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Exclusive Invitation for an Xbox One Alpha Trial [Titanfall]
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That's what I think as well. Last gen we basically just had Brink and Mirrors Edge both of which were flops sales wise. Brink actually has some pretty similar movement. Too bad it's dookie. At least more devs will realize that there's a Z-axis and that using it to move around can be fun. There's always been a small handful of relatively niche games with good movement but either the skillcap is too high or they're flawed in another way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBQqD8mv0XM
That running animation in third person is pretty bad.
Just looks like Call of Duty with Mechs
to me. The added vertical gameplay doesn't seem to add too much... yet. Who knows, maybe it's just the players playing the round but it doesn't seem like a "gamechanger" that the industry wants to hype it up to be. Just a retread with some sidesteps. :/
Just looks like Call of Duty with Mechs
(and less players)
Fuck plants. Shit make things hard to see. My eyes aren't what they used to be, lol.
EL CUCO
Member
That's the work of Activision. EA will just throw some explosions on some 5 year old Rihanna chorus.
Yeah, for a multiplayer only game I'd expect like at least 12+ maps and a fair number of modes, especially given it's full retail.
There is crouch but no Prone.
i can handle that. good.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Low TTK, no recoil, copious amounts of aiming down sights.
Hype demolished
Introducing fast double-jumpy, wall-running parkour and wormy maps makes this a non-issue, IMO. Videos just don't convey the difference well enough like actually playing it. ADS seems almost a bit pointless to include when the game enables so many ways to stop incoming fire or dodge it..
There is a DMR Rifle in the Alpha for sniping. No quick-scoping that I have seen. They might end up with bolt-action ones but nobody as seen or heard anything.
Yes there are classes but they are more load-our choices than anything. Again, this is bound to be fleshed out more as things get announced. Basically picking between More Anti-Titan style Pilot, or a Stealthy one or Balanced.
Not enough information on the weapons and progression to see stuff but you can certainly build around a playstyle Or at least that's the plan.
Bedameister
Member
We don't even know who delevoped it. So no, we know nothing about the 360 version at all
la flama blanca
Banned
I dont know if I'd actually buy this game, but since I'm getting it for free I'm pretty hyped to try it out.
Phire Phox
Banned
I would assume 60. All the cods on 360 for 60. It'll probably be sub 720p though.
Oh wow, that bodes really well for the 360 version.
LinkToTheFuture
Member
Looks vs actually playing is very different =P This is coming from someone who really played mw1 and a decent amount of mw2. The movement alone really changes how fights are approached and handled. Saying the vertical factors dont really add anything is a very ignorant statement. In cod you cant turn around on someone that started shooting you and do a bunch of crazy wall bouncing maneuvers all while returning fire and killing the person that saw you first. In cod if someone catches you in the back your dead.
This alone makes it a whole world away from cod. Not even talking about the mechs which is an entirely different fight and mind game entirely.
This cod with mechs branding really needs to stop this game is not that. The only thing cod and this game share is the basic ADS mechanic and the fact that they are FPS. but that is where the similarities end. Grenade play, movement, skill gap, the titans and meta game are going to go much much further than cod could ever go.
Have they ever ported down? Maybe with the Vita?
Holy shit, really?
If this turns out to be true most worries about the 360 port will be quelled.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Good.
Hopefully we'll see a "Beta" which will include another map or two and insight into where the weapons and attachments are going.
And yet any post in the last 9 months calling it CoD w/Mechs and Jetpacks was ridiculed.
I think it looks fun, but I'm not sure about the lasting power. Seems like it would get old pretty fast
Well, I think technically it's a lot less complex porting something from XB1 to XB360 than, say, the complex PS2 architecture to the equally, if not more complex PS3 architecture.
If this is true about Bluepoint then 360 peeps have nothing to fear.
Will wait for more reliable source. Otherwise, why the fuck would they not have announced this long ago?
LinkToTheFuture
Member
Yes unfortunately =( Seems to have gone by so fast. Lets pray for an Febuary beta!
Close range you can use Amp Grenades (Seems to fry the systems for a while) and then lock-on with Rockets. Also, we have hardly seen any of the other weapons or abilities for the Anti-Titan stuff. It seems really hard to concentrate on dodging a Titan as well as keeping an eye on Pilots trying to rodeo you.
