Kinda alarming how people were just posting stuff like this
and no one seemed to care
Probably because people say all sorts of shit on the Internet, non-stop (especially comments sections) so it tends to become background noise.
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Lostprophets Singer Ian Watkins Sentenced to 35 Years in Prison
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Probably because people say all sorts of shit on the Internet, non-stop (especially comments sections) so it tends to become background noise.
Miles Quaritch
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It's a UK jail no? He'll probably be placed in vulnerable / protective wing. Don't really see him entering gen pop due to the risk of harm from others...
Miles Quaritch
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Bot sure I agree. There are countless examples where the people closest to the one carrying out such acts were completely oblivious to what they were doing.
But that's something like a family where the rapist would do it when he's at work, or the kids are at school.
Bandmates travel together all year long. There's rarely a time they're not near one another.
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6V7kD6gdJo
Bandmates travel together all year long. There's rarely a time they're not near one another.
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6V7kD6gdJo
wsoxfan1214
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I'm sorry, but I wish nothing short of the worst on this dude. He's a scumbag. What he did to these kids is going to be with them forever now. Add on his statements, his computer (files and password), etc.
I don't give a flying fuck if someone kills him in prison. Part of me hopes someone does.
Hopefully the guards do a number on him if that's the case. I don't think anyone would give a shit about what happens to him one way or another.
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I think it's pretty relevant actually now you mention it. After what Theon did in Season 2 I think a lot of people would have been happy for him to be tortured and mutilated. Yet after seeing what Ramsey does to him, I think most people began to pity him. When someone is tortured it's bad, even when they've done terrible things.
Folks thinking he'll get stabbed up in prison are probably off the mark. They don't throw high-profile pedos in with general population.
Reading those sentencing remarks, christ. I still can't figure out whether it was a power thing or a sexual thing. Either way I'm pleased he won't be seeing the light of day for 20+ years.
Reading those sentencing remarks, christ. I still can't figure out whether it was a power thing or a sexual thing. Either way I'm pleased he won't be seeing the light of day for 20+ years.
A few years ago there was actually an alleged photo of him sucking off some dude, and it got dismissed as not him, but now I'm wondering. And the extra worrying part is I'm wondering, if it was him, how old that dude was.
Or maybe thinking 'boy wouldn't it have been a much better story if being gay was what came out' instead of this.
Or maybe thinking 'boy wouldn't it have been a much better story if being gay was what came out' instead of this.
Even then, book 5 spoilers
Stannis is going to kill him for his crimes
Does the answer 'Heroin' 'Right Said Fred' or 'Smack' prove your point? Yeah bands spend a lot of time together on tour, but they don't all live together in a big house you know, it's not like the Monkees..
those sick fucks
CyclopsRock
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That sentencing document is utterly, utterly incredible. It's just... genuinely unbelievable.
I feel sick...never wished I could forget reading something more.
No, he had 27TB but spread over them. Not saying it's better but he didn't have 27TB worth.
Ian Huntley was attacked several times and nearly killed at HMP Wakefield - the same place Watkins is at. Ian Watkins will either die in jail or spend 99% of his time in solitary and on suicide watch, with the remaining 1% of his time looking over his shoulder. Either way it's going to be a miserable existence.
NaughtyCalibur
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27TB?! What sickens me most is that there exists 27TB of child pornography out there.
What the fuck.
Out of curiosity, why are the sentencing remarks so graphically detailed? It's not like a prosecutor is concluding his case before a jury. It's a judge who has already decided on the outcome, right? Would just listening off the verdicts and sentences not be enough or do they need to be extremely explicit for 'people' to believe they are guilty?
The fact that this piece of shit will be again a free man in 35 years is beyond sickening.
Seriously, i cannot tolerate that idea.
I do not believe in god, but i just hope with all my heart he gets what he deserves in prison and then he gets killed after some kind of horrible punishment.
And that would NEVER, EVER be close enough to compensate what he did.
Seriously, i cannot tolerate that idea.
I do not believe in god, but i just hope with all my heart he gets what he deserves in prison and then he gets killed after some kind of horrible punishment.
And that would NEVER, EVER be close enough to compensate what he did.
