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PS4 fastest-selling console in UK history, outsells Wii U LTD in UK [250K PS4 in 48h]

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chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
YOU DUN SCREWED' UP LUIGI

I'm glad to see the era of Mario is finally over. Can't wait for Knack and Clank at the Olympic Games next year.
 
I don't see why the Knack bundle makes a difference. People bought the Knack bundle because they wanted Knack, unless I'm missing something here.
 
Hardcore gamer is someone interested in gamming the most, of course, that ditches out of the group those who play for other reasons. It's not that I'm trying to seem a better person than them or anything, it's just that they're not hardcore gammers.
That's a completely circular definition that makes little sense when applied to your examples. Or rather, you're pulling a True Scotsman: "a game isn't a game because it isn't a game. Otherwise, it would break my argument and I need it to solve that cognitive dissonance."
 
Install base is the reason why Mario 3DWorld is struggling. Not lack of interest.

But this doesn't make any sense. If people were that interested in Mario, they'd buy the WiiU to play it. Mario is easily the single most iconic figure in console gaming. If a Mario game isn't shifting consoles, only some type of miracle can bring the WiiU back now.

Bring on the MMO pokemon.
 

benjipwns

Banned
I don't think Nintendo is capable of making a next gen console like the PS4 or XB1. Their interest don't seem to be in the general concept of big budget HD gaming.
They're more than capable as proven before, they just understand the endless contradictions that undermine and doom this insane materialist lemming march.
 

SmokyDave

Member
Install base is the reason why Mario 3DWorld is struggling. Not lack of interest.
Eh, I'd say it's a little from column A and a little from column B, based on the sales in Japan and the UK. I feel it's underperformed even relative to the install base. The Wii U just doesn't seem to inspire its owners to buy games.

There is always NPD day.

Maybe I just need a rebrand, possibly ditching some of the weight that's holding me down. Or maybe just more posts directed towards a larger number of users. If only I had some guidance here.
Always know that I believe in you. I have a bundle of wry smiles waiting to be thrown in your direction.

I don't see why the Knack bundle makes a difference. People bought the Knack bundle because they wanted Knack, unless I'm missing something here.
Nah, stock was so tight, you took what you could get. That's how I ended up with FIFA 14. I'd rather have had Knack, but that bundle had sold out.
 

Nasser

Member
I'm so happy to see Sony is back. Hopefully the PS4 going to be a better console in terms of Games than PS2 was (It's hard, I know :p).
 

jakncoke

Banned
Impressive numbers.

So that's two consoles that have outsold the WiiU's total sales in Europe within a matter of days. I don't think it's unfair to suggest the console is dead in Europe. Mario getting outsold is one thing - Mario not debuting in the top ten is a whole different story. This is very bad, and I see no end in sight.

Well in their latest or the one before quarter report they took more consoles out of Europe than they could sell. Having a -10k Europe is insane, has this ever happened for a console?
 
I'm not moving goalposts. I'm not even talking about sales. I'm talking about why a country with 60 million people is being used, time and again, as representative of a much larger region, if not Nintendo's success worldwide. Why do all these UK threads get so much attention when it comes to Nintendo? Again, even NES and SNES weren't the charts leaders. Yes, they don't do good in the UK, they never did. If that actually meant something, they would have gone belly up 20 years ago.

Also please show me the info that the sales % in the UK is better than in Germany.

Firstly, I don't know why a person would be so bitter about such a small issue. Secondly, UK sales threads are most common because it is the only European country where we get regular hard data released publicly by MCVUK, Eurogamer and the Guardian. French magazines sometimes release data for France, and Focus revealed the German LTDs, but those are much rarer than hard data from the UK. That's why coverage for UK sales is more common than for other major European nations. It also helps that the UK chart comes out on Monday compared to Friday/Saturday for Germany and the following Monday for France.

