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Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

Loco4Coco

Member
I have the most common name in the world, but on a day to day basis, I barely meet anyone with it.

But back to smash.

Masterball would be really cool.

And if they wanted to take the concept an either make it really cool or bad, make a Poke/Great/Ultra/Master system, or Heaby, Net, Dusk, Time, Poke, Great, etc., respectively

They should add Masterball, that will create a sense of urgency to try and get cause you know it'll be something good.
 

-Horizon-

Member
They should add Masterball, that will create a sense of urgency to try and get cause you know it'll be something good.
I still think as some of us came up with before:
Have multiple pokeball designs, regular, great, ultra, master etc
Have the rate of a rarer pokemon being inside a better ranked pokeball be at 50% or something.
The other 50% is that its a Magikarp.
High backfire risk, but still high chance of reward.
 
We've got two new females so far, three if Palutena is real. Four if there is a female variation of Villager. That is definitely
not
enough. I want at least two more.
Quick, pile on all the females!

Pauline!
Daisy!
Candy Kong!
Dixie Kong!
Wrinkly Kong!
Tiny Kong!
Kass!
Kalypso!
Marin!
Saria!
Malon!
Impa!
Ruto!
Nabooru!
Aryll!
Tetra
/Toon Zelda
!
Medli!
Ilia!
Midna!
Mother Brain!
Metroid Prime/Dark Samus!
Dyna Blade!
Adeline!
Krystal!
Katt!
Miyu!
Fay!
Female Pokémon Trainer!
Jody Summer!
Paula!
Kumatora!
Lucas's Mom!
Lyn!
More Fire Emblem women! (I... don't play this series.)
Palutena!
Medusa!
Pandora!
Viridi!
Mona!
Kat & Ana!
Ashley!
Brittany!
Jill!
Mia!
Jenna!
Sheba!
Karis!
Sveta!
Himi!
Fiora!
Sharla!
Melia!
Starpy!
Ashley Robbins!
Meryl Silverburgh!
Olga Gurlukovich!
Emma Emmerich!
Mistral!
Amy Rose!
Rouge the Bat!
Cream the Rabbit!
Blaze the Cat!
Princess Elise!
Marine the Raccoon!
Shade!
Roll!
Iris!
Alia!
Layer!
Palette!
Tron Bonne!
Ms. Pac-Man!
 
don't worry about the Fire Emblem characters, if we listed every popular female character from there it'd be longer than your current list
 
i actually looked up that FE Henry character the other day and thought he sounds great

he probably isnt significant enough to even get an AT in Smash but it'd be kind of neat for him to get in the game

I'd like him as an Assist Trophy if only to hear if scream "I'M GONNA KILL YOU!"
 

Dr. Buni

Member
I always thought Metroid Prime/Dark Samus was genderless.

I would also love to have Blaze the Cat in Smash Bros. The only non-classic Sonic friend that doesn't suck imo.
 
Meh, I couldn't care less whether we get more females or not. As long as they are actually deserving and liked enough rather than just thrown in because vaginas. I want characters that I actually like. Tetra (and I guess Toon Zelda) being one of them.
 
Not every Fire Emblem is a waifu emblem.

but when you can count most females who are semi-important to their series on 2 hands per franchise, FE grows that sort of reputation.

Ah, yes, I did forget Viridi. I'll amend that.

(Unless you mean somebody else? I suppose there's Pandora... Truth be told, I only ever got halfway into Uprising, just past the stage where you invade and blow up a fake moon.)

Play to Chapter 18. IMMEDIATELY. I mean get off of neogaf right now and play to Chapter 18 IMMEDIATELY. I don't if you're hungry, or tired, or sleepy, or need to wriye an essay.

But do get to chapter 18 quickly, all jokes aside
 

-Horizon-

Member
I always thought Metroid Prime/Dark Samus was genderless.

I would also love to have Blaze the Cat in Smash Bros. The only non-classic Sonic friend that doesn't suck imo.

Didn't MP only absorb Samus' suit? So yeah, genderless.

I want Snake in so we have an excuse to toss in "It Has To Be This Way".

Ah, yes, I did forget Viridi. I'll amend that.

(Unless you mean somebody else? I suppose there's Pandora... Truth be told, I only ever got halfway into Uprising, just past the stage where you invade and blow up a fake moon.)

