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Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Wtf?
It looks just like the PS360 versions..
That is just awful.Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Are people sure it's not a capture/calibration issue? I've only played Dead Rising 3(and Forza, but 1080P so irrelevant) and while the IQ certainly suffers from the resolution I can't really see any of that vomit inducing sharpening. The UI elements are 1080P though. Do other games suffering from sharpening issues also have a separate 1080P UI resolution?
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
I really doubt it. Digital Foundry's Dead Rising 3 captures and Need for Speed Rivals captures were only three days apart. The sharpening is in full evidence in their Dead Rising captures. Need For Speed looks identical except better post-processing AA, slightly better LoD in the far distance, better AO, and better DoF on PS4.
It looks like shit, but the pics are in jpg format, so the reason could be compression artifacts.
I also have Ghosts for 360/One/PS4 (digital upgrade for 360->One, disc for PS4), let the haters hate, lol.And ps4. haha. Tbh i traded in my 360 title for a straight swap for x1 but lent a copy of the 360 copy from a friend to compare the issues i was seeing in cod.
So yeah, looks like complete monkey shit. And sure enough the 720p trick made things look a lot better. The easiest way to see just how bad is to load up a local multiplayer match in Prison Break. Those leaves... my god those leaves... but yeah, the UI looks horrible with the XBO's scaling as well. I thought it was just the resolution difference that was making the PS4 look so much better... and even with the scaling fixed it's not much of a contest, but at least 720p upscaled by my monitor doesn't make my eyes bleed.Im glad im not the only one spotting this, anyone who has cod the best way to see it is in the lobby. Im really pissed at this its spoiling my enjoyment of some of the games effected by this magic scaler. I wonder if any sites will pick this up and contact ms for a statement, its spoiling the xboxone for people although most sites dont seem to give a fuck about tech side of things now.
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Ugh.Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
The processing cycles used to do all that sharpening must be killing the GPU. Maybe if they stopped doing that they could hit 1080P? Or is it the scaler doing it on the fly?
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Assuming its not already there. Filter math is generally rather similar across algorithms so its not that hard to have enough configurability to cover multiple options. Thats what 360 did afaik.mjontrix said:For Microsoft I believe they use a specific ASIC (If we're lucky it's a FPGA) for the scaling - so it's essentially impossible for them to implent.
I went through the calibration steps and turned down my TV's sharpness to 0. IQ is much better now.
It's so odd though. All of my other inputs have the same exact settings and every single game on any one if those consoles looks great. But my 'Bone? It was all kinds of fucked. But now it's better.
Killer Instinct got a significant boost in quality. Gotta try DR3 next.
That blows. All of my TVs have a Sharpness meter though. I usually just crank that down until jaggies go away and everything looks good. Only time it really sucks is for fighting games where I need to play in gaming mode and I don't have the sharpness option.
I wonder if normal people will care though. I know I'm the only person in my friend group that would see the sharpness meter and think to crank it down rather than up. Most will probably like the jaggie look for some god awful, unexplainable reason.
That blows. All of my TVs have a Sharpness meter though. I usually just crank that down until jaggies go away and everything looks good. Only time it really sucks is for fighting games where I need to play in gaming mode and I don't have the sharpness option.
I wonder if normal people will care though. I know I'm the only person in my friend group that would see the sharpness meter and think to crank it down rather than up. Most will probably like the jaggie look for some god awful, unexplainable reason.
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Are thjose "raw" images??? looks really awful.
Maybe technically worse but it looks way better to my eyes. To me, cranking down the sharpness has the effect of hitting the undo button when someone applies a really extreme sharpness filter to an image that was already in focus.Be sure to use this: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/sharpness.php to make sure you aren't artificially blurring the image.
remember, the goal is for your TV is correctly display *every* pixel, exactly as it is meant to be displayed. if you're lowering sharpness until the jaggies disappear, you might be blurring everything, meaning that for games *without* jaggies, you're making them look worse.
This is like a bizarro PS3. Instead of Quincunxing things to a blurry mess, it upscales things to an overly-sharp mess.
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Has anyone seen these AC4 shots from XB1 yet? It looks terrible due to this upscaler sharpening.
Well, this video should make you the judge of that.
I tried this pattern and while lowering sharpness to zero makes it look better everything else looks awful and is a blurry mess. Will keep trying it on other games but im not seeing why sharpness is a bad thing everything looks more sharp at least on my tv. Now im testing using a ps4 so maybe sharpness from an xbone on top of it may make it look worse idk but the setting on max makes a nicer image imo. Are there any comparison pics out there to highlight why this is an issue because im not seeing it.Yes, that's actually how it looks natively.
Resolution matters, bro. Artificially sharpening it does only degrade the image quality.
Use this test pattern on your TV to calibrate sharpness.
I tried this pattern and while lowering sharpness to zero makes it look better everything else looks awful and is a blurry mess. Will keep trying it on other games but im not seeing why sharpness is a bad thing everything looks more sharp at least on my tv. Now im testing using a ps4 so maybe sharpness from an xbone on top of it may make it look worse idk but the setting on max makes a nicer image imo. Are there any comparison pics out there to highlight why this is an issue because im not seeing it.
Ok lets say i do that for a while and then test out sharpness at max again what should it look like then, should it just look off?Everything will look a tad blurry for a while till your eyes adjust to it if youve been using too much sharpness.
Wii U AC4 blows that X-BONE version out of the water.
I would argue against that, actually. Why would you say?Wii U AC4 blows that X-BONE version out of the water.
Be sure to use this: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/sharpness.php to make sure you aren't artificially blurring the image.
remember, the goal is for your TV is correctly display *every* pixel, exactly as it is meant to be displayed. if you're lowering sharpness until the jaggies disappear, you might be blurring everything, meaning that for games *without* jaggies, you're making them look worse.
There's gonna be a lot of sub 1080p games on Xbox One, so MS really needs to stop with this shit.