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Spencer: Black Tusk E3 '13 teaser was "a concept piece", not a in-dev game
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There is no way MS handed them over this huge franchise and didn't say "put every single guy you've got on this project because it's coming out next year."
I'm sure they've got their new IP in the wings that they'll come back to. Someday. :\
3rdamention
Member
Wow, no kidding. They never alluded to that at all. They always presented it as a game, a game in development. So many people were hyped for this specific game.
Calling it a concept is pretty crazy. They never even really showed any gameplay at all. Wow.
Triggerhappytel
Member
We don't know any of that, aside from comments from them saying they were hoping to make the next Halo. If it was a stealth action game most entries in the genre come nowhere near the ~6 million sales a core Gears instalment can make.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Oh yeah, it's probably on hold after this announcement. I doubt it's cancelled, though, because weren't the recently hiring writers for this project?
That would be great, but I don't buy it.
A new, untested studio simultaneously developing two AAA games? Even with Microsoft's money, that's a really big ask. Working on two AAA games at the same time really requires a studio with several shipped games, strong culture and low turnover. Not saying it's impossible, just unlikely.
I have no love for the Gears franchise, but MS needs big, exclusive games with names people know in order to claw back marketshare. As much as MS seems to be going on about family and The Livingroom etc, they know 'dudebros' made the 360 what it is and they need them buying the XONE. They want the Gears shipped yesterday, so every warm body at that studio will be on it.
Spencer isn't going to make a statement like that, which he knows will generate more ire, unless the game is dead and he just wants to get ahead of it and move on and not have the press ask "So where's the stealth game?" every time they show off the new Gears.
AlanzTalon
Member
I know the pitchforks are perpetually and forever waving for anything MS related nowadays... But can't it just be as simple as the Black Tusk teaser being an early game concept that as they went down the path of building just didn't pan out? This happens all the time, usually it isn't anything to get worked up about.
They couldn't get the concept into a full game, so rather than have this expensive studio toil away at unknown, they give them the keys to a huge franchise in need of a reboot.
But I suppose it is more fun to imagine grand conspiracies to screw us, the gaming public, out of being able to play that spy game they showed 30 seconds of cg from.
They couldn't get the concept into a full game, so rather than have this expensive studio toil away at unknown, they give them the keys to a huge franchise in need of a reboot.
But I suppose it is more fun to imagine grand conspiracies to screw us, the gaming public, out of being able to play that spy game they showed 30 seconds of cg from.
oddone stahpUnannounced Halo project.
I doubt its cancelled, but I also have doubts MS would let them move on to a new IP if the next Gears game sells spectacularly and moves consoles.
Most studios become a franchise factory until they get big enough to split into two teams.
Doubt he gives a fuck, he just wants to sell you some stuff. Lies, grassroots astroturfing, forum shills, its all good.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
When's their game due then? Mid 2015?
intheinbetween
Member
apparently they also looked for a character concept artist last november
AlanzTalon
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Edit double post.
King Beyond the wall
Member
I Feel sorry for black tusk. They were developing their own original IP that looked really promising: a spy/stealth game which looked like a spiritual successor to the original awesome splinter cell and syphon filter games. Now they are just Microsoft's bitch making a gears game every other year along with 343 and Halo. 
not happy.
not happy.3rdamention
Member
I dont see any way it comes out this year. Especially when just a year ago Black Tusk was talking about creating a new IP, and you look at E3 they were working on the mysterious new Black Tusk game. The New Gears game cannot be that far in development, at least no longer than a year. But we will see.
I am so shocked Microsoft revealed this now. This would be a great E3 bombshell, but now, we know they will talk about it at E3, it ruins the big impact it could have had at their conference, they cannot talk about Titanfall this year at E3, unless its an expansion. They obviously cannot talk about that New Black Tusk IP, since they are working on Gears Now. Maybe they have some BIG surprises up their sleeve for this year.
Steverulez
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You quoted someone who said that Microsoft are getting owned in the marketplace (PS4 vs Xbox One sales presumably) so they are mitigating risks.
You said "Exactly", New IP has always been a "non justifiable risk for them" (Microsoft) etc
I've posted saying I believe that statement to be incorrect, they've released new IP with the console (and released: Gears, Mass Effect, Kameo, Alan Wake, Too Human (lol), Crackdown, Viva Piñata, Kinect Sports on 360 as well plus other new IP), and have other new IP coming in the form of announced titles I listed and presumably other unknown titles we don't know about.
Is that not correct?
I agree that Microsoft might be changing their strategy, but at this point I honestly don't think its at the expense of new IP.
I also think its an incredibly smart move to make sure they get out titles that are known performers or fan-favourites. Its also what Sony and Nintendo do, its a smart move and everyone should (and does) do it. They also need to keep making new IP (again so far so good on that front) and I also think they'll bring back older franchises, particularly from Rare.
I don't see the problem with any of that though personally, it makes a lot of sense as a strategy.
plasmawave
Banned
Truly. Still waiting for Last Guardian
That is so 2009.
