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GameSpot selects their overall Game of the Year for 2013
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boiled goose
good with gravy
dammit... regretting not getting a 3DS XL when I went to target..
brandonh83
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Go back. Their doors are open. As is their security.
Keihart
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I feel dirty for replying to this , but it really bothers me this " games are supposed to be this and not this, so you are dumb and your opinion is invalid"
I have absolutely no problem with gamespost choosing ALBW as GOTY, and thats not my personal GOTY, you know why? because opinions dude.
My GOTY it is TLoU so far, with the close second of the stanley parable, if you care to know why, it's really simple for me, TLoU bringed something back to games that i was missing the whole generation, a brilliant mix of gameplay , story telling and crafting of it.
TLoU it's not less than what MGS was for me back in the day. And yes, TLoU it's not really fun , and it's not meant to be fun, and it's not less of a game because of it.
Do i like fun games? of course, i even l like dumb fun games with stupid stories like P* games.
TLoU it's not less than what MGS was for me back in the day. And yes, TLoU it's not really fun , and it's not meant to be fun, and it's not less of a game because of it.
Do i like fun games? of course, i even l like dumb fun games with stupid stories like P* games.
Sorcerer Supreme
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It's one of worst mechanics in a Zelda game.
I started my game on hero mode so this might be different for anyone who played on normal but I'm forced to fight with my shield and sword more than any of the other items because of how the bar drains so quickly. I love using the Bow and Boomerang combo for ranged attacks but once I run out of bar I have to just sit there and wait for it to slowly refill. It makes it so there can't be any variety in battle and when you do need the items to fight a specific enemy your only option is to run away until the meter refills again. This wouldn't be a problem if the game allowed the player to the increases bar or not have every item attached to it and create two separate bars for magic and stamina. What sense does it make to take stamina/magic away when using the hookshot or bombs?
Save 'N Quit
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Great list and great choice for the winner.
Nice job, GameSpot.
Nice job, GameSpot.
Hatty
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the wonderful 101 is the peoples GOTY confirmed
ab.aeterno
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The question has, basically, been legally settled. That's why I was taking exception to the idea that games are "just toys." If they are, not only is protecting their expression pointless, but it buys into the idea that it can't ever be anything but fun, which I think is bullshit. They're an art form.
gastricacid
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I still cannot at the high amounts of salt in this thread lol. Gta 5 already won 21-22 gotys while tlou won like 27 already, and people are still not happy? It would be nice to give other masterpieces that aren't on Xbox/ps3/pc the praise that they deserve.
Revengineer
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Obviously, since you are able to enjoy such different things.
LIKE THE SAME THINGS AND LIKE WHAT I LIKE RAWR
If people like that had a prominent voice early enough, we'd still be playing pong and Zelda wouldn't exist.
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Oh the irony! To call someone out for limiting "art" to something left for movies when you yourself consider that there is no "social commentary", depth or artistic value on a product mainly focused in interactivity and game design/mechanics.
"Toys" you say. Hmm I'm loving this
Gunstar Ikari
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That comment section is a salt mine. Good grief.
Reminds me of the time that GameSpot gave Fighting Game of the Year to KOF XIII over Mortal Kombat.
Reminds me of the time that GameSpot gave Fighting Game of the Year to KOF XIII over Mortal Kombat.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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I think it's rather funny that we've reached a point where choosing a Zelda game as Game of the Year is seen as an edgy decision.
Did you miss the parallel he drew?
aparisi2274
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wut???
Why does a GOTY need to have social commentary? Its a video a game, not a documentary about darfur or something...why do we need to discuss a game once we have beaten it? Or discuss it 20-30yrs from now? Video Games are meant to be played, explored, and completed.
Zelda ALBW is the most polished game I've played this year, and one of the best Zelda games to come along in the last 10 years... Why shouldn't it win GOTY?
For me, it comes down to The Last of Us and ALBW -- and I'm probably going to give the nod to ALBW, as well. There is not a single moment in ALBW that is dull. TLoU had a slow start (after the prologue), and is just nowhere near as fun or replayable in its moment-to-moment gameplay. To cop a Breaking Bad analogy, ALBW is 99.1% pure.
That being said, people who like games and aren't corporate ballwashers would find it very rewarding to play both.
That being said, people who like games and aren't corporate ballwashers would find it very rewarding to play both.
Is not that a Zelda game won, is that a game on the least powerful system available, a handheld at that, won.
brandonh83
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we need to get David O. Russell on Zelda, STAT. maybe we can finally get a Zelda game where everyone has psychological issues and screams.
Thursday War
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inb4 they only did this on get on gaf's good side
No, he was implying that social commentary isn't necessary to be appreciated in an artistic way. However, that doesn't mean that everything that is void of social commentary is now comparable with Jazz. I actually love Nintendo games and think they're the most consistently great brand in video game history. I also, though, hate this attitude that anything that isn't colorful characters hopping on animal heads is a movie and not a game. The definition of a game is evolving and expanding.
Zelda: Silver Linings Hyrule
Haven't played ALBW yet, but comments from almost everyone say it's a really weird mix of a lot of old LTTP stuff and new mechanics. I'll get around to playing it eventually. I have a couple other games I want to finish (killer is dead, GTAV, Fire Emblem, and some indie titles before diving in... I'll also look for a lower price).
