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[Novan Leon]

I know this is an older post and has probably been quoted several times. But I'm just catching up on reading this thread today and holy shitballs. Ami you nailed it, exactly. Bow.

He missed the part where someone from the master race make the inevitable "PC gaming is superior" comment.

 

[pixlexic]

I couldn't get anywhere near 60fps with TressFX enabled on my 7850 and that's backed by an overclocked i7.

Has it been confirmed that the PS4 version will have TressFX enabled? If it does with settings equivalent to Ultra and definitely runs at a steady enough 60fps, then colour me impressed anyway.

The question is .. Is it the same tressfx? The screens I have seen the strands look thicker .. Meaning there is not as many as what I had on PC. Could be different in the final product though?

 

[delta25]

I have to say I'm a bit ashamed at PS4 gaf, a week ago the vast majority couldn't give two shits about 60fps, a week later, 60-fps has been confirmed and is now the vocal point and a major reason to brag. This was the very thing we were shitting on PC-gaf for.



I'm sorry PC gaf

 

[Interfectum]

how is 60 fps screwing us over?

the game plays fine at 30. it plays better at 60. Xbox One owners get a console version that runs at 30 fps or above, at a much higher resolution, with greatly improved effects when compared to the previous console versions.

PS4 owners get the higher resolution and improved effects with a much higher framerate to boot. putting all that extra power into increasing the framerate up to nearer your TV's max refresh... it's not screwing PS4 owners. not remotely.

I think his point was they probably could have upped the graphics even more on PS4 and hit the 30 fps mark instead of keeping the graphics the same and upping the frame rate.

Personally I'm glad they went this route instead of keeping PS4 at 30 fps.

 

[Smokey]

As a console player I have zero interest in PC gaming (a few steam game son my laptop).

Why ? No interest in using a keyboard and mouse to play games.

No interest and unbalanced online PC games - you know the other guy is running 120 fps on a 2 ms gaming monitor and is clicking pixels from a foot away with an uber gaming mouse. Probably optimised his FOV and wrote macros for gun fire-rate and other stuff. Add in other mods / cheats etc and well I will stop.

I want to sit in living room and play against people with a LEVEL playing field.

PC has little relevance to many console players.

There is NO SALT, and never will be.

Good thing I played TR with a game pad.

My response was to the claim that a gaming PC is obsolete by a piece of hardware with tablet specs because it's able to do 1080p. Laughable and most likely an early morning troll that I fell for.

 

[geordiemp]

This game is a joke sorry but the only console it should of came out on was the Wii U. With it coming out on the Xbox One and PS4 its almost like a slap in the face of the consumer laughing at them saying " HA HA HA what a dumbass you are, your new console is not backwards compatible and we will take advantage of it". If you are wondering why I said Wii U at the beginning well it never came out for a nintendo console so I would not mind it, but as it stands right now its the laziest thing I have ever seen. A port of a game from last year on the same user bases of xbox and PlayStation. If anything this game is the poster child for why backward compatibility should be standard. As for the frame rate who gives a shit, if you are dumb enough to get this game for the PS4/ XBONE and not the 360 or ps3 then you are already stupid. Sorry but wasn't that the game they said was a failure and thier charging full price for this port? How much is the one from last year cost, what its cheap? I am not saying tomb raider is a bad game. But if any of you support the next gen version I must say that is really sad, I know there is nothing to play but do not buy this game. Its odd the one thing that would be nice on PS4 and xbone is some that the WII U has in full force. I really wish they were backward compatible.

The return key is quite useful in helping form paragraphs so people can read what you say. Yes, we are all dumb, thank you.

Maybe we did not buy it for 360 / Ps3, many games at end of last gen I skipped on knowing I was moving to next gen.

Look at the Pal sales thread in UK, many Ps4 in top 10, the market was tired of last gen in 2013.

Yes, some pubs should re-release last year games if they did not sell well, and improve the game, you never know, there is a desire for better quality games...

 

[eznark]

I have to say I'm a bit ashamed at PS4 gaf, a week ago the vast majority couldn't give two shits about 60fps, a week later, 60-fps has been confirmed and is now the vocal point and a major reason to brag. This was the very thing we were shitting on PC-gaf for.



