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[Dice]

If outlines are "disabled" how come the characters still have their outlines? Unless there are specific checkmarks on what is outlined and what isn't, I'm pretty sure all the pictures I posted had their characters outlined.

I'm not arguing anything though hahah it was just an observation.

Edit:

Yes they do.

Sakurai said the outlines are "mushy" which, looking at those pics, would seem to suggest there is no outline where a strong contrast is already established. Look at Pit's wings and the bright white parts of his clothing. The outline is not there as opposed to darker parts like his legs and hair. As for the Marth pic, the sword doesn't seem much brighter than Link's but it is massive as it is so close to the camera, so an outline probably isn't needed, especially if it is 3D.

With this in mind, I see some issues with the leaks.

Why does the blue weapon have a blue outline between it and the blue background? Why is her bright skin given an outline when it is already heavily contrasted from the background?

Why is there so much varying thickness in outlines comparing her to Mario, given that their contrast levels are similar?

This doesn't match the more black-looking style we have seen in the outlines, yet does show a possibility that Mario and Palutena were separate assets photoshopped in after being edited to have an outline, and Palutena was shrunk down a bit compared to Mario.

They were definitely displayed on a 3DS screen and photographed, but I'm not sure it was the game playing rather than a photoshop they loaded on to the 3DS.

 

[SmithnCo]

My eyes are bleeding. I think using #s outside Instragam alone is bad, but that just hurt.

Then again, I'm not a social media type of person.

#BloodyEyes #Yolo

 

[Regiruler]

#teamreal
#teamdisappointeditisn'thades
#teamhashtagsarestupidasisthispost

 

[J-Tier]

I believe that it's real.

 

[CitrusStorm]

Hey Neorice have you made a Zelda avatar?

He did. I'm using it right now, but if you're interested you can have it.

 

[Anustart]

#TeamTooBigToBeReal

 

[Shadow Hog]

I think using #s outside Instragam alone is bad, but that just hurt.

Must hurt even more to learn it was actually a Twitter thing first

 

[Platy]

Mario Hat being perfectly round puts me in

#TeamFake

 

[Hyperactivity]

Must hurt even more to learn it was actually a Twitter thing first

Add that in too. I dont have an account (that is decently maintained in twitters case) on either

So has the punishment for losing team been officially decided? Or do we create another vote, with more of the evil symbol. It wasn't always so. It once represented number. Now that nice symbol has been corrupted

 

[Dice]

Mario Hat being perfectly round puts me in

#TeamFake

#ohsnap

Also, why is Mario not looking at her? Character tracking is pretty basic technology these days.

 

[SuperSah]

Why does the blue weapon have a blue outline between it and the blue background? Why is her bright skin given an outline when it is already heavily contrasted from the background?

Why is there so much varying thickness in outlines comparing her to Mario, given that their contrast levels are similar?

This doesn't match the more black-looking style we have seen in the outlines, yet does show a possibility that Mario and Palutena were separate assets photoshopped in after being edited to have an outline, and Palutena was shrunk down a bit compared to Mario.

1) The outlines have a transparency to them and can be thickened, so you're seeing transparency.

2) You can alter each character's outlines.

3) Outlines are applied regardless if the character is super bright and already easy to notice.

 

[ffdgh]

#ohsnap

Also, why is Mario not looking at her? Character tracking is pretty basic technology these days.

That never happened in smash tho. That pic of him "looking" at Rosalina was him fixing his hat animation.

 

[SuperSah]

If you watch the Smash Direct, the angle of Mario shows a nearly smoothed out hat, so it could be that.

Or, they're touching up models?

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

Santa Claus leaked the Palutena pictures. The Unicorns told me so.

 

[BigEvilTurtle]

Did past Smash games have interactive head-tracking for characters?

 

[BGBW]

Also, why is Mario not looking at her? Character tracking is pretty basic technology these days.

Eye tracking or a well timed sceenshot?

Of course this is a Wii U screenshot so even if it is proof of eye tracking it could be one of those elements removed from the 3DS version to save on resources and because the characters will be smaller on the screen. I mean a quick butchers at 3DS screens doesn't really reveal anything in regards to that.

