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34,000 pieces of Wii U software were sold in the UK in January (incl. NintyLand)
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How do you get away with what you post?
Baconsammy
Banned
When you say "everywhere" do you mean Europe? Because it's been trending down in NPDs and also every week in Japan.
Zerodoppler
Member
Does that include EAD Tokyo, or is it just the Kyoto building?
I was just going off this latest data
http://technologyhobbit.blogspot.com/2013/02/contrary-to-popular-belief-wii-u-is-not.html
not much to go on, but at least an indication of trending upward marginally.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Your definitions are absolutely mental.
Pokemon is a Nintendo IP.
Metroid Prime is a Nintendo IP.
Super Smash Bros is a Nintendo IP.
Donkey Kong Country is a Nintendo IP.
What MrNyarlathotep is asserting that Nintendo's IP do game from first, second, and third party developers. You're only looking at first party development teams despite a large portion of Nintendo's IPs being from non-first party studios. Pokemon and Kirby, to name two.
It looks like you're really looking for a niche amount of products Nintendo actually puts out, by implying only the internal first party stuff counts, which is why you're being called out on it. Pokemon is Nintendo's second best selling franchise, and that's not really done by any first party team in a frequent basis. That doesn't change the fact it is Nintendo's IP and people hold the developer of that series to be as much of 'Nintendo' as EAD Tokyo or Monolithsoft. You're coming off as supremely picky in what counts to you.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
I got two desktops (one with a 700w PSU), a laptop, several big LCD TVs, and at one point had three 360s plugged in and running fairly often concurrently.
Energy bill hovers around $150, give or take the weather.
Average gamer games 2 hours a day. 300 watts 2 hours a day across a week is maybe an extra $50 on your energy bill for the entire year.
Vire
Member
None of which are new!
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
Then why do you comment in Nintendo threads? That's a big and varied list and if the majority of if is garbage to you wouldn't it make sense to spend your free time focusing on things that have value to you?
Baconsammy
Banned
Your first mistake was going to something called Technology Hobbit for sales data. Wii U sales are tending downward, and nothing he listed on his page actually shows the reverse to be true. Pay attention to actual numbers from the weekly Pal and MC lists, as well as next week's NPDs. You don't need a hobbit to tell you what's going on. It's all here.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Mine is significantly more than that in £s every quarter.
Or Nintendo IPs! apparently.
Vire
Member
If you want to limit your definition to "first and second party" Nintendo products, by all means go for it. That hardly changes anything.
Again here is the original quote for posterity.
Meaning that Nintendo themselves had a hand in the game's creation.
that seems to be happening, so hopefully we will see you again soon
I believe he has stepped down as a general overseer of many projects and has gotten back into a more directors position.
though I wouldn't expect the game to be a huge core game, it could even just be an eshop game, but we will see.
grimshawish
Banned
******** are used for Europe and US in that there website.
Only good info is where we'd already expect - Japan.
Lets not shit things up. The site is clear where that data is from.
Only good info is where we'd already expect - Japan.
Lets not shit things up. The site is clear where that data is from.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Every figure on that list which had increased sales for the most recent week was denoted with an asterisk to indicate that it's from an unreliable source. The only actual number for the week came from Japan, which had another week of decreased sales. I don't know if I'd recommend continuing to consult that site.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Chartz data.
Vire
Member
I don't care if it's an e-shop game, I'd love to see what Shiggy is cooking.
If what he said he's working on ever amounts to anything, It definitely would be a valuable asset in Nintendo's arsenal.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Well it removes your claim that most of that list "aren't nintendo IPs" for starters.
PROTIP:
When you need to apply special filters to discount data sets that don't support your hypothesis, your hypothesis is automatically wrong.
Zerodoppler
Member
You should know that they have EAD producers and designers working on pretty much everything they put out.
Vire
Member
Which is exactly what you are doing! :lol
Well you see, Nintendo has made a lot of new I.P.s! Like this third party game the P-100!
Compile a list of just first and second party games Nintendo has put out, and you will see there is very scant new franchises in the past 10 years.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Shibata?
not sure what the MC list is. and looking at the last week for each region, US, and Europe are up, Japan is slightly down, and Other is incomplete. Not sure what indicates HW is going down? Do you have better data for this period?
Steve Youngblood
Member
They're up only if you discount that the sources of that information are unreliable.
Vire
Member
There are downsides though. Limited competition in the marketplace equals complacency between monopolies.
It isn't necessarily good for the consumer.
At that point they could potentially build a system that leapfrogs the upcoming gen and only eat a small loss at launch, provided they don't waste money on another expensive gimmick.
Basically what the Wii's successor should have been in the first place.
I'd say it's idiotic to design a video game console around a feature that rates of so little importance to people that buy video game consoles that you don't even advertise low power draw as a feature.
Turn off the lights in the rooms you're not in. There, you just saved the Earth enough to play a better Wii U. Feel better?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I've never said P-100 is "a Nintendo game". I've said Pokemon is.
Why don't you go through that huge list posted above and remove all third party games from it? There's what, 3 or 4 in there?
To reiterate my point;
YOU not finding a feature worthwhile does not mean a feature isn't worthwhile.
