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GamesRadar: Its time for Nintendo to admit defeat and make a true next-gen console
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Gaf eating posts again? Weird...
Like the hat?
Banned
Worked with the gamecube
You really believe all the third-party devs/pubs will be releasing their games on a Nintendo console even if it matched the power of the competition? They still wouldn't fully support the console.
sixteen-bit
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so like, modular?
Not really
I certainly think that they should cut the Wii U's lifespan short. They shouldn't wait six or seven years before releasing a new console. However, I also think that they shouldn't just suddenly give up on it right now. 2016 sounds like a good year for the next Nintendo console...if the mobile and social network market hasn't swallowed home consoles by then (but I don't think it'll happen THAT quickly). Rebranding the Wii U would also go a long way towards getting casuals interested in it, I think. Just call it the Wii 2, already.
yes.
ComputerMKII
Banned
I wish Nintendo went back to core gaming one day. They were great during the Nintendo 64 years.
The 3DS has only been out for about two years so per the average cycle I'm going to assume it has another 3 years.
I'm also going to assume that Nintendo's next home console might launch in a not too far removed tandem.
Yikes, I wonder what drives an expert to make this kind of assessments?
The problems of the WiiU are hardly related to its horsepower, and shutting the console down would only destroy the relevance they have in their console space and would ripple across their whole line of products. So myopic.
The problems of the WiiU are hardly related to its horsepower, and shutting the console down would only destroy the relevance they have in their console space and would ripple across their whole line of products. So myopic.
Misterinenja
Member
It's far too premature and at this point it's better to stick with the system and slog it out with first party titles. A new console does not make any economic sense for the company atm.
Hey so have you seen any multiplat game recently where the WiiU version does better lighting and DoF than PS4/XB1 version?
Hey so have you seen any multiplat game recently where the WiiU version does better lighting and DoF than PS4/XB1 version?
CodytheHero
Neo Member
Games sell consoles in the long run. NOT hardware.
The nearly four million of them (I think? At least three and a half million) that are out there.
WiiU is dead. I don't disagree with that at all. I'm just saying this isn't the end of Nintendo. There are tech companies who have made far worse products and always get back up. Nintendo is lucky enough to have enough money in the bank to get through it.
By the time a next-gen Wii does come out it'll already be a few years into the this generation. Nintendo damned regardless. Shit, I know for a fucking fact when the Wii 3.0 and 4DS come out I will have to REBUY every fucking digital game I bought.
I think Nintendo has worse problems than the WiiU to be honest.
Indeed. It's funny.
What's so different about their output now and then?
I think so, yeah.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
You're right, an even more homogenized and samey console STILL without any third party support is definitely the way to go man. Excellent idea.
flamingotripod
Member
WiiU XL HD
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
The hardware ensure parity of games on the system, though. If Wii U was as powerful as PS4 for instance it would at the very least ensure devs could easily release games for both consoles that were similar in quality, thus allowing Nintendo fans to just buy the Wii U and not a Wii U and PS4 just to have 3rd party titles.
Ninty has some internal stuff to fix for sure (accounts, etc) but hardware parity would help get the base third party games at the very least.
Did they really? I remember seeing them the week of release at best buy. Maybe they sold out the first nights worth but after that they were always available for purchase.
It would help a lot if they unified everything like Sony managed to do with PSN. I mean, Sony...the company that was hacked left and right found a way to make a decent infrastructure. I'm confident when Gaikai streaming does come my past PS2/PSone/PS3 games will be playable because Sony has it written down I bought it all on PSN.
I can't say the same for the WiiU's successor.
Make a more powerful console with a traditional-style controller (PS4/XB1) as the default and I'll buy one. The Wii U gamepad is garbage. Oh, and make Wii U's successor stand out as a NEW console. Drop the Wii name.
I would buy a Wii U for $99, though. So get on that price cut, Nintendo.
I would buy a Wii U for $99, though. So get on that price cut, Nintendo.
dream
Member
Except for Nintendo themselves, which makes their implosion so fascinating to watch.
