for more MP reviews.
Should probably be noted that "Jeff Killzone Shadow Fall looks like one of the most boring games of the year." is from an anonymous question asker and Jeff answered with: "I’m still working my way through the campaign and need to see some proper online multiplayer, but I’m definitely not loving it so far."
http://blog.jeffgerstmann.net/post/66877069308/jeff-killzone-shadow-fall-looks-like-one-of-the-most
EightBitNate
Member
If Ryse is as poorly made as some suggest, then why would it deserve a higher score?
TrojanBlade
Member
As expected...nit picking and cutting points for stupid things that all other major franchises get away with... the worst part of this industry is that these so called jurnos are some of the biggest fanboys of one console or another and they show their bias in their reviews. What a shame!
Most of them were notoriously unexcited for the PS4 reveal back in Feb, and Justin McElroy had to bitchslap some sense into them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tgbzf3EevJE#t=6425
nelsonroyale
Member
Now I am not expecting any of either PS3 or Xbone exclusives to get unformly high scores...
Yeah, its the usual for launch.
Yeah, its the usual for launch.
BlackClouds
Member
He's far from honest. He plays the gaming politics thing to the fullest. He wants to be the decider of what's trendy while wearing a $10 outfit from walmart. I said divisive, he certainly pisses a lot of people off, and for good reason imo.
SniperHunter
Banned
What were they saying???
I'm saying it deserves to be assessed independent of what unrelated games are scored at. Hence why I said "Different, unrelated games can receive different scores? Scandalous" in response to someone upset at the idea of an action game potentially being rated higher than a first-person shooter.
That kind of cynicism and pessimism is just downright awful, why does it seem to manifest its self all the time among so many media outlets? And I haven't played the game yet, but anytime someone says a game is slow or boring. I just immediately assume they are either 12 or have ADD. It always irks me seeing something trying to establish a sense of pacing, only for it to get discounted because "lol where's the killing, so boring."
Fucking disgusting.
EightBitNate
Member
They're in blackface and making holocaust jokes
RedRedSuit
Member
1. Gies is a complete dill weed. However, since the game's overall reception is not great, that is a strange thing on which to focus.
2. Reviews and scores are useful tools. Deciding on whether to buy a game based "on a number" is perfectly reasonable. Highly scored games tend[/t] to be more well liked by the core crowd and vice versa.
3. The game's reception is disappointing. This isn't because of widespread bias. It's probably because GG were rushed and also attempted a different style of gameplay from what they were used to and failed to pull it off. You should have been prepared for this.
Personally I am a huge huge fan of KZ2's campaign, and thought KZ3 was reasonable, so this is disappointing... but I'm not going to live in denial about SF most likely being a dud in the single-player department.
2. Reviews and scores are useful tools. Deciding on whether to buy a game based "on a number" is perfectly reasonable. Highly scored games tend[/t] to be more well liked by the core crowd and vice versa.
3. The game's reception is disappointing. This isn't because of widespread bias. It's probably because GG were rushed and also attempted a different style of gameplay from what they were used to and failed to pull it off. You should have been prepared for this.
Personally I am a huge huge fan of KZ2's campaign, and thought KZ3 was reasonable, so this is disappointing... but I'm not going to live in denial about SF most likely being a dud in the single-player department.
Byakuya769
Member
Some games must prove they don't suck, others need to prove they do suck. As someone getting pretty tired of the shooter domination, I don't necessarily disagree with many of the critiques I'm seeing. I just find it interesting that most of those critiques can be applied to the entire genre. I'd like to see some head to head reviews.
Can Crusher
Banned
That logic by itself would obviously be sound enough, as it's pure common sense. It adds insult to injury when the behavior mirrors the conclusion.
MeBecomingI
Member
And stuff like this is ignored or forgotten. This is definitely going to be a game people need to play for themselves to judge properly.
MikeE21286
Member
Oh Gies reviewed KZ?
Really not a fan of his.
I haven't read this thread, but can anyone say how long the SP campaign is?
Really not a fan of his.
I haven't read this thread, but can anyone say how long the SP campaign is?
SniperHunter
Banned
Wow that's pretty bad...
I will reserve judgement though. KZ games are a hit or miss
We really need to stop talking about Polygon, they aren't the only site that gave the game an average/bad review, and they're certainly getting more attention that they deserve.
I wouldn't be surprised if Giant Bomb slaps a 2/5 on the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if Giant Bomb slaps a 2/5 on the game.
GB will give it a 3 or 4.
It's sad how unprofessional and worthless Polygon is. I'm not even saying that because of this one review. Look at their past reviews for arguably excellent Sony 1st Party games and the big multiplatform games. Look at the behaviors that people in this thread witnessed from the stream of Killzone SF. That website is a joke and of their staff is a joke. I'd trust ******** more than Polygon at this point, lol.
Gametrailers said 12-15 hours in their review.
samueljustice00
Member
Gertsmann and actually GT reviews seem to be most accurate. EDGE is third in line but pretty hit and miss.
I was watching it, and it wasn't that bad. They were actually being kinder to it than I expected after seeing their review. Game looks really nice imo, can't wait for it.
EightBitNate
Member
That's precisely what a scale is; a universal way to project a games quality from 1-10. You could argue that a 7 on one site means something else on another, but if you're comparing two different games on the same site, you should absolutely try to follow some guidelines.
MikeE21286
Member
Oh wow. Thanks. Seems plenty to me.
nelsonroyale
Member
To be honest, I think Ryse will be reviewed just as harshly. However, if I was getting a Xbone I would still probably get it. Its the system showcase. Pretty much all the reviews have praised the visuals in KZ but it hasn't got a pass on that aspect. I don't think Ryse will either. Which is a bit of a pity, because I think visuals should count for something.
leatherhat
Member
Seems like the reviews are pretty good aside from polygon and the newspaper that complained about the difficulty.
highrider
Banned
I'm totally ok with the reviews. I'm not expecting a great game but a good one, which Killzone has always been for me. I have no interest in military shooters so this is one of the few launch games that appeals to me.
Tbh, I've ignored reviews for years. I trust gamers that I know and that's about it. I've had people telling me Killzone sucked since the first game.
Tbh, I've ignored reviews for years. I trust gamers that I know and that's about it. I've had people telling me Killzone sucked since the first game.
breakfuss
Member
People need to put or shut up. Let's settle this, please. Someone compile the numbers. Show us where the bias lies. Support your thesis with NUMBERS. Do they really grade Sony exclusives more harshly? Where is the proof?
SniperHunter
Banned
How much did Gametrailers give it? And edge?
RedRedSuit
Member
This is bullshit piling on. The series may be forgettable, in your opinion, but the last 2 console games did get a great and good reception respectively. So these scores *are* somewhat surprising and disappointing. Don't be a dill weed.
No, because
- 8.8 is a high score.
- The game received an overwhelmingly positive reception.