Why did you stop? It just gets better with every chapter!
 
Why did you stop? It just gets better with every chapter!
The controls were causing me physical pain, stand or no. I wasn't interested in playing a game that hurt to play.

I did tell myself I'd return to it when I got an XL, but I need to find my stand. It's somewhere in this condo.
 

-Horizon-

Member
The controls were causing me physical pain, stand or no. I wasn't interested in playing a game that hurt to play.

I did tell myself I'd return to it when I got an XL, but I need to find my stand. It's somewhere in this condo.
Yeah, I wouldn't call the control scheme perfect but I never played it with the OG 3DS. But just thinking its around the same size as a ds lite (probably a little bigger) and holding it in that position, I can imagine the hand cramps.

I didn't bother with the stand, just positioned and balanced it on my leg or a pillow.
 
I, personally, as far as girl characters go, would be perfectly happy with an original moveset standalone Tetra.

Not a Tetra/Toon Zelda Zelda/Shiek clone. I wouldn't want her to turn into Toon Zelda at all.

An original, stand alone, Tetra.

:)
 
The controls were causing me physical pain, stand or no. I wasn't interested in playing a game that hurt to play.

I did tell myself I'd return to it when I got an XL, but I need to find my stand. It's somewhere in this condo.

No you don't

Don't play with your right hand disconnected from the 3ds. It should be helping you with the supporting your 3ds. There was this image on how to play without your stand, and its very comfortable for me.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
Toon Zelda/Tetra/Phantom Zelda would be such a great character. The moveset possibilities are endless.
Didn't MP only absorb Samus' suit? So yeah, genderless.
Yep, that is why I think it is genderless. Yet people call it a she because it has more or less the same appearance as Samus.
 
I, personally, as far as girl characters go, would be perfectly happy with an original moveset standalone Tetra.

Not a Tetra/Toon Zelda Zelda/Shiek clone. I wouldn't want her to turn into Toon Zelda at all.

An original, stand alone, Tetra.

:)

I think I would prefer this, actually. Tetra should be treated more as her own character rather than "the girl that's really Zelda". Besides, we really don't need toonified versions of every Zelda character.
 
I think I would prefer this, actually. Tetra should be treated more as her own character rather than "the girl that's really Zelda". Besides, we really don't need toonified versions of every Zelda character.

Heck, I hated Zelda in WW. When I got to Zelda, I was excited thinking "Tetra was amazing, what's Zelda going to be like"

And the she started apologizing. The Tetra I knew would've never done that.
It was a severely disappointing moment for me.
 
No you don't
Stop right there. You do not tell me whether I was having pain or not. I know damn well whether I was in pain a whole lot better than anyone else ever would.

Plus, I can't hold the 3DS and accurately use the stylus with the same hand. That's patently ridiculous. And even then, it wouldn't help all the damned hand cramps in my left hand that turned me off from the game in the first place.
 

Shun

Member
I think I would prefer this, actually. Tetra should be treated more as her own character rather than "the girl that's really Zelda". Besides, we really don't need toonified versions of every Zelda character.

Toon Character Design = Best Zelda series design.

Cat eyes are the shit.

Cat Suit item please. Change Bowser into Meowser. Sakurai's cat as a cameo in Nintendogs Assist Trophy. Bunny ears change into Cat ears. Cats everywhere.
 

Unbounded

Member
Plus, I can't hold the 3DS and accurately use the stylus with the same hand. That's patently ridiculous. And even then, it wouldn't help all the damned hand cramps in my left hand that turned me off from the game in the first place.

You can actually. The trick is to wrap your right pinkie around the bottom right corner of the 3DS. This takes a lot of weight off of your left hand. You can use your remaining fingers on the stylus.

I was having trouble at first until I figured out I had to do this as well. The pinkie-wrap really does work miracles.

EDIT: Here's the image he was talking about. He has his pinkie wrapped around the entire right side, but whatever.

yBufd.jpg
 

EulaCapra

Member
How did the Krystal hate come about and which game? It's not like Star Fox is deep with rich character development besides the fun endings...

Is she hated because the Dinosaur Planet game exists in general? Because that hate should be redirected towards Miyamoto and all parties involved for stripping the N64 Dinosaur Planet game for parts.
 
