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Lostprophets Singer Ian Watkins Sentenced to 35 Years in Prison
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who was defending him?
the fuck? this guy deserves everything that he gets in prison
CharmingCharlie
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Please feel free to show us some quotes from anyone "defending" this person in this topic. No one is defending Ian Watkins or the women, there is not a single post in this topic defending what this person and his cohorts have done. Everyone has quite rightly stated they find his crimes horrific and unimaginable.
There are people however that are completely opposed to the death penalty NO MATTER how heinous the crime is. I am one of those people, I don't believe having society sanctioned vengeance is good for society as a whole.
Now does this make me a "defender of Ian Watkins" ? No I find the guy reprehensible and his crimes are absolutely disgusting but that does not mean I want the state to start murdering people. I want Ian Watkins locked away for a very long time, I want the public to be safe from Ian Watkins. That is the right and proper thing to do if we are supposed to be a civilised society.
Yeah, he ain't gonna make it out alive. Being a "nonce" is bad enough, but being a Famous nonce? Shank city.
Even if they put him in solitary, prisoners have a way of getting in and slicing and blinding, and so on. One of my mates dads used to be a prison guard, and he said, if
someone goes inside having done what Watkins did, the guards will let the other angry prisoners in the cell, and then act as if nothing has happened. Doesn't happen often, but it happens.
Even if they put him in solitary, prisoners have a way of getting in and slicing and blinding, and so on. One of my mates dads used to be a prison guard, and he said, if
someone goes inside having done what Watkins did, the guards will let the other angry prisoners in the cell, and then act as if nothing has happened. Doesn't happen often, but it happens.
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I don't really understand the reduced time for pleading guilty. I mean, it just gives real assholes like this an immediate out.
he's obviously screwed and he knows he did it so admit guilt and 'bam' reduced time in jail.
his quote still gets me
nice try 'doing your charm' mate.
also I think that everyone MIGHT be getting freaked out because you raped an infant.
he's obviously screwed and he knows he did it so admit guilt and 'bam' reduced time in jail.
his quote still gets me
nice try 'doing your charm' mate.
also I think that everyone MIGHT be getting freaked out because you raped an infant.
It's 35 years, and based on his reaction to the trial, he's not coming out. It's just the principle of the thing.
Extra Sauce
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The main argument against death penalty for me is that regardless of whether someone deserves to die for their crimes, you can't trust the government to be infallible. Governments make mistakes, that's just an undeniable fact and in a death penalty system it's only a matter of time before someone is wrongly executed. Even if it happens once out of ten thousand cases, that's still unacceptable.
VanquishUK
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Famous, and a child rapist in prison? He'll either be taken care of or murdered very fast.
Stumpokapow
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They do this so that there is an incentive for other cases to plead guilty. If we start saying "Pleading guilty might get you a discount unless your crime is just, like, the worst, in which case you won't get a discount" then all the people committing the worst crimes will not plead guilty, meaning that prosecuting them will cost more and some will be acquitted.
Nemesis121
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He won't be placed in general population, this dude has a target on his back..
captainnapalm
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Are UK prisons dangerous in this way, though? Do people get shanked and stuff there?
Yes. The guy that killed April Jones has already been slashed in prison. As has Ian Huntley (another child murderer)
Its rare they end up dead though.
BlazingDarkness
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Opus Angelorum
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captainnapalm
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Interesting. This guy is in for a rough time, considering the facts that have emerged in this case. I love that prisoners have a kind of code where even they can't abide by this kind of shit.
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I never knew what 'nonce' meant. I just though calling someone a nonce was like calling them a 'dummy' or a 'dingbat' or something. I should probably apologise to some people.
The Incarnation
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Death penalty.
Nah, the only reason I'm against the death penalty though is a weird one. Nations that have it, seem to have the worst natural disasters.
Nature likes to compensate x10.
Nah, the only reason I'm against the death penalty though is a weird one. Nations that have it, seem to have the worst natural disasters.
Nature likes to compensate x10.
Damn sounds like Dexter.
What if a person commits a crime, just to go to prison to administer vigilante justice?
OriginalThinking
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There is no defense force for Ian Watkins. He's a sick twisted individual who will spend a great deal of time in prison. There was debate about whether the re-introduction of the death penalty is something which the British Government should sanction.
But the reduction to "Hey if you're not pro death penalty then you're defending Watkins" is typical "if you're not with us, you're against us" thinking.
Mattlikewhoa
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There's a code that even inmates follow... He will get his for sure in gen pop, unless he decides to stay in solitary confinement for those 35 years...
PflargBlarg
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Opus Angelorum
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Well in this instance the killer of the child killer got a longer sentence for killing him than the child killer originally received.
Hey add me to the Ian Watkins Defence Force as well I guess, since I don't condone the death penalty and also would not want the state to facilitate his murder by another inmate. As long as he never gets his freedom back again, I'm fine with it.