I'm sorry PC gaf

Master race all went out and bought PS4's last night since their PC's are obsolete. So these are all probably new converts.

 

[benny_a]

I have to say I'm a bit ashamed at PS4 gaf, a week ago the vast majority couldn't give two shits about 60fps, a week later, 60-fps has been confirmed and is now the vocal point and a major reason to brag. This was the very thing we were shitting on PC-gaf for.



I'm sorry PC gaf

Point those posters out. Or should I feel that you spoke to me when you addressed PS4 gaf, because I also own a PS4?

But then again I also own a PC so I'm also PC gaf. Fuck this is confusing. Maybe just use the quote function, makes it easier to follow.

 

[Jigolo]

This is what happens when one console is using a much stronger GPU.

 

[Curufinwe]

Don't worry guys, I'm on Gies-Watch

How much pre-launch stuff turned out wrong, Ross Fisher? Start with with everything Microsoft employees and supporters said about the consoles having the same amount of power.

 

[TnK]

Just came in to say: this reached 50+ pages in almost record time, lol.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Point those posters out. Or should I feel that you spoke to me when you addressed PS4 gaf, because I also own a PS4?

But then again I also own a PC so I'm also PC gaf. Fuck this is confusing. Maybe just use the quote function, makes it easier to follow.

I'm glad someone shares my hatred of broad generalizations as well.

 

[ElTorro]

 

[geordiemp]

Good thing I played TR with a game pad.

My response was to the claim that a gaming PC is obsolete by a piece of hardware with tablet specs because it's able to do 1080p. Laughable.

What is you point, coming into a console thread to tell everyone you played the game at better settings ?????

How is it relevant, and why do PC players ALWAYS do this on console comparison threads.

Do you think we are impressed ?

Does it add to the discussion ?

Do you think we want to run out and build a gaming rig ?

Or do PC players like to show off their specs (my GPU is bigger) ?

Its afternoon where I am - do you think we all live in USA ?

 

[plagiarize]

I think his point was they probably could have upped the graphics even more on PS4 and hit the 30 fps mark instead of keeping the graphics the same and upping the frame rate.

Personally I'm glad they went this route instead of keeping PS4 at 30 fps.

Of course they could have, but using the power overhead of the PS4 to hit 60 fps or 1080p (when the Xbox One version isn't already running at that resolution) is never screwing PS4 owners.

 

[pixlexic]

how is 60 fps screwing us over?

the game plays fine at 30. it plays better at 60. Xbox One owners get a console version that runs at 30 fps or above, at a much higher resolution, with greatly improved effects when compared to the previous console versions.

PS4 owners get the higher resolution and improved effects with a much higher framerate to boot. putting all that extra power into increasing the framerate up to nearer your TV's max refresh... it's not screwing PS4 owners. not remotely.

It's not a bad thing. It's not screwing us over. I didn't say that.

the ps4 is more powerful and could do more graphically than the xbone. The reason for the 60 fps is obviously that they made the graphics the same for both aka parity.

Which was what he was taking about.

This need to attack everyone who is isn't over the top gushing needs to stop.

 

[Lunar]

Doesn't make it okay for you to insult people.

Don't take the insult to seriously, I never said tomb raider is a bad game and I know there will be fans getting this. More of less the only people that I attend to insult are the ones who defend the idea of doing ports like this. Fans of the game no, i am talking about people that say of have nothing to play on next gen and would say that this is needed. All this game does for me is show why I should still be pissed and sony and Microsoft for not doing full backward compatibility. I will be renting the game though I might rent both versions just to see how much has changed.

 

[RE_Player]

Brilliant.

 

[fade_]

LOL you never cease to amaze me ElTorro

 

[benny_a]

I'm glad someone shares my hatred of broad generalizations as well.

The very best thing about this all, if you show how someone is being a massive hypocrite that just trolls, the result is that person is banned and we have on less disingenuous poster among our ranks.

And I personally want to know if someone is arguing in good faith or not.

 

[SmokyDave]

Good thing I played TR with a game pad.

My response was to the claim that a gaming PC is obsolete by a piece of hardware with tablet specs because it's able to do 1080p. Laughable and most likely an early morning troll that I fell for.

Woah! Which tablet? I'll seriously consider changing my iPad for a tablet that outperforms the PS4.