As for market penetration, PS3 has sold 3.9m units in Germany vs over 5m sold in the UK, 360 is >8m in the UK vs 2.4m and Wii is also >8m in the UK vs 4.6m in Germany. Germany is just a smaller market than the UK for consoles, PC is a much bigger deal there. However, I think the PS4 could go on to break records.

Here is the German data:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=89400136&postcount=75

And you did try to move the goal posts by talking about Nintendo having a low market share. No one here is saying they are doing badly with 3DS. It's the Wii U that is tanking which many Nintendo die-hards took as a sign that consoles in general were done, rather than Nintendo specifically in the home console space.
 
But this doesn't make any sense. If people were that interested in Mario, they'd buy the WiiU to play it. Mario is easily the single most iconic figure in console gaming. If a Mario game isn't shifting consoles, only some type of miracle can bring the WiiU back now.

Bring on the MMO pokemon.

Maybe for people 3Dworld is worth 60$ but not worth 360$ ?
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I think gamers have spoken. In Japan. In Uk. People are starting to get weary of Mario. Why not resurrect Wave Race? Or Metroid? Something.

Mario is not the problem.

The negative perception of the Wii U and the stigma associated to it is.

Nintendo botched the Wii U release quite simply and will be considered a flop to many but to some (including me), it will be considered a gem with some of the best playable software in these last few years.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
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If Nintendo exclusives are so easy to replicate on any random hardware how come nobody's done it? Where's the innovative hardware-centric titles on other platforms that have sold like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, NSMB, Nintendogs, Brain Age, Mario 3D Land, etc.?

I think there's a lesson in there.
Nintendo has excellent software developers?
 

SmokyDave

Member
Well in their latest or the one before quarter report they took more consoles out of Europe than they could sell. Having a -10k Europe is insane, has this ever happened for a console?
It was actually -20k. We loaded 'em into a giant trebuchét and fired 'em back to Japan.
 
Posted yet?

UPDATE: An industry source has told Eurogamer that life-to-date Wii U sales in the UK are still around the 150,000 mark after a year on sale.

That's around 100,000 less than PlayStation 4 managed in its opening weekend.

Xbox One sales are now up to the 170,000 mark, Eurogamer was told. It was reported last week that Xbox One had notched up around 150,000 units during its launch weekend, suggesting around 20,000 more have been shifted in the last week.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-02-playstation-4-uk-launch-sales-are-over-250k

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Kysen

Member
Wait for the post Christmas WiiU firesale. It will sell at £99 with a game bundled easily. £199 is too much for only 1st party games.
 
Eurogamer said:
UPDATE: An industry source has told Eurogamer that life-to-date Wii U sales in the UK are still around the 150,000 mark after a year on sale.

That's around 100,000 less than PlayStation 4 managed in its opening weekend.

Xbox One sales are now up to the 170,000 mark, Eurogamer was told. It was reported last week that Xbox One had notched up around 150,000 units during its launch weekend, suggesting around 20,000 more have been shifted in the last week.

UK numbers company Chart-Track was not able to comment on specific sales figures for PS4 or Xbox One but did confirm that both have now outstripped the Wii U's lifetime sales in the UK.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-02-playstation-4-uk-launch-sales-are-over-250k

So in the UK: PS4 250k, XB1 170k, Wii U 150k
 

The Boat

Member
While there are no PS4 games that interest me, Sony has been been doing a great job. On the other hand, Wii U has plenty of good games, but in the end, the fact is that they haven't been able to appeal to the public.

That's how things work, even if it's sad to see one of the best games of the last few years (hell, one of the best games ever) being outsold by much inferior games, but that's how things go too. It's not the first time it happened.

On a sidenote it's sad that this place has become riddled with posts that belong on gamefaqs, where making generalizations, taking potshots and blatant trolling is commonplace. Console launches bring this put in people I guess.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
...Isn't 20k a little too low for the second week of a brand new hardware in UK, during the Holidays?