Maybe it's all the violence in TV's and Video Games, etc, but murder no matter what the person did is as big as a taboo as rape, doing either to a child is obviously more heinous, but still, sanctioning one while condemning the other does not compute for me.
Maybe it's all the violence in TV's and Video Games, etc, but murder no matter what the person did is as big as a taboo as rape, doing either to a child is obviously more heinous, but still, sanctioning one while condemning the other does not compute for me.
i think apoc87 was refering to this post/the post of orignalthinking: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=94013689&postcount=107
Backfoggen
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Why do I never take the warning. Fucking hell.
welp, time to chop that leg off
CharmingCharlie
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As a side line to this :-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25447856
I can't say I blame H from Steps doing this, not particularly something you want to be associated with. To be honest E! Entertainment should be heavily sanctioned for such a blatantly moronic mistake.
BBC News said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25447856
I can't say I blame H from Steps doing this, not particularly something you want to be associated with. To be honest E! Entertainment should be heavily sanctioned for such a blatantly moronic mistake.
NekoFever
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I remember listening to an American podcast (maybe TWIT) where there was a British guest, and the host called him a nonce, acting like it was a jovial insult. The Brit was like, "Wait... what did you call me?"
This is why death penalty arguments are futile in cases like this, because you get idiots who think if you don't think he should get the full Ramsay Bolton treatment you must be defending paedophilia.
Guess what? You can think he's the scum of the earth, lowest of the low, hope he never sees freedom again, and still not be in favour of the government killing him. Crazy, I know.
It was an easy mistake to make, especially because it's most likely done by an intern just googling, "Ian Watkins Music" on google images
Ovek
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Yep pedos and child murders are hated (with good fucking reason!) and targeted very quickly... however all of them (depending on prison) are grouped together away from the general prison population.
High profile cases will be put in to solitary for there own safety... but as Ian Huntley found out guards can't/choose not to see everything.
Ovek
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I will vote for any government that wants to bring back the noose.
Do I think Ian Watkins should be hanged? No but I do think he should be permanently chemically castrated just like all other pedos.
However I do think Adebolajo and Adebowale who killed Lee Rigby should already be hanging from a noose, instead tax payer money will be spent on on keeping them safe while they will be free to continue there to spread there vile hate in prison, fucking yay to the UK.
EsotericManiac
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Thankfully, the kids that were abused that were super young probably won't remember most of the heinous acts.
hopefully they'll find good foster parents and have a better life
hopefully they'll find good foster parents and have a better life
OriginalThinking
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Well if he'd read my posts correctly he would know that I wasn't suggesting that he was innocent or that there is a conspiracy theory against Watkins. Simply that the court/legal/law system isn't perfect, can be fooled and capital punishment shouldn't be reintroduced. There are additional points I could make about convictions being about justice, not revenge and about the rehabilitation of offenders and the safety of the public rather than an eye for an eye. Then there's that capital punishment doesn't prevent people from committing crime so it's no more an effective deterrent than prison time.
Listen had it been any of my relatives I'd want him dead. No doubt. But I know the problems in society and in world history that revenge brings and I don't want that in my society. That's why I'm glad the justice system in my country doesn't allow for it. It's as much to protect us from the predators in our society as it is to protect us from our worst instincts.
Maybe he was born this way...it's a psychological illness...
That is possible, but that's pretty extreme shit to start up unless you were exposed to it at some point.
I wish I could strap generators to my rolling eyes, I could power Birmingham for a year.
Any particular reason to bring back Capital Punishment besides there being a few specific people you want dead? Because it doesn't work as a deterrent, it's not cost effective, and it inevitably leads to innocent people being murdered.
EDIT:Oh yeah,and we'd have to leave the EU, basically destroying the whole economy in the first place.
The Incarnation
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Code my arse. A bunch of sociopaths who think it's okay to kill someone because they got a funny look in a nightclub or something.
Murderers are in prison for a reason.
Nevermind their code. Having no respect for life anyway would make it easy for them to kill a paedophile. Make no mistake the ones that do that do it for gaining a rep and fame, it's got nothing to do with their so-called disgust of the crime.
Bluekaveli
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I just read the sentence and wow. I want my mom and dad right now. I just don't understand how can people do this to kids or anyone for that matter.
Opus Angelorum
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Seems like his girlfriend was just as bad:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11325658/Ian-Watkins-child-abuse-girlfriend-of-Lost-Prophets-star-shared-his-fantasies.html
Absolutely disgusting.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11325658/Ian-Watkins-child-abuse-girlfriend-of-Lost-Prophets-star-shared-his-fantasies.html
Absolutely disgusting.
ComputerMKII
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I have a hard time even processing the information in my head
Megalolz? This guy is clearly a massive scumbag who realizes he has nothing left to lose and is just going all in on his scumbaggery
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