There ARE going to be increasing legislative efforts as to powerdraw on home electronics. You don't need to be Gyro Gearloose to see that one coming
would be good for me. id get to play next gen mario galaxy on a better controller & friend notifications and jumping straight into online whatever-multiplayer-games-nintendo-does.
i literally only like nintendo consoles for nintendo games. if they were on 360 then i wouldnt have to buy another console and dick around with more cables and shit
Baconsammy
Banned
Your trusted source is using a banned site. You need new sources. MC is media create, btw. How in the heck can he track weekly US Wii U sales when no one else can? That's another sign that the site you're going to is full of shite.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Are you serious? When people say new IP's they mean new core IP's made by nintendo's first party. This list just justifies how pathetic their new IP list is. I mean this is the company that created so many new amazing IPs, from Mario,Zelda, Metroid, F-zero,Animal Crossing etc. and yet in the past TEN YEARS the only worthwhile new IP franchise that one can add to the likes I previously mentioned is Pikmin and Xenoblade.
Anyone with common sense can see that this list is filled with shovelware to make it seem long and substantial.
I mean do you think we are stupid? Do you honestly consider this to be a new nintendo IP of which the core gamers and fans have wanted? Do you honestly think that anyone will take this list seriously when you have such games like this:
Nintendo rely to heavily on their franchises and thats not to say they should abandon them, because to be honest they are iconic and in some cases bloddy fantastic. Is it so hard to keep your usual franchises but also try and make some new ones?
Are you serious? When people say new IP's they mean new core IP's made by nintendo's first party. This list just justifies how pathetic their new IP list is. I mean this is the company that created so many new amazing IPs, from Mario,Zelda, Metroid, F-zero,Animal Crossing etc. and yet in the past TEN YEARS the only worthwhile new IP franchise that one can add to the likes I previously mentioned is Pikmin and Xenoblade.
Anyone with common sense can see that this list is filled with shovelware to make it seem long and substantial.
I mean do you think we are stupid? Do you honestly consider this to be a new nintendo IP of which the core gamers and fans have wanted? Do you honestly think that anyone will take this list seriously when you have such games like this:
Nintendo rely to heavily on their franchises and thats not to say they should abandon them, because to be honest they are iconic and in some cases bloddy fantastic. Is it so hard to keep your usual franchises but also try and make some new ones?
just read the first line in the quote again, and then read the rest of the thread.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Markets aside, that does not defeat the point that a device that runs at approximately 150 watts (like the 360 does) will not significant increase your power bill.
Zerodoppler
Member
How about you tell people what actually counts as a Nintendo game, because Xenoblade was definitely not made in Kyoto. Give us a clear definition so we can end this discussion.
Steve Youngblood
Member
I tend to be fairly critical of Nintendo, but I also tend to disagree with folks that think Nintendo suffers from lack of innovation in new IPs. These are turbulent times. With the cost of games development, it's hardly a surprise that companies would rather stick with proven franchises than gamble on something brand new. And furthermore, it's not as if Nintendo lacks diversity in their library in terms of what they can offer. Maybe some series seem a little stale in some fans' eyes, but you could just as easily suggest that they make a game in one of their neglected franchises. Though I wouldn't be opposed to it, I don't think Nintendo's problem is taht EAD needs to make an exciting, fresh new non-Mario/Zelda title.
I never said he was a trusted source, just a user on another board. I believe he has been pretty accurate on previous updates. and he designate that the the data is incomplete or unreliable at this time. So yeah we will have to wait for more accurate data.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Oh, okay, its reinvent the meaning of words day on GAF.
You guys are awesome posters with an excellent grasp of critical thinking skills then.
EDIT:
The 360S and PS3 Slim both use more than twice the power the WiiU does under load.. The launch versions are even more than that.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Personally it was Panorama View that made me guffaw out loud. Image Viewers are now new intellectual property gamers should be excited about.
Its early days yet, but I hope the "its eco-friendly!" argument as to why the WiiU hardware is so lacking doesnt crop up too often with how absolutely ridiculous it is. Clearly Nintendo engineers got a little too obsessed with one angle to the cost of way too much. A bigger box, beefier specs would have at least improved obviously advertiseable game graphics and perhaps made the darn thing a little easier to just plop and drop ports onto.
Its early days yet, but I hope the "its eco-friendly!" argument as to why the WiiU hardware is so lacking doesnt crop up too often with how absolutely ridiculous it is. Clearly Nintendo engineers got a little too obsessed with one angle to the cost of way too much. A bigger box, beefier specs would have at least improved obviously advertiseable game graphics and perhaps made the darn thing a little easier to just plop and drop ports onto.
Are the mods asleep? This isn't even thinly veiled.
grimshawish
Banned
This is probably the wrong thread; but I'll vent. I wish some of the top sales gaffers would band together and form a site for game charts and sales. Cause its fucking annoying looking for info and getting that shithole of a site floating to the top of google every single time.
Visualante2
Member
And putting demos in your release list to puff it up.
What's the problem? He doesn't like the same games you do?
I couldn't give two shits about most of that list either. Luigi's Mansion was cool though.
Absolutely,. And Luigis Mansion is definitely not among the games i was talking about.
What's wrong with that? I was going to say something similar.
Besides as it's been pointed out just about everything in that list is missing the point. People want big Mario/Zelda-level new IPs from Nintendo.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Yeah, that post maybe could have used a more diplomatic touch, but nothing about it leaped out at me as something outrageous.
A simple "those don't interest me" would've sufficed. What he said was tactless and unnecessary.
Vire
Member
Here is an edited list of actual games Nintendo has made through first and second party in the past 10 years.
Phew, sorry I'm exhausted thinking about all those amazing games. *rolls eyes*
Let's be real with each other, this is pretty poor.
Xenoblade, Pushmo are probably the two best things on the list.
Phew, sorry I'm exhausted thinking about all those amazing games. *rolls eyes*
Let's be real with each other, this is pretty poor.
Xenoblade, Pushmo are probably the two best things on the list.
Visualante2
Member
Yeah what if one of the creators of Polarium was reading your horrid comments. They might kill themselves.