 

[OldAsUrSock]

Data has cursed before!?

 

[KageMaru]

lol

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

I have to say I'm a bit ashamed at PS4 gaf, a week ago the vast majority couldn't give two shits about 60fps, a week later, 60-fps has been confirmed and is now the vocal point and a major reason to brag. This was the very thing we were shitting on PC-gaf for.



I'm sorry PC gaf

The biggest irony is some of Microsofts (First and third party) biggest franchises have been 60FPS while most of Sonys best loved games (Bar GT) have struggled to Mantain a locked 30FPS.

 

[DC R1D3R]

haha nice one son, activate deflector shield!!

 

[AbandonedTrolley]

This game is a joke sorry but the only console it should of came out on was the Wii U. With it coming out on the Xbox One and PS4 its almost like a slap in the face of the consumer laughing at them saying " HA HA HA what a dumbass you are, your new console is not backwards compatible and we will take advantage of it". If you are wondering why I said Wii U at the beginning well it never came out for a nintendo console so I would not mind it, but as it stands right now its the laziest thing I have ever seen. A port of a game from last year on the same user bases of xbox and PlayStation. If anything this game is the poster child for why backward compatibility should be standard. As for the frame rate who gives a shit, if you are dumb enough to get this game for the PS4/ XBONE and not the 360 or ps3 then you are already stupid. Sorry but wasn't that the game they said was a failure and thier charging full price for this port? How much is the one from last year cost, what its cheap? I am not saying tomb raider is a bad game. But if any of you support the next gen version I must say that is really sad, I know there is nothing to play but do not buy this game. Its odd the one thing that would be nice on PS4 and xbone is some that the WII U has in full force. I really wish they were backward compatible.

Wow! I never bought it on the PS3, does that mean that I should go buy a gaming PC to experience it in 1080? Or should I just drop £40 to play it on my PS4? I don't care if it's a game from the previous generation, it's more that just a HD upgrade from the older consoles and as such I'm happy to pay full price for it. That's like saying that with multiplat games they should only charge full price for one of the versions, as they can reuse assets on the other console!

 

[OldAsUrSock]

Would it impress you if someone had tweaked their settings to get a relatively steady 60fps on the game whilst running @1080p, ultra settings TressFX enabled on an i3 with a 7850?

Genuinely curious.

That is not possible with a 7850. I tried to do that, but only get 40-48fps.

 

[purpletentacle]

 

[FonkyByNature]

Again ElTorro, amazing gif !!!

 

[x-Lundz-x]

I have a man crush on you.

 

[iceatcs]

Can't moneyhat this.

True for Sony. It is free market for them but MS got to spent the thing if want to be equal or make up. Another MS's wallet victim.

 

[BotoxAgent]

I have to say I'm a bit ashamed at PS4 gaf, a week ago the vast majority couldn't give two shits about 60fps, a week later, 60-fps has been confirmed and is now the vocal point and a major reason to brag. This was the very thing we were shitting on PC-gaf for.



I'm sorry PC gaf

I haven't played Tomb Raider yet. But I had this preordered on the PS4 knowing that this game will probably be most likely 30FPS. I have been perfectly fine with 30 FPS for this type of game.

But this ~60FPS is just a nice surprise. It just further cements the obvious power gap between the X1 and the PS4. And it gives me hope that the PS4 has some legs during this generation when it comes to raw power and performance and for the games I am really anticipating for.

 

[dragonelite]

i hope this gen is 8 years long again. the games are running 1080/60 and the console wars are full of hilarity

ps4 is basically making xbox ones and gaming pcs obselete, and the resulting saltiness is so delicious

Wait wut?

 

[knerlington]

I rather square port one of the HD remake games coming to ps3 or lightning returns than this garbage of a game. Why on earth did they decide to port this game which already has a superior pc version....

Yeah I started playing it expecting to fight for survival while having to watch my steps, hide my tracks and having to tend to my wounds. Having to track and hunt animals for food.
The potential this game had was lost entirely.

 

[nubbe]

We are heading into the twilight zone now

 

[sadmaker]

What is you point, coming into a console thread to tell everyone you played the game at better settings ?????

How is it relevant, and why do PC players ALWAYS do this on console comparison threads.