3rdamention
Member
I dont see any way it comes out this year. Especially when just a year ago Black Tusk was talking about creating a new IP, and you look at E3 they were working on the mysterious new Black Tusk game. The New Gears game cannot be that far in development, at least no longer than a year. But we will see.
I am so shocked Microsoft revealed this now. This would be a great E3 bombshell, but now, we know they will talk about it at E3, it ruins the big impact it could have had at their conference, they cannot talk about Titanfall this year at E3, unless its an expansion. They obviously cannot talk about that New Black Tusk IP, since they are working on Gears Now. Maybe they have some BIG surprises up their sleeve for this year.
Vinterbird
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Black Tusk was working on a new IP for Microsoft, then at some point between E3 2013 and today they were moved to Gears of War.
No one lied to anyone, things just changed.
Triggerhappytel
Member
If they were 'recently' doing anything, then it was almost certainly for this Gears project. At a guess I'd say in the last few months the purchase has been agreed and the ink on the contract dried a number of weeks ago.
The Order definitely isn't in the same situation as those games. There's actual screenshots, a lot of info, and some people in the industry has played the game. RAD has been ready to show gameplay footage for months, but Sony's marketing team won't let them do it yet. SSM is in a similar situation when it comes to revealing their new IP.
Yes, but usually these kind of projects don't get shown at the mainstage E3, especially the biggest E3 of the last years. The only similar situation I remember from the last years is TLG.
If the project was yearly enough to be scrapped like this then Microsoft really jumped the gun showing it.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Congratulations Microsoft you now have your own "The Last Guardian"
So it wasn't a game at all. It was a tech-demo. Nothing more.
They've teased a game that doesn't exist.
Ravensmash
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Seems rather odd to showcase a concept trailer at E3 and not highlight it as such.
dragonbane
Member
Disappointing. Always interested in stealth games.
Don't waste your time with Bundy. He is super anti-MS/Xbox. You can check all his posts.
First Albert Penello with the lies, now Phil Spencer too.
At E3 2013 did Spencer say Black Tusk studio's was working on a concept or a new game? Rhetorical, it was meant to be a new game, they scrapped it?
Gears is done, finished, the story ends were all tied nicely, Judgement was proof enough that people felt the same way.
At E3 2013 did Spencer say Black Tusk studio's was working on a concept or a new game? Rhetorical, it was meant to be a new game, they scrapped it?
Gears is done, finished, the story ends were all tied nicely, Judgement was proof enough that people felt the same way.
Not interested in Gears of War and the Black Tusk tease was one of the few things I was interested in. Microsoft focusing too much on numbers instead of creativity. Can we sell merchandise, make a TV show etc.
What a kick in the nuts. Why don't you announce another Fable at E3 for icing on the over baked cake.
What a kick in the nuts. Why don't you announce another Fable at E3 for icing on the over baked cake.
dragonbane
Member
Disappointing. Always interested in stealth games.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Truly. Still waiting for Last Guardian
You'll be waiting a long time my friend.
To be fair to Phil Spencer, it was Don Mattrick that pushed for the E3 reveal of Black Tusk's project.
http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/1x6o6u/gt-tv-behind-the-scenes-of-xbox-one (01:50 into the video)
http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/1x6o6u/gt-tv-behind-the-scenes-of-xbox-one (01:50 into the video)
BoboBrazil
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If the game they showed at e3 wasn't real, were there other games they showed at e3 that also weren't real?
Vinterbird
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Go back to the first page and read. They were making a game, and was making a game since 2012, now they are making something else.
Back when they showed it, it was what Black Tusk was making. Since then something changed, Microsoft got the rights to Gears and Black Tusk is now working on that. There's no lies, no tricks or anything like that. Just straight up business.
And the games showed at E3 were real. Sunset Overdrive is coming this year, same is Halo. Quantum Break is still an unknown as to releasedate.
New IP from Microsoft? Surely you jest.
Steverulez
Member
That looked like a video to announce the studio, not a game.
Well that sucks. I know there are alot of Gears fans out there who would love to see the continuation of the series for the XBONE however to have a new IP, which could have had potential be shelved is so disappointing. Just like when that Getaway game (?could be wrong on the name) from Sony got canned
I think some of you think that this is some sort of deceitful behavior, when it's actually just the reality of business and keeping on message.
Wow they teased a dude with a gun!!!!!
Such originality, so impressed, wow.
BoboBrazil
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Why did Phil Harrison say it was just a concept then? Sunset(hope it's more Resistance quality and less Fuse) and Quantum Break look interesting. No interest in a Halo not made by the studio that created it. Destiny will be the continuation of Halo.
Thanks, I've added it to the OP.
Jeez, how gutting. That IP will likely never see the light of day unless they rapidly expand.
How is it that MS always saddles good news with bad? They've got real talent.
ChiliManiac
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I think he's trying to not get peoples hopes up about a game anytime soon, the team is supposed to be pretty large at black tusk so they're probably working on multiple projects. I actually respect him for telling us this news. It looked more like a studio tease than anything else since they were introducing the studio at the time.