Captain Tuttle
Member
If they go traditional third party, one?
Nintendo doesn't need to drop hardware, they just need new leadership. They're too slow to adapt.
How would this not burn them? They would still have to buy a brand new system after only a year.
We're not all Apple Fanboys that like doing that.
ryūkotsusei
Member
Implosion?
You mean the company that is still making money and hirig people and expanding, unlike 90% of the industry?
Either that or get ass ports for the next 5 years.
Maybe dream was referring to the Wii U? lol
JordanN
Banned
PS1 Vs N64 : CD's won
PS2 Vs Gamecube: DVD's won
Wii vs Hd twins: Last gen hardware won (barely)
Wii U vs HD+ Twins: Power/Online wins
Apart from one gen, the market was ready to evolve and Nintendo opted against it.
CapNBritain
Member
Nintendo doesn't need to be the only one to create new games for its platform. Nintendo needs to build the bridges that Sony and Microsoft have to enable other studios to bring the games Nintendo doesn't create onto Nintendo platforms. Part of that would be creating a console that addresses the needs and wants of non-Nintendo studios.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
This is 100% untrue. Even with a failing console, they're still getting money from not having to pay licensing fees to put their own stuff on it. And this is before we even take into account the 3DS.
SolarPowered
Member
They need to fix more than just hardware issues. The way they approach online multiplayer (not at all on home consoles), genre diversity, third parties, marketing, accounts and community building (voice chat and such) and their virtual console are all unacceptable.
This is far beyond 2005 Sony. It seems they do need fresh blood, but we'd probably go down mobile hell in that case...
This is far beyond 2005 Sony. It seems they do need fresh blood, but we'd probably go down mobile hell in that case...
This relies on the (wrong) assumption that third parties give a shit about Nintendo consoles regardless of power.
Didn't help the GameCube. And the WiiU is still missig tons of last gen games that could have been made for it.
My biggest problem with the WiiU is the gamepad. Since 2007...I repeat since 2000 fucking 7, all tocuh screens have been made of glass and support multi-touch.
WiiU comes out in 2012 and has a worse screen than a god damn fisher price toy in the 90s.
Could you fucking imagine if Apple made their next touch screen the same shitty quality the WiiU has?
WiiU comes out in 2012 and has a worse screen than a god damn fisher price toy in the 90s.
Could you fucking imagine if Apple made their next touch screen the same shitty quality the WiiU has?
Father_Brain
Banned
Exactly.
There is a deeply rooted, longstanding assumption amongst third-party publishers that core third-party games can't sell on Nintendo consoles. Some of this is just self-fulfilling prophecy, but most of it is based on fact (poor sales of multiplats on Nintendo consoles, Nintendo designing hardware primarily for its internal studios, lagging on online functionality, lack of any real effort in the past decade to cultivate an audience for Western core titles on their consoles).
I like my Wii U. Sure it's not as powerfull as the PS4 or X1, but it's optimized. The games feel great, run at a high FPS, the gamepad is a genius idea for new gameplay ideas.
The main problem of the Wii U is not the console. It's the marketing. The fact that the Wii U is called the Wii U, the fact that it look like a Wii.
If they called it the Wii 2 or any other name, and actually marketed it to the masses, then it would be selling like cupcakes.
The ignorant masses do not know the difference between a Wii and a Wii U. They have to make ads saying "This is not a Wii, this new console with a new control scheme who allow you to use your old controllers."
The console do not suck, the marketing does.
The main problem of the Wii U is not the console. It's the marketing. The fact that the Wii U is called the Wii U, the fact that it look like a Wii.
If they called it the Wii 2 or any other name, and actually marketed it to the masses, then it would be selling like cupcakes.
The ignorant masses do not know the difference between a Wii and a Wii U. They have to make ads saying "This is not a Wii, this new console with a new control scheme who allow you to use your old controllers."
The console do not suck, the marketing does.
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