 

[Dice]

1) The outlines have a transparency to them and can be thickened, so you're seeing transparency.

I do image editing myself. I know the difference between a transparent black shadow over a blue background and a transparent blue shadow.

2) You can alter each character's outlines.

This does not explain variance, which I was talking about, not just general relative thickness.

3) Outlines are applied regardless if the character is super bright and already easy to notice.

Please explain the Pit screens.

 

[Poltergust]

Eye tracking or a well timed sceenshot?

Of course this is a Wii U screenshot so even if it is proof of eye tracking it could be one of those elements removed from the 3DS version to save on resources and because the characters will be smaller on the screen. I mean a quick butchers at 3DS screens doesn't really reveal anything in regards to that.

Well-timed screenshot. Luigi looks down when pulling his nose during his idle animation.

 

[KageZero]

Ok sorry to jump in like this but i couldn't find it in thread. Why are you all now talking about paultena from KI?

 

[Akibastman]

Ok, I'm joining the #TeamFake. The only reason I chose is the fact I can't believe Sakurai ninjas failed. I can't accept that.

 

[SuperSah]

People trying to rumble this image is fun.

No one can fashion any reasonable fraudulent excuse here.

Keep it up guys. =p

 

[Incendiary]

All this Palutena discussion has just made me realize I really need to pick up KI:Uprising.

#TeamNeedsToPlayKIUprising

 

[ffdgh]

Ok sorry to jump in like this but i couldn't find it in thread. Why are you all now talking about paultena from KI?

Supposed leaked images that are hard to instantly call fake.

 

[BGBW]

Well-timed screenshot. Luigi looks down when pulling his nose during his idle animation.

That's what I thought.

This picture of fox just has him looking forward into space so it's pretty safe to say the eyes don't hide any secrets.

One thing I was curious about personally was if the 3DS version lacked the expressions of the Wii U version, but this Mario shot shows that the faces are not static.

So yeah, my thoughts on Palutena's expression, or one should say lack of, goes unchanged.

 

[Dice]

Why do her fingers look more slender and well modeled in the pic with Mario?

 

[Berordn]

No one can fashion any reasonable fraudulent excuse here.

Reasonable explanation: someone who pays a lot of attention to the daily images with significant skills took Palutena's Brawl model and touched it up to make the internet go into a tizzy.

"Looks super real" is hardly the best way to determine this kind of thing.

 

[MannyToons]

Just gonna stay here on TeamIdon'treallycare.

 

[BGBW]

No one can fashion any reasonable fraudulent excuse here.

Lots of people have come up with many reasons why this image isn't without fault. If you accept the reasoning is another matter, but you can't claim none of it is reasonable.

 

[Neiteio]

Why do her fingers look more slender and well modeled in the pic with Mario?

They look the same in both pictures to me.

 

[theprodigy]

man, if I were Sakurai I'd do some next level trolling and leak some images and watch people "prove" its fake

 

[Resolution]

One thing I was curious about personally was if the 3DS version lacked the expressions of the Wii U version, but this Mario shot shows that the faces are not static.

He is on a ledge though that can be why.

 

[Neiteio]

man, if I were Sakurai I'd do some next level trolling and leak some images and watch people "prove" its fake

Just watch -- the next pic we get will be the 3DS pics with the Palutena screens, only zoomed out now to show Sakurai holding the 3DS.

 

[Kokonoe]

Haven't doubted myself since the beginning. It's real. It's when keeping it real goes right.

 

[SkullHydra]

Just watch -- the next pic we get will be the 3DS pics with the Palutena screens, only zoomed out now to show Sakurai holding the 3DS.

The fallout would be magnificent!

 

[J@hranimo]

You'll have to try to find it on the archive site. Threads on /v/ disappear fast.

Ah ok. I'm not too familiar with 4chan and /v/ but thought that if it got taken down relatively quickly then it had to be some sort of leak.


Still #TeamFake even with these recent comparisons. The zoomed in pic, the stance, it just all seems unofficial to me. If there is one sure comparison I'll jump ship, but for now nope.

