wait is it really a time sensitive thing? so 5$ every year?
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Accounts that have spent less than $5 on Steam now have limited access
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wait is it really a time sensitive thing? so 5$ every year?
flatearthpandas
Member
No, and neither do you have to leave your books at at the bookstore's corporate office. They just have to remain in the storefront, as Steam games do.
Just think there are cleaner bookstore analogies to be made and communicate a sense of strange entitlement centered around tertiary services. Let's not bicker.
Means phishing accounts will become evangelicals of Bad Rats.
HELLO FRIEND, HAVE YOU HEARD THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT BAD RATS?
*opens trade offer to give you Bad Rats for Bill's Hat*
loaf of bread
Member
I think I've only bought System Shock 2 and The Witcher on steam for a total of like 3 bucks. Oh well.
Again, that's a different limitation AFAIK, and it only affects your Steam Market capabilities.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I picture these people complaining about the five bucks as the guys that sit on the floor in bookstores reading manga.
Let's be fair here. I think we can agree that $5 is pretty much nothing, but you don't know if X poster is from a poor country where access to credit cards and so on are harder to obtain or use.
Theanine3D
Member
I never trade and have my inventory set to private, yet I get requests from phishing bots on a semi-daily basis.
Just last week I got a request from a completely random Steam user with an anime avatar (something I find to be common with phishers, not sure why). I accepted it out of curiosity, and literally 1 millisecond after I clicked "Accept", I got an instant message from them with an obvious phishing link along with some spiel about wanting one of my items, even though my inventory is private. I reported the account, but someone who isn't as internet-literate would have easily fallen for it.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Can I opt into this service? I'll pay them $4.99
Krappadizzle
Member
Fixed that for you.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Hell, there was a thread in here about someone clicking that link. lol
I'm surprised there are people who aren't aware that there were spambots on Steam. I have my profile + inventory set to private, have nothing in my inventory other than a spare copy of HL and a couple of coupons, and only play Single Player games (selling any cards immediately). Yet, I still had 3 bots try to friend me... It was weird because I have no idea how they would have even found me... Granted it's only 3 in over 8 years or so of using Steam...
ebullientprism
Member
Thank you FUCKING GOD!
I usually get like 3-4 Friend invites EVERY DAY, like fucking clockwork from new accounts. All of them phishers or scammers looking to trade shit. Was getting sick of cleaning up my FRs every damn day. If I didnt clean up every day I would end up with like 10-15 over a few days. Worse I accidentally declined an actual friend's request by mistake cause it was buried in like 11 other requests from these cunts.
Woo-Fu
Banned
You don't need $5 to play a videogame on Steam. You can play all you want with a limited account. Try again.
If you have the time to need the additional features of Steam you have the time to make $5 to pay for them.
I don't really understand the mentality behind the complainers. Those features can't be that important to you if they're not worth $5 so stop acting like this is going to be some monumental hardship. It doesn't wash. You can't have it both ways.
But you just said you don't want those "basic functions".
jim-jam bongs
Member
My only concern about this is the requirement that the total be determined as a USD value, because it disadvantages people in developing countries.
If you don't want to use the things they're disallowing you from using, why is it "fuck them"?
If you don't want to use the things they're disallowing you from using, why is it "fuck them"?
Woo-Fu
Banned
That's right, how dare Valve not make you pay for something you don't want. /smh
Beyond the utter lack of logic in your stance I find it mildly entertaining that people who aren't contributing to the bottom line in the first place think they're making a statement by continuing to not contribute in the face of this policy change.
EatinOlives
Member
Who do you think Valve will care about more? People who are regular customers of Steam (i.e., giving them money constantly) getting bombarded by shitty spambots, or the small minority of people who don't give Valve any money?
Not to be blunt, but they're going to care more about the customers who pay while using their services.
I'm totally fine with this (with the exception of maybe the WebAPI access being restricted). If you haven't put at least $5 usd into Steam (and by the sounds of it, some of you have been using Steam for 6-7-8+ years without putting money in, why should they care about you? You aren't a customer they necessarily want, at least not more than them wanting to get rid of bots.
Yes, some of you have games bought retail that work on Steam, but Steam doesn't make money from those steam keys.