Do you think we are impressed ?

Does it add to the discussion ?

Do you think we want to run out and build a gaming rig ?

Or do PC players like to show off their specs (my GPU is bigger) ?

This x 1,000,000. As someone wholly uninterested in PC gaming, I cant gloss over the elitist posts fast enough

 

[fade_]

i hope this gen is 8 years long again. the games are running 1080/60 and the console wars are full of hilarity

ps4 is basically making xbox ones and gaming pcs obselete, and the resulting saltiness is so delicious

The PS4 being able to produce 60 fps in this game is impressive considering its hardware but lets not get carried away here...

 

[Rainy Dog]

I have to say I'm a bit ashamed at PS4 gaf, a week ago the vast majority couldn't give two shits about 60fps, a week later, 60-fps has been confirmed and is now the vocal point and a major reason to brag. This was the very thing we were shitting on PC-gaf for.



I'm sorry PC gaf

For me it's not the point of 60fps or bust. Just the fact that a multiplatform game is running at twice the framerate on the PS4 then the XB1. Just like playing COD Ghosts at 720p wouldn't render the game unplayable by any strech either.

But after the way MS and the media was trying to pull the wool over the average persons eyes regarding the reality of the power gap between these consoles, it's all sweet justice as far as I'm concerned.

Not only that, I did honestly think that it had got to a point where MS had such a stranglehold on developers and the majority of the gaming media, that they'd somehow manage to agressively strong arm parity and hold back the PS4 in third party games.

 

[derExperte]

What is you point, coming into a console thread to tell everyone you played the game at better settings ?????

How is it relevant, and why do PC players ALWAYS do this on console comparison threads.

So you complain about him but not the shitty post he replied to? And after the last few months you better not pretend that console gamers don't enter PC centric threads to take a dump. It's become pretty bad.

 

[delta25]

Point those posters out. Or should I feel that you spoke to me when you addressed PS4 gaf, because I also own a PS4?

But then again I also own a PC so I'm also PC gaf. Fuck this is confusing. Maybe just use the quote function, makes it easier to follow.

It's no one in particular but more so the idea that a week ago it was PC gaf peddling 60fps as the be all and end all, now its the opposite.

 

[CorrisD]

I came into this topic when it was made, I come back and its been 55 unclean commoner pages later. It's pretty great news though, I was picking up the PS4 version regardless, but I can't argue with a better frame rate.

Hah, brilliant.

 

[QaaQer]

Just no dude, the Titan doesn't get 60 fps 100% of the time on Tomb Raider with everything cranked up sorry.

This benchmark isnt even on 1080p and it gets a min fps of 19. That's with FXAA on not even SSAA the better AA technique the game has...

Lazy devs not optimizing for 40 types of gfx cards, 40 kinds of cpus, 3 different OSes and every permutation of those three.

 

[Ivan]

Example

Direct Compute heavy game:
Xbone 8 CU for traditional rendering, 4 CU for Direct Compute
PS4 ordinary engine - 14 CU for traditional rendering, 4 CU for Direct Compute
PS4 optimized engine - 15 CUfor traditional rendering, 3 CU for Direct compute [job of one DC CU transfered over first 15 CUs]

Performance gulf will widen whenever Xbone needs more DC.

Nice explaination form DieH@rd, as usual...

 

[OldAsUrSock]

What is you point, coming into a console thread to tell everyone you played the game at better settings ?????

How is it relevant, and why do PC players ALWAYS do this on console comparison threads.

Do you think we are impressed ?

Does it add to the discussion ?

Do you think we want to run out and build a gaming rig ?

Or do PC players like to show off their specs (my GPU is bigger) ?

Its afternoon where I am - do you think we all live in USA ?

He mentioned running TR at 4K because this dude said that PCs are obsolete. It was the console gamer not PC guy that brought the comparison in here.