 

[Ricky 7]

Man Palutena sure does look fugly in those "leaked" pics, therefore I'm going with team fake.

 

[Hyperactivity]

Just watch -- the next pic we get will be the 3DS pics with the Palutena screens, only zoomed out now to show Sakurai holding the 3DS.

If a single wrinkle or gray hair is found, we'll know it's fake

 

[Kokonoe]

Man Palutena sure does look fugly in those "leaked" pics, therefore I'm going with team fake.
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/6228/2159341-palutena_anime.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

That model looks better than the Uprising model so.

 

[Axiology]

Reasonable explanation: someone who pays a lot of attention to the daily images with significant skills took Palutena's Brawl model and touched it up to make the internet go into a tizzy.

"Looks super real" is hardly the best way to determine this kind of thing.

But then where did the Mario image come from? Or did they make it themselves too?

I'm not saying it's definitely real, but I think it looking "super real" is an important factor to consider. Without it looking fake, or having elements from images we've seen in the past, the only other way to speculate on this image is to literally wait until Sakurai confirms or denies it himself (which is a lot less fun than talking about it now)

 

[SmithnCo]

Man Palutena sure does look fugly in those "leaked" pics, therefore I'm going with team fake.

I need a side shot of her from Uprising because the leak Palu has quite a nose on her, lol

 

[TheLegendOfCap]

Man Palutena sure does look fugly in those "leaked" pics, therefore I'm going with team fake.

The side one looks a bit odd sure, but THIS?

Best model so far IMO, she looks great.

 

[Berordn]

But then where did the Mario image come from? Or did they make it themselves too?

Actually, the Mario is the main reason why I'm not throwing my hat into any ring. The colors look really off, and the outline's thickness is a bit more inconsistent than what we've seen from anything else. It almost looks like someone took a pose from a Wii U screenshot and altered it to fit in better.

 

[Nickle]

These look totally fake. Every 3DS game looks like it needs massive anti-aliasing (especially Kid Icarus: Uprising, which was the company's last game), but these screenshots look smooth and crisp.

Plus, every rumor that makes a Nintendo game sound good is probably a hoax.

 

[SuperSah]

He is on a ledge though that can be why.

Nope.

 

[TheLegendOfCap]

These look totally fake. Every 3DS game looks like it needs massive anti-aliasing (especially Kid Icarus: Uprising, which was the company's last game), but these screenshots look smooth and crisp.

Plus, every rumor that makes a Nintendo game sound good is probably a hoax.

Here's the thing.

3DS SCREENSHOTS look terrible on a non-native screen. All that anti-aliasing is not so visible on an actual 3DS screen, let alone a PICTURE of a 3DS screen. That can't be used as argument.

Edit: Also Namco is codeveloping this game, not just SORA Ltd. There are huge differences in the graphics. Just look at their hands in official screenshots, versus Uprising models. uprising hands are clunky looking, but the models in SSB4 look great so far.

 

[Ricky 7]

That model looks better than the Uprising model so.

Oh jeez, you're right.T_T I guess those pics might be real.

 

[Dimitri LH]

Just read the pages that I have missed for the past 2 days.....man what a wild ride. Sad I missed out on it.


Let me join in on the fun, I have a strong gut feeling its true.....so sign me up for #teamreal


Sakurai seems to be having fun with his fans I think.

 

[BGBW]

https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.n...1395400_732798856749927_1704304728_n.jpg?dl=1

Nope.

Even better. Good to see this aspect of the game hasn't been compromised on in the 3DS version because I'm sure we can all agree the expressiveness of these games is so much better than that of Brawl.

 

[SuperSah]

These look totally fake. Every 3DS game looks like it needs massive anti-aliasing (especially Kid Icarus: Uprising, which was the company's last game), but these screenshots look smooth and crisp.

Plus, every rumor that makes a Nintendo game sound good is probably a hoax.

The outlines make all of these models look incredibly smooth.

Aliasing is there, too.

 

[SmithnCo]

Oh nose.