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Absolutely STUNNING images of Dubai's Skyline (and more).
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Nobody is saying it does. Hence my comparison to a gorgeous woman. I was in Dublin in March, the place was overflowing with soul and character.
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NinjaFridge
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Which developed over many years.
So some arbitrary objects and some wear and tear is what gives something "soul"? Hrm.
Like I said, seems like a cop-out.
One thing about Dubai is they're quite aware of the bad press and make strides to correct it. Most of you are going off of the negative Telegraph article from a few years back. Not saying problems don't exist, but many of them have been solved or improved. You won't really know until you visit yourself, but I meet people all the time who've been and loved it, many who are moving over there to live permanently.
It's actually not too expensive to live over there if you get a decent job (there's many for English speaking educated foreigners out there, high paid and tax free), provided you don't have little one's you need to put through education (international esque education can be very expensive). Rent is very high if your company doesn't comp it or you insist on staying in the more affluent or luxurious areas, but again, relative to the work and pay out there for specialist jobs. You could theoretically live out there for a few years and earn some good money (tax free) and just leave after a year or two.
It's actually not too expensive to live over there if you get a decent job (there's many for English speaking educated foreigners out there, high paid and tax free), provided you don't have little one's you need to put through education (international esque education can be very expensive). Rent is very high if your company doesn't comp it or you insist on staying in the more affluent or luxurious areas, but again, relative to the work and pay out there for specialist jobs. You could theoretically live out there for a few years and earn some good money (tax free) and just leave after a year or two.
Necromanti
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Sorry, but that doesn't justify employing the workers under false pretenses. They are usually recruited in their home countries and told that they will be making a lot more money than they will be so that they can better support their family, and then when they arrive, they realize that they've been had. Of course, at that point, their employer has (illegally) taken their passports away from them so they can't merely just leave (if they could even afford to at that point).
Becoming a permanent resident is
Thug Waffle
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^ This is a fine suggestion.
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NinjaFridge
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I was talking about the Indian workers.
ElectricBlue187
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No. Sitting in a pub that has been there for 150 years eating the same food and drinking the same drink that has been served for 150 years. Some people back in the corner playing traditional Irish music. Enjoying the culture. Talking to a guy whose family has been in the same trade for centuries.
I have nothing against Dubai. It just compares to Vegas to me.
There were amazing Bed & Breakfasts in Dublin. I doubt there is a single one in Dubai. The culture there is consumerism and lavish.
Permanently A
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Do they at least have pipes now? Last I heard all the sewage was moved via trucks.
Well, I should have really said 'long term basis'. I realise getting citizenship is now a very difficult chore.
Wiki | Sanitation in Dubai
yodathesoda
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Dubai's economy is not as important in many ways as Abu Dhabi. AD is the city that keeps Dubai afloat.
Depends on the package you get. There are a lot of American companies with branches there and they pay higher end American salaries + other benefits. Generally you should get 30 to 50% increase and then not pay taxes. In my sisters case her company pays for the kids schools, plane tickets home for the family twice a year I think, and some other random things. Also it's more laid back there from what she tells me. My dad used to work in Saudi when I was a kid. They paid for rent, car, tickets home, and education. So basically everything. If you can get a good deal, it can be pretty awesome.
Dr.Guru of Peru
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This is how Dubai was in 1990. Hard to believe everything was built in mere 20 years.
Eh, thats just the area with the new skyscrapers (the Sheikh Zayed road). I lived in Dubai in 1990, and there was far more to it than that. It certainly wasn't as grand as it is now, but it was a fairly well-developed city of around ~500,000.
SquiddyCracker
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The "Dubai Industrial City" sounds like a good way of keeping a working class separate from the upper class.
So many growing nations are turning into capitalist nightmares.
So many growing nations are turning into capitalist nightmares.
Necromanti
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Companies are a lot more reluctant to offer good package deals nowadays, though, so forsaking one's pension (in many cases) for a "tax-free salary" may not always be the best option.
There's something similar popping up next to the port where my family lives. Not like you'd need any of that to not be reminded of the explicit divisions in society. Dubai is a decent representation of the end-game of unregulated capitalism, at least. And to think that it's the closest thing I have to a place I can call "home".
Yep. You can't just build monuments and hope glory would follow it. Or maybe they're proving that you can...
I think they just ripped off Hunger Games! Capitol commands the peasants in production zones.
PS3GamerKyle
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dat oil money
MyAbsolution
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Needs more Green imo.
But very clean and pretty!
But very clean and pretty!
Grover Cleveland
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Cloud City yall
Phonomezer
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Doesn't oil and gas account for under 10% of Dubai's GDP?
SneakyStephan
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Gorgeous ,getting tired of dickwaving americans shitting up these threads from page one every time.
We get it, you don't like arabs, try to fix your own tent cities first.
Are there any wallpaper res versions of theseJ?
We get it, you don't like arabs, try to fix your own tent cities first.
Are there any wallpaper res versions of theseJ?
you can't become a tourist hotspot with retarded islamic laws
being jailed for kissing in public, and tons of crap similar to this when you read the stories everywhere is surely gonna attract tons of tourists lol....
Dubai currently has over 10m tourists a year, and it's rising every year by solid margins. Ironically that's near enough exactly the same as Egypt, with all it's Pyramids and ancient history.
thing is many westerners are ignorant about the crazy laws there
many of the jailed victims always say something lik "i didn't know you couldn't do that.....heeeeelp"
Yeah but its the tallest
Until kingdom tower gets built in (1000 something m) in Jeddah
i used to live in jeddah. loved it, and i miss it.
bigboss370
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looks so beautiful O_O
like a futuristic city almost.
like a futuristic city almost.
