Fair enough with GFWL but people claiming yay for game preservation when just cause came out 2 months ago on steam makes me chuckle
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3DM claim to have cracked Denuvo
- Thread starter StalkerUKCG
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It doesn't matter when it is cracked, so long as it is in fact cracked. It would be a wonderful world when Publishers would remove their solutions from older games, but they don't.
For the grand total of two weeks.
adamantypants
Member
It's a double edged sword. On the one hand, it's bad news for piracy. On the other hand, there will be no other time than right in the release window when these people will be hard at work trying to crack the DRM. In 10 years the enthusiasm won't be there to make these games playable again.
Of course the whole games preservation thing IMO is sort of silly. I fully endorse preserving games; it's just that publishers will be more than willing to re-sell you these games in the future. How many remakes of Resident Evil are we on now?
Sure some people have ulterior motives. Doesn't really change the core argument though.
Well for me at least it was my favorite game of 2015 as voted here on Gaf. So I don't think it makes much sense to label people like me as disingenuous for worrying about being able to play it again years down the line.
deadeyekiwi
Member
does this mean we can soon get better mods for just cause 3 soon. Modders have said that denuvo has made it impossible to do there thing.
That really only applies to hit games. Let's be totally on the level and admit that likely 90%+ of games never get modernized after launch. And even then I don't think consumers should have to rebuy the same games assuming they are willing to forgo whatever enhancements a remaster might bring.
They have had solutions before but they involved emulation and tricked Denuvo into thinking it was authenticated. They haven't had a way to turn it off before and this doesn't seem like it to me either. So file modification would still be difficult.
Cool. Just don't break your promise, birdsister. I want to know the impact of piracy on commercial sales.
a wat doing a wat?
a wat doing a wat?
As expected.
Seriously, the moment a dev says that they made an uncrackable game to the press, I just hear it as a callout to pirates like ''TRY ME, MOFO!''
Of course they'll try everything they can to crack shit up, and as always, succeeds in doing it.
I'm interested to see the day where we'll see a truly uncrackable game though.
Seriously, the moment a dev says that they made an uncrackable game to the press, I just hear it as a callout to pirates like ''TRY ME, MOFO!''
Of course they'll try everything they can to crack shit up, and as always, succeeds in doing it.
I'm interested to see the day where we'll see a truly uncrackable game though.
well after all the wierd errors i had trying to run RottR in offline mode I will never buy Denuvo game again or will buy and play cracked like i do with GWL, Starforce and TAges release nowadays (all 3 unplayable legally on Win10)
Meanwhile at Microsoft: "They cracked Denuvo? Pc version of Quantum Break delayed to December 2016! fix that now!!
Really, i guess Denuvo is one of the main reason Microsoft decided to release QB on PC this early too, cause they know that it can't be cracked for months at least, and they really care about the first months sales of a game, if this news is true i can really see them delaying the PC port with a motivation like "more time was needed to polish the game and ensure be best quality for the PC port"
Really, i guess Denuvo is one of the main reason Microsoft decided to release QB on PC this early too, cause they know that it can't be cracked for months at least, and they really care about the first months sales of a game, if this news is true i can really see them delaying the PC port with a motivation like "more time was needed to polish the game and ensure be best quality for the PC port"
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
There are an awful lot of publishers that no longer exist, and licensing agreements that basically eliminate the possibility of seeing games re-released. And why should I have to rebuy the games down the road? I bought it. That should be enough.
justsomeguy
Member
"a solution".
I have a solution: Pay for your content!
I have a solution: Pay for your content!
Whalermouse
Neo Member
I'm not sure if a game being cracked a while after release will do much damage to the bottom lines of video game companies. Aren't the vast majority of a game's profits from the first month after release?
Specifically on PC - with things like Steam sales - games tend to have much longer tails. Every time someone new comes to PC, and sees your game listed at $7.50, you're likely to get a sale. For years and years to come.
PC is less front loaded than consoles. But yes the main benefit publishers see in DRM is in avoiding cracked versions early on when the game is selling at full price.
This is especially true in the PC space where so many games are self published these days. If the company goes belly up and nobody picks up their IPs then they wither away.
My understanding is it has only been emulated/tricked not actually cracked up to now. So we really can't say for sure. Though it kind of goes without saying that anything added to a game will have some impact on performance. The real question is whether it's a minute .5% drain on the CPU or a 10% one.
Whalermouse
Neo Member
That true, I forgot about that. But of the games with the longest tails on Steam, how many can't be pirated? Low prices are effective at combating piracy in and of themselves.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
wow, did they really pull the okeydoke on denuvo?
"we're not going to crack a single player game this year"
"actually we're just kidding LOL"
"we're not going to crack a single player game this year"
"actually we're just kidding LOL"
Yep, you're totally right. I don't think piracy will have a huge impact on sales because of the low cost of entry and convenience Steam offers. I don't know how true this is for other countries with higher piracy rates though.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Bird Sister tho.
Has anyone compared the performance of these cracked games versus the intact DRM'd version?
Has anyone compared the performance of these cracked games versus the intact DRM'd version?
crazyrabbits
Banned
This day has got me legit shook.
This is why you never tempt fate if you're a software executive.
Wowfunhappy
Member
You forgot the bit where even before that, they were talking about how in two years Denuvo would be perfect and there would be "no free games for anyone anymore" (oh no, the horror!)
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
That argument is what is silly, and not just sort of.
What if a publisher goes under? Or simply decides there's no "business case" for reselling some particular game?
The weirdest part is denuvo being VMProtect.
It didn't even look like a real DRM.
http://vmpsoft.com/
So it the end the guys behind the ToS port weren't that wrong to include this.
It didn't even look like a real DRM.
http://vmpsoft.com/
So it the end the guys behind the ToS port weren't that wrong to include this.
It would be wonderful if that was a solution to all the issues I have with game DRM, because I do pay for all of my games.
However, sadly paying for them doesn't make the DRM go away.
spazchicken
Member
You don't think EA and SE will find ways to continue to sell these games to you for the next years and beyond?
Game preservation isn't just about the most popular games that come out.
RipperGrim
Member
Haha! But what about wanting to monitor sales affected by piracy?
enjoy beta testing it for us and having no mods? what a dumb comment, as if piracy influences this in this time and age. Rockstar is just plain greedy with gta and its not because of piracy they dont release on PC, cause it will sell over 15 million copies on console the first week. Money is not the issue, thus piracy argument is invalid.