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His favourite groups on there were also:
After School
Bad Parents
Daddies and Daughters
Dirty Parents
Incest and Taboo
Molesting
and Welovescat
Saintguine
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Oh, do you just feel the Glitter in the air?
WAT
Its a summary of how he came to how long to sentence him for. You can't just say "I sentence him to 35 years because I feel like it".
NekoFever
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Yeah, Ian Huntley was under protection because of his profile and still got boiling water thrown on him and his throat slashed.
captainnapalm
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This story is just crazy. And the way in which he could find women to give their children to him is really shocking.
It also seems like he was barely trying to hide this stuff, which makes me wonder about what his fellow band members knew.
It also seems like he was barely trying to hide this stuff, which makes me wonder about what his fellow band members knew.
I'd be careful about blaming his bandmates or suggesting they had any knowledge of what was going on. Regardless of how "open" about his abuse he seemed to be with hindsight, paedophiles are very good at hiding how depraved and fucked up they are from people who they aren't manipulating and/or abusing.
If there's any evidence on the contrary that the bandmates knew something, then the police should take action, but so far there's been nothing of the sort. They are probably just as horrified as you and me about all of this.
If there's any evidence on the contrary that the bandmates knew something, then the police should take action, but so far there's been nothing of the sort. They are probably just as horrified as you and me about all of this.
The Henery
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So cavalier about it. Utterly disturbing. He's even got the child catcher aesthetic to him. To anyone who knew about this prior to his arrest and didn't do everything in their power to stop him, shame on them.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Jesus Christ. I started to read the report from the court, I don't know what I expected, but the detail in that....fuck man. I couldn't make it through that shit.
This guy and all the women involved deserve to never see the light of day again.
This guy and all the women involved deserve to never see the light of day again.
The Incarnation
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Unlikely, he's a dead man walking. The guards won't give a shit either. Especially if one or two are planning on changing jobs anytime soon.
Thomas_Daly
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Yes shame on the police forces who were told in 2008 but did nothing. Heads need to roll.
Nicktendo86
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Yep, doubt the prison staff would be too fussed about his well being either. They have to do their job, and if anything happens to him questions will need to be answered, but 'accidents' happen.
The thing that gets me is he doesn't seem to even understand that he has done anything wrong, judging by his megalolz comment etc. Madness.
show me your skeleton
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ugh. stop that.
I don't wish death on anyone, but that guy is an evil, twisted and wicked bastard!
BlazingDarkness
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Watkins should be fed nothing but dog food for the rest of his life.
I have never heard this band and now seems like a bad time to change that...
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I'm not sure how Wales does it, but a lot of countries have a sort of provision for this where they check if the user should be released at release time. for horrible criminals like this it's always 'at risk of reoffending' and they just jail em forever.
Yeah not sure if this is the case for this ruling but usually these sentences are just the minimum amount of time before they can be considered for release, not a date when they will definitely be released.
Yeah preventive detention. As a side note, the EU ruled that whole-life sentences breached prisoners' human rights, so I imagine this will be used in a lot of cases where whole-life sentences would have otherwise been imposed from this point on.
captainnapalm
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Actually, prisoners usually become eligible for parole after they serve half their sentence, I think. Pretty sure the judge mentions that in his verdict too. So he would become eligible after 17 years. Not that they'd necessarily let him out.
The ECHR ruled that the Home Secretary could not enforce a whole life tariff, but judges can still hand down a whole life tariff. This takes it out of the hands of the home secretary and it's only used for the most serious crimes, as you would expect. Here is the list of people on whole life sentences. Mark Bridger (the Welsh man who killed a little girl called April Jones) was given a whole life sentence earlier this year.
Indeterminate sentences are sentences with a minimum term but no fixed release date. They are different from the whole life tariffs. They were introduced in 2003 but were deemed unlawful by the ECHR last year. The judge said in his remarks:
He said he could have sentenced Watkins to an "denunciatory" indeterminate sentence, but he chose not to. I'm not exactly sure what this is, so maybe someone else could clear that up.
The judge said:
So on a 35 year term that means a minimum of 23 years. He automatically gets a third off because he pleaded guilty, but the judge said that because he pleaded guilty so late on, he could have waved this right, but chose not to.
captainnapalm
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Thanks for the correction, I do remember reading something about the length of term and parole.
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