Maninthemirror
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Deserted....
MikeHaggar
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Deserted....
yeah, i've been to dubai several times. most recently back in february of this year. the dubai mall was packed every time we went there. all of the people who lived there that i was around said that things were really on the upswing at the time (and i would imagine still are).
dubai is an interesting place. i can't say i loved it, but i did enjoy my time there. i can't agree with the people saying it should be burnt to the ground. america was built on exploitation too. is it fair for americans to say "well, we're above that now" after reaping the rewards of it?
anyway, i'd recommend anyone that has the chance to go should do it. i always felt very comfortable there as a blond-haired, blue-eyed american. at no time did i feel like i had any less rights or freedom there than here in the states and there's really a lot of fun things to do and see there.
as an aside, if anyone does make it there, i would recommend going to karam beirut to eat. fantastic hommos and tabouleh!
could you expand on this? and i would prefer something that isn't one of the 70 shopping malls there.
Lamel
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Jesus fucking christ almighty that is incredible looking.
Lmao.
Also to all the people saying it doesn't have anything iconic or soulful yet...keep in mind that it has only been in this current state for less than 5 years. It takes decades and even centuries to build character. Of course it will take time. It's brand new.
Lmao.
Also to all the people saying it doesn't have anything iconic or soulful yet...keep in mind that it has only been in this current state for less than 5 years. It takes decades and even centuries to build character. Of course it will take time. It's brand new.
RustyNails
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Such an ethnocentric post. Do you believe Dubai and the emirati region in general didn't exist prior to modernization? Or Dubai culture, cuisine, music and tradition?
Riposte
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Is that a layer of clouds or looking down on foggy weather?
I get a feeling a lot of people see the entirety of Dubai through the lens of negative articles (which as far as I can recall the only kind of articles you'll see on NeoGAF) and don't even realize that. I don't think it is falling apart at the seams nor a rapist-paradise. It is just a more corrupt version of wealthy cities we have elsewhere.
I get a feeling a lot of people see the entirety of Dubai through the lens of negative articles (which as far as I can recall the only kind of articles you'll see on NeoGAF) and don't even realize that. I don't think it is falling apart at the seams nor a rapist-paradise. It is just a more corrupt version of wealthy cities we have elsewhere.
MikeHaggar
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yeah, nib95 pretty much covered it. i can be a little more specific though. you can go to burr dubai (the old part of the city) and visit the open air markets and take rides on old school style boats if you want to get a sense of dubai's history. taking the tour to the top of the burj khalifa is certainly worth it. you're so high on the observation decks that the curvature of the horizon will blow your mind. the fountain show at the burj khalifa is also quite impressive.
you can go skydiving in the marina district or spend the day at the water park on the palm island. an hour and a half drive to abu dhabi will get you to ferrari world where you can ride the world's fastest roller coaster. it's built by intamin and is an excellent ride.
there's often concerts there. i saw kanye west back in february (or possibly end of january--not sure) and it was a great concert. very cool venue and i was pleasantly surprised that they were serving heineken on draft for the entire show.
i'd also recommend watching the sunset while having a drink at club 360. its a very cool experience.
i'm not going to bother rifling off all of the awesome night clubs to visit and fantastic places to eat.
thanks, the desert encampment and touring burr dubai sound nice, everything else seems rather derivative and uninteresting though. i mean i'd go to dubai to escape kanye, not see him.
SirIgbyCeaser
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my brother lives and works in dubai. He's been there 2 years. Is earning very well, has lots of attractive female co-workers.
His life took a big improvement since he did.
Downsides is alcohol is expensive and only in international hotels. There's some cultural things you just have to get used too. As well as understand of the local law.
But you can live entirely in a bubble there, never needing to learn the local language. Go to the hotel and pool from inside your own apartment. Grab drinks at the hotel/bar at the bottom of the apartment.
If you work there, chances are you're earning enough to also live in complete luxury. Taxi to work and home everyday is part of my brothers daily routine. As well as taxi's to anywhere he's going with his friends.
His life took a big improvement since he did.
Downsides is alcohol is expensive and only in international hotels. There's some cultural things you just have to get used too. As well as understand of the local law.
But you can live entirely in a bubble there, never needing to learn the local language. Go to the hotel and pool from inside your own apartment. Grab drinks at the hotel/bar at the bottom of the apartment.
If you work there, chances are you're earning enough to also live in complete luxury. Taxi to work and home everyday is part of my brothers daily routine. As well as taxi's to anywhere he's going with his friends.
I really enjoyed it though. One I went on took us to this little camp in the middle of the desert, all tented up, carpeted, pillows, amazing all you can eat char grill buffet, unlimited shisha, little stalls, fire places, tents, belly dancing etc. Such an awesome and relaxing atmosphere. Watching the sunset and relaxing to the entertainment. Food was great as well, just a meat feast full of grilled lamb, chicken, peppers, rice etc.
Including the desert safari, camp stop off and desert drive back, the whole thing lasted several hours (most of the day) and only cost us like £50 a head (including the food, shisha etc) which I thought was a bargain.
SiteSeer
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don't mind the haters. while the third world develops and sometimes exceeds the first world in infrastructure and development we're gonna see a lot of jealous negativity.
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