Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Just watched it; extremely interesting presentation. Hope they get some more interest after the Wii U got a few more sales over the holidays.
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30c3: Console Hacking 2013 Wii U
- Thread starter la_briola
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FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
It saved it.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Only reason for that was that its online sucked. If the Wiiu SMash ends up with awesome online, then it being hacked will only ruin that with cheating.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Not even homebrew would allow one to play GC discs on the Wii U, correct? Since it lacks the fancy mini-disc loader?
Gamepad/off-TV play for Wii mode would still be cool though :/
Gamepad/off-TV play for Wii mode would still be cool though :/
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Tell me about it. I've been waiting for the first console manufacturer to realize that the original PC model where you had a 'dedicated' machine (early PCs were pretty much lotus123 and WordStar (subsequently WordPerfect) boxes) with open development environment could be really something. Technology was a problem before - older consoles did not have the hw and sw infrastructure for a robust isolation. Now it seems we've reached the point where this is not (much of) an issue, yet no dice. Instead, nintendo would rather endure sw droughts..
Yeah, i can only imagine the possibilities for apps using both the gamepad and tv. I'm sure developers would release great stuff on the console, but at least Nintendo is open to indies and has improved a lot on that area.
Wow, this was kind of unexpected as marcan said a while ago on the failoverflow-page that there is close to interest from him to enable homebrew on WiiU because
- it will be used for piracy
- consoles getting closer to pc's.
Still interesting and more detailed than the page and his tweets, I think.
- it will be used for piracy
- consoles getting closer to pc's.
Still interesting and more detailed than the page and his tweets, I think.
Console makers are in the business of selling $60 games. Why would they want to enable an app-store style race to the bottom for software prices? They're better off keeping a tight rein on control of the platform, at least while they can. Apple makes their money selling hardware. It's an entirely different business plan.
I think OtherOS is the last we'll see of officially sanctioned homebrew for a while, particularly since the main use of it was as a platform to attack the hypervisor.
Hm i would think homebrewer are pc guys anyway and have a lot of knoweledge about Pcs and that pc games are cheaper.
But i think they also like to tinker or so
Ok thats sounds pretty cool
KnockOneOff
Banned
Not joking you i work in a school with kids that have autisum, one of the kids there is like this guy, just knows the insides and outs of CPU hacking and tweaking etc
He just sits there C++ writing and writing bat files etc and like how the hell do you learn that!!!
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Yeah, I don't think you LEARN Autism.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Actually, you can play GC games on the Wii U right now, by using a homebrew application called Devolution that runs in Wii mode. It reads iso's off the SD card rather than using the actual discs themselves, but hey, it works. It can force 480p too.
delroth up in a moment, talking about the pad and getting that to work with PC. http://streaming.media.ccc.de/ saal G.
The talk is archived here in
HQ: http://koeln.ftp.media.ccc.de/congr...rse_engineering_the_Wii_U_Gamepad_h264-hq.mp4
and in
LQ: http://koeln.ftp.media.ccc.de/congr..._engineering_the_Wii_U_Gamepad_h264-iprod.mp4
ambientmystic
Member
I just get a 404 not found error if I head to the links in question.
try this, its the webm version. no idea why they removed it.These were up but seem to have gone down as I was watching
http://koeln.ftp.media.ccc.de/congr...verse_engineering_the_Wii_U_Gamepad_webm.webm
ambientmystic
Member
Thanks. This is a great presentation, apparently the GamePad is a heck of a lot more complex than people give it credit for, the hackers really go indepth about it's internals and how they broke it WiFi communications apart.
The Video/Audio protocols aren't just the bog standard Miracast stuff either.
It's apparently so piss easy to get a Wii U or 3DS developer license and the terms aren't much different from Apple's that I'd say it's fair to say that Nintendo actually is embracing the App Store model already, and has been for quite some time. And while the barrier of entry is a bit higher, it's not like $2000 should be a big deal to anybody even remotely serious about developing and selling games.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
That's the thing, though - you have to let developers experiment freely on your platform. If something comes out of that then let them on the eShop, filter them out, heck even make them suffer a lot check. $2000 for me just to tinker with an idea of mine is rather barring, though (and I've spent a small fortune on all kinds of tinker boxes). That $250 unit I've already bought for family entertainment purposes could serve me just as well, if only nintnedo was willing..
I guess that depends on your definition of a lot? The vast majority of their profits come from hardware. iTunes is said to be slightly better than break even. I don't believe apple makes much from micro transactions, though obviously there are some app developers who do.
Hesemonni
Banned
Can't start a new thread and because Fail0verflow already did it so I guess it's kinda relevant to post here: Wii U bootrom has been dumped. It's basically one of the big obstacles to achieve a full hack. It's also something Nintendo can't patch via firmware updates. They can change the bootrom in coming revisions, but Wii U's until the change are unpatchable. Then again seeing what happened with PS3 and having keys and everything meaning jack shit I wouldn't put too much weight on it.
Anyway, "scene" too a big step forward.
Source: Wiiuhax
EDIT: A thread for aforementioned thing.
Anyway, "scene" too a big step forward.
Source: Wiiuhax
EDIT: A thread for aforementioned thing.