This x 1,000,000. As someone wholly uninterested in PC gaming, I cant gloss over the elitist posts fast enough

Stop with the hyperbole.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

This game is a joke sorry but the only console it should of came out on was the Wii U. With it coming out on the Xbox One and PS4 its almost like a slap in the face of the consumer laughing at them saying " HA HA HA what a dumbass you are, your new console is not backwards compatible and we will take advantage of it". If you are wondering why I said Wii U at the beginning well it never came out for a nintendo console so I would not mind it, but as it stands right now its the laziest thing I have ever seen. A port of a game from last year on the same user bases of xbox and PlayStation. If anything this game is the poster child for why backward compatibility should be standard. As for the frame rate who gives a shit, if you are dumb enough to get this game for the PS4/ XBONE and not the 360 or ps3 then you are already stupid. Sorry but wasn't that the game they said was a failure and thier charging full price for this port? How much is the one from last year cost, what its cheap? I am not saying tomb raider is a bad game. But if any of you support the next gen version I must say that is really sad, I know there is nothing to play but do not buy this game. Its odd the one thing that would be nice on PS4 and xbone is some that the WII U has in full force. I really wish they were backward compatible.

Yay, an old-fashioned meltdown. Yippie!!!

 

[gamerforever]

Does raise the big question of whether Xbox One is even a viable multiplatform machine now as the situation seems to be much worse than the PS3/ Xbox 360 differences that occurred.

I am glad I have a PS4, that's for sure!

 

[SimpleGamer]

This game is a joke sorry but the only console it should of came out on was the Wii U. With it coming out on the Xbox One and PS4 its almost like a slap in the face of the consumer laughing at them saying " HA HA HA what a dumbass you are, your new console is not backwards compatible and we will take advantage of it". If you are wondering why I said Wii U at the beginning well it never came out for a nintendo console so I would not mind it, but as it stands right now its the laziest thing I have ever seen. A port of a game from last year on the same user bases of xbox and PlayStation. If anything this game is the poster child for why backward compatibility should be standard. As for the frame rate who gives a shit, if you are dumb enough to get this game for the PS4/ XBONE and not the 360 or ps3 then you are already stupid. Sorry but wasn't that the game they said was a failure and thier charging full price for this port? How much is the one from last year cost, what its cheap? I am not saying tomb raider is a bad game. But if any of you support the next gen version I must say that is really sad, I know there is nothing to play but do not buy this game. Its odd the one thing that would be nice on PS4 and xbone is some that the WII U has in full force. I really wish they were backward compatible.

Lol wow. It's also 1080p too

 

[hwateber]

This x 1,000,000. As someone wholly uninterested in PC gaming, I cant gloss over the elitist posts fast enough

It's really just a vocal minority of PC GAF. I have a great rig and game on it more than on my consoles, but sometimes I'm surprised by how invested these people are in their agenda

 

[yuraya]

This game is a joke sorry but the only console it should of came out on was the Wii U. With it coming out on the Xbox One and PS4 its almost like a slap in the face of the consumer laughing at them saying " HA HA HA what a dumbass you are, your new console is not backwards compatible and we will take advantage of it". If you are wondering why I said Wii U at the beginning well it never came out for a nintendo console so I would not mind it, but as it stands right now its the laziest thing I have ever seen. A port of a game from last year on the same user bases of xbox and PlayStation. If anything this game is the poster child for why backward compatibility should be standard. As for the frame rate who gives a shit, if you are dumb enough to get this game for the PS4/ XBONE and not the 360 or ps3 then you are already stupid. Sorry but wasn't that the game they said was a failure and thier charging full price for this port? How much is the one from last year cost, what its cheap? I am not saying tomb raider is a bad game. But if any of you support the next gen version I must say that is really sad, I know there is nothing to play but do not buy this game. Its odd the one thing that would be nice on PS4 and xbone is some that the WII U has in full force. I really wish they were backward compatible.

People are shitting on pc hardware prices not being bang for the buck...but the tomb raider collection (10 games including this newer one) was going for like 12 bucks during steam winter sale. and console gamers paying $60 for a definitive edition is just plain wrong. This edition should not cost $60 on next gen.

 

[Interfectum]

What is you point, coming into a console thread to tell everyone you played the game at better settings ?????

How is it relevant, and why do PC players ALWAYS do this on console comparison threads.

Do you think we are impressed ?

Does it add to the discussion ?

Do you think we want to run out and build a gaming rig ?

Or do PC players like to show off their specs (my GPU is bigger) ?

Its afternoon where I am - do you think we all live in USA ?

Why don't you look at the post he was responding to before going off on a whiny rant?