Stop right there. You do not tell me whether I was having pain or not. I know damn well whether I was in pain a whole lot better than anyone else ever would.

Plus, I can't hold the 3DS and accurately use the stylus with the same hand. That's patently ridiculous. And even then, it wouldn't help all the damned hand cramps in my left hand that turned me off from the game in the first place.

Didn't mean to sound aggressive, and if so, I apologize.

Nor was I actually trying to tell you whether you had hand cramps or not, and it was meant to come off i a joking manner. In any case, my assumption because most people using the stand DO show themselves playing the game in a position that would indeed cramp there hands.

I'm not saying to hold your 3ds, it's more like support the bottom right corner with the bottom corner of your palm.

Left hand hand cramps are much better on the XL, although I do feel this is a game you need to take a chapter or a few at a time.

But seriously, I still highly recommend at least watching a walkthrough of this game

You can actually. The trick is to wrap your right pinkie around the bottom right corner of the 3DS. This takes a lot of weight off of your left hand. You can use your remaining fingers on the stylus.

I was having trouble at first until I figured out I had to do this as well. The pinkie-wrap really does work miracles.

EDIT: Here's the image he was talking about. He has his pinkie wrapped around the entire right side, but whatever.

forget the pinky stuff. If you're keeping the default r button to shoot, there's no reason to not just keep your pinky out of that position and just use the l button

Guess the position cae intuitively after playing the pokemon ranger games.

Which are good but will DESTROY you touch screen. I would just get a seperate touch screen for the circles that will be ethed on it after you play this series
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
How did the Krystal hate come about and which game? It's not like Star Fox is deep with rich character development besides the fun endings...

Is she hated because the Dinosaur Planet game exists in general? Because that hate should be redirected towards Miyamoto and all parties involved for stripping the N64 Dinosaur Planet game for parts.

I'd want to say it came from the games, but I dont think its enough to hate her, I think the majority of that hate came from furry community making her popular for the wrong reasons, and that hate spread down to the games she's in that the fanbase is already divisive on.
 
That looks insanely uncomfortable. Thanks for the advice, both of you, but I'll pass and stick with the stand, whenever I get back to the game.

Also, I'm getting way too irritable. I should sleep.

How did the Krystal hate come about and which game? It's not like Star Fox is deep with rich character development besides the fun endings...

Is she hated because the Dinosaur Planet game exists in general? Because that hate should be redirected towards Miyamoto and all parties involved for stripping the N64 Dinosaur Planet game for parts.
Well, apparently she's an extraordinarily bland character in Star Fox Adventures and does sweet FA there. Dunno about Assault, but I guess she didn't do much there, either. Armada has the most character development, but it's almost entirely contained in non-canon endings where she goes rogue and renames herself "Kursed". Also, because her original design deliberately has her showing a damn lot of skin fur, she's become something of an idol among circles who are into that kind of thing, as well as places like 4chan. This means there's art of her everywhere, increasing the hatred for her among her detractors.

It's something like that, anyway. Personally I don't mind her.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I didnt know there was hate for her until I found the internet, her actual character has nothing to do with it as its not like the other starfox characters are super complex or anything either, just male.
 
So, I'm just catching up on what's been said today and I couldn't help but notice...
Quick, pile on all the females!
... how important wording and context are =P

To actually contribute: I personally don't mind Krystal, she did seem a bit tacked on for love interest's sake in Adventures and Command though. She's overall not a bad character exactly, but her most redeeming quality is her slight British accent in Adventures, sadly -_-
 
How did the Krystal hate come about and which game? It's not like Star Fox is deep with rich character development besides the fun endings...

Is she hated because the Dinosaur Planet game exists in general? Because that hate should be redirected towards Miyamoto and all parties involved for stripping the N64 Dinosaur Planet game for parts.
I guess in a way people probably hate her because she was introduced during the "downfall" of the SF series. Ive heard people pin it on the Furry community and while that is creepy I really dont think that is why or a logical reason why much like when Lucario got anounced for 4 people used the same excuse. Just about every popular Videogame series has been depicted in unsettling sexual/pornographic drawings. I'm not sure why Krystal would get the whole blame for that. Personally speaking I wanted her in Brawl because I thought she'd be a fun unique character and a female. However I wouldnt want her in 4 as SF has enough reps and SF has fallen off the map.
 
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