I do wonder if they'll eventually loosen the restrictions to allow retail keys to count towards this though, and would be okay with that too. Fortunately I have well over 4k in the steam ecosystem so I'm in the clear.
Yes, some of you have games bought retail that work on Steam, but Steam doesn't make money from those steam keys.
I do wonder if they'll eventually loosen the restrictions to allow retail keys to count towards this though, and would be okay with that too. Fortunately I have well over 4k in the steam ecosystem so I'm in the clear.
Enigmatic Rainbow
Member
Yup, I'm glad they're doing this too. If it can help prevent less bots spamming for trades or invites, I'm all for it.
skLaFarebear
Member
I highly doubt that every single one of those millions of people that play DOTA have actually spent any money on it or steam in general.
What exactly are you angry about if you haven't used steam in a decade?
edit: Sorry if youre being sarcastic. The outrage posts r confusing me.
I have to ask, did you actually use any of these "basic functions" you're so mad about? Most of the basic functions still work, like playing your game and overlay chat? You can still post on the steam boards, just with a time limit between posts.
Yo, what's that? Because I buy games at retail and other storefronts, and I could easily drift into a year without buying directly from Steam. Last game I bought on Steam was Dec 28th, and I've registered Dying Light and Pillars of Eternity since then, so I'm still active.
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Do purchases from my wallet count? I've got 7 something bucks made from selling cards, if I buy something with that I'm still good right? Need to keep that card treadmill turning.
There are lots of possible reasons for it. Steamworks has such a wide reach that anyone who buys retail PC games will likely need a Steam account, even if they don't buy anything from Steam itself as a storefront. Same with people who want to play F2P games like TF2 and DOTA2, but might not buy products on the store.
That said, fuck spambots!
killer rin
Member
Well, there goes my younger brothers access to steam features. I didn't even know Spam bots on steam were a thing.
Sounds good to me - I was getting a bit sick of the spambots as well. $5 is absolutely nothing so if you somehow haven't spent anything on Steam then just pick up something quick that you've been meaning to play, should be pretty easy to find something to suit you.
If you refuse to pay and have never bought anything on Steam ever well....Valve doesn't owe you shit.
If you refuse to pay and have never bought anything on Steam ever well....Valve doesn't owe you shit.
You have to make at least one purchase a year to buy and sell items on the Steam Market. Even a 20 cents game works.
And yes, purchases with your wallet will count.
Yeah, I was messing around. I still haven't seen any valid reason for the outrage.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Okay, fine, you have a point.
Steam has so many great deals that even if you just used it for DOTA, I find it hard to imagine that one would find it impossible to spend $5 worth.
Totally valid point about Steamworks though. Oh well, grab some DLC on sale I guess.
But that is a meaningless distinction. It'd be like the bookstore being able to magically make the book appear anywhere and I don't have to carry it around with me...you're saying I can only use it in the store. Really? Really really?
Yeah they're holding it but I can use it anywhere.
Memorabilia
Member
Good.
That's actually what they want cause you're more likely to fall for a bad deal
flatearthpandas
Member
No, it'd be like you could go to another bookstore in the same chain and still have access to your books. The fact that you are tied down to a storefront is not a meaningless distinction and the steam store is not analogous to a brick and mortar physical goods storefront where you can take the product anywhere you want after purchase.
Anyway, this is hardly relevant. PM about it if you want, but I'm not super invested here to be honest.
Except I can go to my house or your house or a McDonalds or the beach in offline mode (or hell even online with how easy it is to get wifi at this point.) The only thing tying you down with Steam is access to a computer.
How is that another store in the chain again?
What you were going for is an ownership thing and it has nothing to do with where you can use the thing. It just means eventually you'll have to give it back.
Benzychenz
Member
Hmm, I've never spent a cent on steam, have only used my account for free game promotions and the like haha.
If I ever actually get around to using my account and getting into PC gaming I will spend a lot more than $5 though so no issue here
If I ever actually get around to using my account and getting into PC gaming I will spend a lot more than $5 though so no issue here
AwakenedCloud
Member
I'm honestly surprised that there's any backlash about this on GAF whatsoever. As a service itself, Steam is worth $5. Even if PC gamers aren't used to paying for features, Steam Gold is incredibly reasonable at that price. That said, Steam Silver lets you play games online so upgrading isn't even mandatory.