EDIT: I'll kindly post this update in the PAL thread as well.
 
Clearly Nintendo needs to focus less on making quality games and more on making beefy hardware. Seems to be working for Sony.

Seriously though, Knack outselling 3D World is just sad.
 

-MB-

Member
I think a lot of people expected a new Mario game to move hardware and thus sell lots of copies of the game.

I suspect Knack won't have much of a tail but Mario will continue to sell if the hardware sales do pick up.

I said this in the M-C thread and I'll say it here too.
It's painfully obvious the pricepoint is the main obstacle at this poin.
300 is just too much for peopel to want to spend on a mario game, a pircecut to 250$
is going to be needed here.
Question is if Iwata is willing to do so, beause that is obviously goign to mean that
they will not end up with a profit for another fiscal year. If hes not willing, then its obvious they gave up for at least the short term.
 
Stock issues I guess. PS4 is going to crash harder than that.

Stock issues yes - you can't get an Xbone anywhere on the high street - all stock is for pre-orders/replacements.

But also just general pent up demand in the first week. Wii U actually sold ok in it's first week - it was the 51 after that where it sold miserably.
 

Hasney

Member
FELLOW WII U OWNERS THAT ARE HATIN'

We bought the new Dreamcast. Face it, they've tried most of their A game now and it's still not moving units. But you know what? I loved my Dreamcast and I'm already loving my Wii U.

Don't be sad that the PS4 and XBox One are killing it, just enjoy it. Get one of those other 2 when you can afford it for some 3rd party support or build yourself a PC. But treasure your time with the Wii U every 3 months or so when another fantastic game comes out for it. We're the lucky ones, we get to experience some of Nintendos best work, but there's no reason to hate on everything else. Knack is fun, give it a chance even though it's not in the same league as 3D World and you might change your tune.

Tonight, I'm going to give Killzone a shot and then probably spend the rest of my night playing 3D World. It's OK to back the loser, just let it go.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Stock issues I guess. PS4 is going to crash harder than that.

I'm quite curious about PS4's second week now. Certainly the drop will be bigger (due to a much bigger first week), but I still feel it'll sell much more than One in its second week. I know One is supply costrained, but 20k still seems too low for a second week.
 

McLovin

Member
Shame about Mario, but I'm guessing most people are in my situation. I don't think getting a Wii U is worth it for Mario. Sure the Wii U has more games now, but most of them have been out a while. And the good stuff is way too spread out.
 

Owzers

Member
dat year headstart tho

Pikmin 3 launch window , releases in August.

maybe Nintendo thought "Year Headstart" was a new game that shows off the gamepad.

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Sometimes i don't even care if Nintendo dies, even knowing that they make a few amazing games i'd miss out on.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
Does the guy's leg break from getting kicked in the head? :/ Or does his leg just look weird from the way he falls?

It typically happens (folded up). All your body weight is on legs that don't work. I don't think he broke anything, though.
 
I'm quite curious about PS4's second week now. Certainly the drop will be bigger (due to a much bigger first week), but I still feel it'll sell much more than One in its second week. I know One is supply costrained, but 20k still seems too low for a second week.

I think it will be less than 20k from looking around shops and online. PS4 just has zero availability. The scalpers price has actually gone up a bit which indicates extremely low retail availability. Sony need to get the second major shipment here ASAP.
 

SmokyDave

Member
I'm quite curious about PS4's second week now. Certainly the drop will be bigger (due to a much bigger first week), but I still feel it'll sell much more than One in its second week. I know One is supply costrained, but 20k still seems too low for a second week.
I can't imagine it selling more than 20k next week. I can't imagine there are 20k out there to sell.

I know I asked my local Sainsbury's when they were getting new stock and they're getting 1 unit on Dec 13th and that's already allocated to someone that had a day 1 preorder that didn't get fulfilled.

I wish we had more information on what stock was available and when stocks will be replenished.
 
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