Guard holds its place (Use them as decoys since pilots might not notice the Auto-Titan pop up), Follow follows you but obviously not into small buildings. It will engage enemies and you get the Titan Assist for it. It waits around until you either get in, or it explodes because of loneliness.
Thank you for the clarity -- so many cool tactical options with that.
Yeah I don't want to stop playing.
First world problems I know. I was lucky enough to get it early. It's just so much fun to out down.BuggeryBugz
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That's an arrogant comment to make.
If you really enjoy the game and find it interesting and are quite skilled at it, then who cares how many (COD) players there are. If it's easy for them, then you shouldn't have a problem.
Bringing up the talk about Grunts again, I really do hope the final build has a better improvement of their AI. I saw one of them just sitting in a room doing nothing. I was wondering why this orange dot was on my map and not moving. He wasn't taking a base or anything, he was just squatting in a room staring at a wall. This was Angel City. So I jetpacked into the room, and looked at him. I just stood there. He did nothing. So I killed him.
LinkToTheFuture
Member
There will definitely be a high skill ceiling to reach with some of the more crazy maneuvers. Its not a "lets make it easy so everyone wins" type of game from my experience. Its definitely easy to pick up the BASICS, but mastering high level movement in combat is another thing entirely.
so what's your over all opinion so far of the alpha over the past few days? Your usually pretty good about hashing out impressions
king grimlock
Member
i'm embarrassed to confirm that you can be killed by grunts
It's a lot of fun, first and foremost. The best thing about the game is the parkour elements. They are extremely simple, so on paper they might not seem impressive. But the fluidity of them and the ease of being able to pick it up means that it becomes second hand nature and opens up the game substantially when it comes to traversing. A lot is being made about the game feeling like CoD. And I guess? But I do feel the parkour elements really change the landscape and dynamic of the combat.
For example. I saw someone enter a room and I chased after him. As I entered the room I couldn't find the person. The player could have went 10 different ways and, that's because of the parkour elements. Within seconds they could scale the room and disappear. You couldn't have this sort of moment in CoD. CoD is much more twitch and your death is guaranteed.
One of the reasons I liked Halo, is that the shield afforded you the ability to survive a fight and escape. Retreating from an enemy was an actual strategy and it added more struggle to the combat. Similarly, a game like Battlefield also achieves this, by having large levels and better pacing. If you die In that game, it feels like you died because you didn't do everything you could have. The death was justified. I feel that element in CoD has been lost with every release. Titanfall conversely achieves this with the Parkour elements.
I think the Titans are a lot of fun and also change the dynamic. The way I see it, every match is a race to your team getting as many Titans on the map at the same time as possible. Multiple Titans can turn the tide in a Ttitan match and can leave a team with more Titans on the map unchallenged, thus more domination. And yet, there is still a fair balance. If you really are determined, you can kill a Titan on the ground as a soldier. You have special side weapons that specifically damage Titans more. But you have to constantly be moving and using your parkour and cloaks in between shooting or the Titan will kill you instantly. But this system ensures that Titans don't just dominate. Sometimes when in ur mech, you are constantly using your boost to get out an area and get in a place where ur not taking damage from all sides. So this is where I think Mechs are balanced. You have a shield and when it goes down, you are taking straight damage to your health. This encourages you to retreat, and so you are constantly moving as a mech. Again, I find this balance fair.
I didn't level up to the very high ranks, so I can't say enough about perks and weapons and of course this is an alpha, so it's limited in what they offered us. I do kind of wish there was more weapon variety. Again I don't know if what we got was severely limited. But I think the game needs more weapons, classes and ability to add on things to your weapons. If not, then I think the games weapon and class system feels dated. I personally never got bored, but if I had the game for months, and that's all we get, then I probably would.
I think the AI are really interesting. I think they function as creeps do in MOBAs. They become a resource and teams will gun specifically for them as they yield points and increase your Titanfall drop time. This is crucial, as you are trying to get as many Titans on the map as possible, so your team can control the Titan battles against the other team. So grunts end up being an element where teams traverse the map and don't camp. It keeps players moving and makes the map used to its fullest, which I think is clever game design. However the AI of these grunts is questionable. In the Alpha, they are basically fodder. They put up no resistance and are useless. Yeah there are different classes, and the higher the class the more they can do. Spectre AI for instance will actively shoot rockets at your Titans. And they will go the capture points in Domination mode to capture the areas. But they offer no challenge. I can walk up to 5 of them, and kill them all without them shooting me once. With smart pistol (a gun that auto targets all enemies in a certain range and even tells you how many times to squeeze the trigger) - you can take out grunts in one blow. So I question this, and hope that the final build tweaks them more.
