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GameSpot selects their overall Game of the Year for 2013
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I have to say I'm surprised. I really thought GTA or TLOU would get it. I've no idea what the Zelda game is like but it seems well received so thats cool. Never thought I'd see a handheld game grab the no1 spot. With Zelda grabbing overall GOTY, PoE grabbing PC GOTY, and DOTA doing so well, it looks like I might have to re-evaluate my opinion of Gamespot.
The Technomancer
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So you started a game on a hidden "hardest" difficulty that is only unlock-able after you've beaten the game once, probably because you need to know how everything in the game works before you take quadruple damage .... and you're upset that it was too hard?
Shocking.
That would have been amazing, I agree. A lot more ballsy than Zelda.
Coffee Dog
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1. PC exclusive.
2. Nontraditional release. The journalism game is about big hype and valve did a slow rollout. Not hype worthy at all,
3. I highly doubt any of the press are any good. It's a massive time sink.
freezamite
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Not that you did it, but if you don't consider casual players to be some sort of inferior people, why are you so upset when someone tells you that you're not on this because of gaming?
I mean, I just told you that those "toys" focused on gameplay, while "real games" (in your opinion) focused on other aspects, and that hardcore gamers value game based on gameplay first and foremost.
Why did you get offended if not because "not being a hardcore" is an insult to you? To me it clearly isn't, anyone is free to play for whatever reason he wants to...
Given the choices, I probably would have voted for Path Of Exile.
But yes, as stated earlier, the thread written here a few weeks ago about handhelds never winning overall GOTY has been directly answered. Good job, uh... whose GOTY is this... oh yeah, GameSpot. Good job.
What if playing a game designed for a 3" LCD is not someone's definition of fun?
Now what?
It's true because that's how GamePro formulated their ratings.
But yes, as stated earlier, the thread written here a few weeks ago about handhelds never winning overall GOTY has been directly answered. Good job, uh... whose GOTY is this... oh yeah, GameSpot. Good job.
What if having a cinematic experience is someone's definition of fun?
What if playing a game designed for a 3" LCD is not someone's definition of fun?
Now what?
Yes, obviously. Fun is objective and its quantity can clearly be observed and measured on a per game basis.
It's true because that's how GamePro formulated their ratings.
Or to put it another way, on the basis of posts quoted above and otherwise made in this thread:
I think it's fair to say that enjoying either Zelda or TLOU requires substantial emotional investment in the protagonist and relies heavily on their own aesthetic style, and that neither game offers tremendous challenge or replay incentive (which is why I'm not personally interested in either game (besides the former being on a handheld)).
Again, how did I insult anyone? There's nothing wrong with enjoying Zelda because it provides you satisfaction, purely on how much fun it is. But for me personally, a game doesn't need to be some super fun thing to still be an incredible game. I've accepted and respected everyone's opinion in this thread, and yet I've been consistently attacked over and over again for having a differen't opinion on what I feel makes a great game.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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Same reason why you almost never see a MMORPG on GotY lists. DOTA2 is the kind of game where if you get into it, you're likely to spend hundreds, even thousands of hours on it. It's like an anti-reviewer game.
brandonh83
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I could agree about The Last of Us, but Zelda has really fast pacing and quick dungeons, making it very replay-accessible.
4. being afraid of the community and not wanting to start
That's my reason at least. That, and the time sink one.
You got all huffy when someone pointed out, based on your post, that you're more interested in a game being an "interactive experience" than the gameplay. You got offended that they "insulted you" when you just said that people who are more interested in gameplay like "toys".
DOTA 2 has a very easy way to get new players into the game. From the tutorial, to the PVC matches, from youtube tutorial videos. When I was new to the game I never got shat on and people were helpful while I learned to play.
Sorcerer Supreme
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My brother finished the game before I did and knowing Nintendo I imagined the game would've been extremely easy if I had chosen normal. And when did I ever say the game is "too hard"? Go back and read what I said before putting words in my mouth.
OK.
I replay the dungeons in Zelda 10 times. How does the game measure and record my ability in each of those 10 runs? Are there high scores set? Are there timers to strive to beat? Does the game have any way of quantifying or assessing the development of skill in those 10 runs?
Now apply those same questions to 100 runs. Then 1000. Does it do those kind of things, particularly to justify making 100 or 1000 runs?
I'm asking because I honestly don't know. I'd hope that it does, and I'd consider it lacking in replay incentive if it doesn't.
foxuzamaki
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What is this nonsense
I didn't know the two were mutually exclusive, and sorry that saying a piece of art feels like a toy offends so many of you. Try not being so insecure? It was never meant to be an insult.