The argument about why a handheld can't be goty is a little stupid to me. I think any game can be eligible if it's good enough. Handhelds just rarely are better than a game with more time put into development for it. In the past handhelds were tailored to be console-lite experiences (for example, handheld mario karts). I think we're finally coming into an era where handhelds are powerful enough to warrent a games that can be considered main entries into the series and not just side experiences.
ALBW might just be as amazing as everyone makes it out to be. I'll reserve judgement for it until I play it.
The argument about why a handheld can't be goty is a little stupid to me. I think any game can be eligible if it's good enough. Handhelds just rarely are better than a game with more time put into development for it. In the past handhelds were tailored to be console-lite experiences (for example, handheld mario karts). I think we're finally coming into an era where handhelds are powerful enough to warrent a games that can be considered main entries into the series and not just side experiences.
ALBW might just be as amazing as everyone makes it out to be. I'll reserve judgement for it until I play it.
Barrel Cannon
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I havent played tearaway or ac black flag, but excluding those I totally agree with the rest of nominees and the winner. It definitely deserved it but im still surprised they gave it to a handheld title. The hate from fanboys is strong today.
Coffee Dog
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Striving for narrative depth and championing TLOU makes you look like a hypocrite. TLOU's narrative is paper thin and nothing more than what's on the surface, and while it hints at using interactivity to further the story in a few sections, most of the time the drama is on autopilot without the player' s involvement.
I want games to do a little bit more as well, so I can't in good conscience say that TLOU was wholly successful in it's effort to tell me a story when it falls short due to a myriad of issues. 3D world and Zelda, however, are not focused on telling stories, letting them be entirely vehicles for delivering finely tuned gameplay. They are very, very successful at this. Their simplicity is one of their greatest strengths as they dont bite off more than they can chew and the experiences aren't bogged down by fluff.
I don't disagree, but why not just come right out with that post instead of acting indignant at the comparison?
How the hell did I insult anybody? Are you kidding me?
ab.aeterno
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This is true for movies as well; not many comedies get nominated for Best Picture, so let's not pretend this is exclusively a games issue. That said, games can definitely be art based solely on mechanics because interactive mechanics are what makes a game a, well, game.
It's not just story.
MagicWithEarvin
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What does it matter when it comes to a more "powerful system"? If a game is good, it's good. No matter the system. If the media always had this mindset, hand-held games would never be considered for GOTY.
Coffee Dog
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Nobody who knows even remotely what their talking about derides these games for being movies. It's not a debate. They're games.
But I think we should encourage analysis on the level of film and not just accept every game with teh feelz as a masterpiece.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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Actually, it's more like a mix between LttP and the original Zelda.
MoogleWizard
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This post made me cringe.
It's a joke, right?
I agree. It's stupid that a handheld game can't get GOTY. Handheld games have been superior than console games for me for the past few years.
I foresee myself being irked by two things this voting season:
1) Nintendo fans saying TLOU is a shallow story or a "movie" -- The story is excellent, and the gameplay is also excellent, and its great achievement is striking a balance where it becomes greater than the sum of its parts. The gameplay is not as consistent or varied as ALBW, but to say it's not there or what's there isn't good is false.
2) Sony fans saying ALBW isn't worthy -- It absolutely is. ALBW is true masterpiece of game design and mechanics and pacing and even technical performance, given it runs at a locked 60 fps in autostereoscopic 3D. The game creates this constant buzz that never lets up until you power off the game. The zen-like "flow" is so immediate, so strong and so consistent that it's like you're intravenously being fed pure gaming bliss.
So yeah. Seeing people go #TeamTLOU or #TeamALBW is going to be rough when both games are incredible and neither side should diminish the other.
1) Nintendo fans saying TLOU is a shallow story or a "movie" -- The story is excellent, and the gameplay is also excellent, and its great achievement is striking a balance where it becomes greater than the sum of its parts. The gameplay is not as consistent or varied as ALBW, but to say it's not there or what's there isn't good is false.
2) Sony fans saying ALBW isn't worthy -- It absolutely is. ALBW is true masterpiece of game design and mechanics and pacing and even technical performance, given it runs at a locked 60 fps in autostereoscopic 3D. The game creates this constant buzz that never lets up until you power off the game. The zen-like "flow" is so immediate, so strong and so consistent that it's like you're intravenously being fed pure gaming bliss.
So yeah. Seeing people go #TeamTLOU or #TeamALBW is going to be rough when both games are incredible and neither side should diminish the other.
Dion Blaster
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They're generally not, which I think is why people are pleasantly surprised.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Haha its Super Mario Galaxy all over again
"bu-but Nintendo platform b-but mature story"
"bu-but Nintendo platform b-but mature story"
Coffee Dog
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This is exactly the opposite problem. Neither the gameplay nor the story were given any room to breathe and it harmed both greatly. The game had far far too much gameplay for the story to be paced well, woth way too many pointless gameplay scenes. Likewise, the gameplay suffered by not being able to have a focus on encounter design and mechanical depth due to it's need for accessibility and to be consistent with the narrative presented.
If the game would have focused on one area it could have been great. But as it stands it doesn't really excel in any one area, and is more of a jack of all trades.
Are you a changed person after playing it? Does a single tear even roll down your cheeks?
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