All in all, I'm really impressed with this game. It's a pretty simplistic arcade style shooter, so don't expect this complex strategic shooter, it's not that. But it's simplicity is what makes it fun. Within an hour you will be wall running and bouncing off wall to wall and scaling large buildings. Bullets will be raining down on you from a Titan, and you will jet pack to avoid the bullets then run along a wall and jump across the Titan and dive through a window to safety. You will be in a mech and will be shooting an array of rockets and the pilot will fly up, and then you punch him with your fist and splatter him like a fly out of the air. The game allows for awesome moments like this, and it's all intuitive and accessible.
All in all, I think the quality and quantity of the maps will determine how good this game is. The controls are there. The overall mechanics and balance of the battle is there. But will there be enough maps that take advantage of this? Will there be enough variety to keep the game fun for a year? That's the question. The simplicity of it is a great asset, but it can also be it's downfall if the maps aren't great or varied enough, if the level up system doesn't give you enough options and incentive to keep playing.
But I can safely say they nailed the gameplay.
(sorry for any typos, i did this all on my phone).
Surprised. I've never been killed by a grunt, let alone taken hits. But even if you can, I stand by my statement that they are too easy to kill.
Conscience Falls
Member
Squeezing every last match out of this Alpha. 'Till they kick us off.
3rdamention
Member
I believe these guys are developing the 360 version? I believe that was what FamousMortimer may have said in the past.
http://bluepointgames.com/
http://playeressence.com/bluepoint-games-working-on-the-titanfall-xbox-360-port/
FamousMortimer is the source, via twitter.
BabeSlayer
Member
This game lives up to the hype. Haters can hate but this is just down right fun!
It's at 9pm PST so 50 more minutes
The tweet was deleted. I still think it's Certain Affinity.
Edit: damn double post
3rdamention
Member
For those that were complaining about the 6 vs 6 player count, wishing there was more human players.
I posted this in the other thread, but the thread was closed. I wonder if the fact that this game is being developed on 360 as well, somewhat hindered how many human controlled players can actually be in the game? This is an assumption, hear me out, but if you had 12 vs 12 for example, with everyone still being able to call a Titan every 3 minutes or less, you could have a scenario with 24 titans running around the map at the same time. We all know how much respect Respawn has for 60fps, that has been a goal from the beginning.
I wonder if the 360 version could still run all that carnage, at 60fps, without any slowdown. It would be chaotic and hectic (and awesome) but quite the chore on a last gen system. Especially with the speed this game is running at. I just do not know if more players would be possible.. Unless they gimped the 360 version or had to make major changes of some sort.
OR, Balance testing by Respawn could have honestly found that 6 vs 6 was the best fit, or they simply could be catering to the e-sports crowd as others have suggested in the past, where 6vs6 would be a great set up for professional tournaments.
Who really knows, but 6vs6 is what the game is, so complaining about it isn't going to change anything.
I posted this in the other thread, but the thread was closed. I wonder if the fact that this game is being developed on 360 as well, somewhat hindered how many human controlled players can actually be in the game? This is an assumption, hear me out, but if you had 12 vs 12 for example, with everyone still being able to call a Titan every 3 minutes or less, you could have a scenario with 24 titans running around the map at the same time. We all know how much respect Respawn has for 60fps, that has been a goal from the beginning.
I wonder if the 360 version could still run all that carnage, at 60fps, without any slowdown. It would be chaotic and hectic (and awesome) but quite the chore on a last gen system. Especially with the speed this game is running at. I just do not know if more players would be possible.. Unless they gimped the 360 version or had to make major changes of some sort.
OR, Balance testing by Respawn could have honestly found that 6 vs 6 was the best fit, or they simply could be catering to the e-sports crowd as others have suggested in the past, where 6vs6 would be a great set up for professional tournaments.
Who really knows, but 6vs6 is what the game is, so complaining about it isn't going to change anything.