Coffee Dog
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The community really isn't that bad. There's friendly people and assholes just like everywhere else. The problem, I think, is that when you DO get an asshole, youre stuck with them for about 40 minutes
I've played and beaten the bolded ones.
You still didn't answer the question of what the "little bit more" is supposed to be.
Oh, I get it, so by "a little bit more" you mean "not a 3ds game".
Coffee Dog
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Oh stop with this. Don't be coy and pretend that there isn't a "for children" connotation when using the word toy. You can't attack people for being insecure after using loaded language like that.
The Technomancer
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Also wow, is Path to Exile really that good? I should look into it
Dreams-Visions
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Nintendo still makin magic after all these years.
brandonh83
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Not really but I guess we have differing viewpoints of what makes something replayable.
Dion Blaster
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Well I guess that's a different take on replay value. I just measure it on if a game is still enjoyable a second time through, which generally stems from satisfying mechanics that don't get old, good quick pacing, and lack of fluff.
Oh and having enough freedom to tackle things in a different order so that not every replay feels the same.
Actually, it happened. World of Warcraft won IGN's game of the year.
Gaf_SentMe
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Figures. Pretty much happening on the tv side as well. Breaking Bad is falling short of the top spot on several lists out there. GTA V and TLoU are more deserving in my opinion. But it wouldn't be interesting to claim them for the top prize since GTA IV and Uncharted 2 top lists a few years back. That Zelda game does look class though. Hopefully Nintendo can follow up with a similar experience on the Wii U.
GillianSeed79
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Every impression I've heard has been overwhelmingly positive and every podcast I listen to, including GiantBomb, has said A Link Between Worlds is a great game. Now, I haven't played it because I don't own a 3DS, but I can totally respect that game as a GOTY choice.
It certainly helps that the game is also based, at least setting wise, on one of the most beloved Zelda games of all time. The more varied GOTY choices the better IMO. Also, weren't people in love with Gamespot a couple of years ago when they gave Demons Souls GOTY?
It certainly helps that the game is also based, at least setting wise, on one of the most beloved Zelda games of all time. The more varied GOTY choices the better IMO. Also, weren't people in love with Gamespot a couple of years ago when they gave Demons Souls GOTY?
GregLombardi
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If they basically take all the things that make ALBW good versus recent Zeldas and slap them on a new deep story / game, the game will be god like.
There's Hero Mode that is damn hard too, imo.
Game's don't need to provide social commentary to be the best game in a given year. Having social commentary certainly adds value to the game, just like other elements add value to a game (such as music, art direction etc.) But a story/theme or social commentary is not necessary. If we start viewing games that DON'T have these as being less, then there is something seriously wrong.
Also to throw this back at you, I would argue some of the best films of all time don't have deep social commentary or an extensive plot at all. Cinema goes beyond just the story/written word. There are so many elements that make up film (again, such as cinematography, lighting, set/costume design, music etc.). We don't judge films entirely on them having a deep story or commentary.
Does it help when films have those things? Sure. But it doesn't have to have them to be great. So why should this unrealistic measurement be placed on Video Games.
How can you say this without having actually played Zelda?
This is what happens when you use vague and subjective words like "fun" to justify your opinion.
Fair enough, but that's what I'm getting at - even if the mechanics don't get old, the lack of assessment and incentive to continue playing does make playing a game eventually get old. At least, that's what I want out of replay incentive. I want the game to give me a way to know that I can do something better. Thanks for the responses.
The Bankslammer
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Nice to see a major gaming outlet give props to a handheld title like that. It's certainly a fantastic game and worthy of that award.
old
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I think Dota 2 brings up an interesting issue. The game was in beta for years. It may have been officially released this year but many have been playing it for years. They even had a major tournament for the game in 2012. Can you really call it a 2013 game considering such? I don't. I think we need to update our definition of "released" now that "officially released" has become somewhat arbitrary.
dragonfart28
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As opposed to GTAV or ACIV, right?
I'd go out on a limb and say that ALBW certainly shook up series conventions and formulas more than GTAV did in relation to the game before it.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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As someone who was growing quite tired of the stale Zelda formula, Link Between Worlds was a breath of fresh air.
Don't act like Nintendo are the only ones making "the same games". Your post is quite ironic consider ALBW was a fresh Zelda experience.
Holy Order Sol
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The game does track the number of times you die, but that's it.
To me, A Link Between Worlds is the freshest Zelda game in years. Not that I don't have some issues with it, but I felt they made an honest effort to try something new with how items and dungeons were handled.
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