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What? Reviewers>the consumers?
I don't think so. Sessler is the most know gaming personality because of being on TV for years, and GT is a popular site -- they essentially run the VGAs. Also, IGN got an invite so they must need to go. I just think they don't want to go to the event as they feel like they should have more time to review the system, and they don't want to be in a controlled environment while doing so.
Suddenly Nintendo doesnt look so bad for making journalists wait until the last second. Appears that it's going to be the norm.
Reviews help to inform consumers, which at launch is a pretty big deal.
Reviews help to inform consumers, which at launch is a pretty big deal.
bigboss370
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so, in the past day or two, we found out:
-CoD is 720p on X1, and 1080p on PS4, but both have framerate issues that are being worked on.
-Battlefield 4 is 720p on X1, and 900p on PS4.
-there is something wrong with the X1 beyond simply the resolution difference. (as mentioned by CBOAT)
-some game reviewers are pissed that they have limited access to review some Sony first party games or the PS4 hardware early.
is that about right?
-CoD is 720p on X1, and 1080p on PS4, but both have framerate issues that are being worked on.
-Battlefield 4 is 720p on X1, and 900p on PS4.
-there is something wrong with the X1 beyond simply the resolution difference. (as mentioned by CBOAT)
-some game reviewers are pissed that they have limited access to review some Sony first party games or the PS4 hardware early.
is that about right?
Marcus works for gametrailers so I guess he won't have a lot troubles getting access to an early PS4, he is just supporting sessler
I know one thing: everybody here is talking about PS4 now.
And for what? That some reviewers can't get acces to the console + 2 games until a few days before release?
If, as a journalist, you feel like you didn't get to properly review a game or console, wait with posting a review until you do. In the meantime you could post a hands-on article.
And for what? That some reviewers can't get acces to the console + 2 games until a few days before release?
If, as a journalist, you feel like you didn't get to properly review a game or console, wait with posting a review until you do. In the meantime you could post a hands-on article.
onlyindreams
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guys lets not forget that the last time anyone cared about Marcus Beer was because he threw another entitled fit after Phil Fish didn't give him the time of day to comment on the story he was working on
this prompted phil to quit the industry
will sony do the same and cancel the ps4??!!!!
this prompted phil to quit the industry
will sony do the same and cancel the ps4??!!!!
Holy shit. I had no idea.
So yeah, that's probably what happened. Trip to the Carribean to review AC4?
So this is ALL in response to the Sony review event??...it seems fishy at face value for Sony to act this way...but I think it's going to likely be related to giving them as much time as possible to make sure firmware 1.5 and the PSN is up to snuff before letting the entire gaming press free access to the console for full review...
Any reviews coming out before (like polygon and AC4) would be on dev kits that give no indication of retail OS software...that's just going to be a straight game review...
Muppet of a Man
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Thank you for the summary. Yes, this is accurate.
deputyspade
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He's not on G4 anymore so Sony isn't giving him and the smaller youtube peasants the first class treatment and they are butthurt about it.
Rev3 is nowhere near being in the same league as GameTrailers.
It's more important to the companies to get their machines out to the big guys first.
That's a decent summary.
xinfamousxi
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Thanks, Marcus for the insight. I can understand why you would be upset, However, I have learned from the short time that I have been on this site that if you say something bad about Sony you get backlash. I mean look at all the posts attacking you saying your upset about not getting a free console after you said you had both pre ordered. They are even making excuses for Sony as to why this is okay.
groovygamer
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Well, I wouldn't say that. Both are equally devoid of interesting personalities.
xn0
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Let me get this straight the reason everyone is pissed and why Sessler is threatening to quit the industry is because you can't access the consoles until a few days before the launch. Is this related to the review event cards that came out in the past few days?
Let me guess the consoles were due to arrive to reviewers this weekend, and when the delivery guy knocked on the door reviewers got an invitation to a review event instead of the console and games.
<gif idea> Someone needs to get a gif together of Christmas Vacation when Clark (Sessler) gets a 1 year membership to Jelly of the month club (review invitation) instead of his christmas bonus (PS4) and freaks out </gif idea>
Let me guess the consoles were due to arrive to reviewers this weekend, and when the delivery guy knocked on the door reviewers got an invitation to a review event instead of the console and games.
<gif idea> Someone needs to get a gif together of Christmas Vacation when Clark (Sessler) gets a 1 year membership to Jelly of the month club (review invitation) instead of his christmas bonus (PS4) and freaks out </gif idea>
NotXbox one
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Please understand that it's very hard to separate both at this point
I caught my mistake, but didn't edit on time. Apologies.
No worries it was a terrible joke anyway.
Seems quite simple really:
Sony has press's event for PS4 release where journos review 1sy party titles (knack, killzone, resogun).
Third party titles get reviewed at other times when 3rd parties decide.
Sony could be getting the PS4 network ready in time for just before launch and hence can't be sending games out 2 weeks in advance or firmware update is being released day 1 to the masses so getting out a ps4 to the journos with the firmware could be a hassle and without the firmware to mean an unfair review of the console.
Either way its not ideal. This is what you get for console releases when they're announced and released within a year.
At least it is just first party titles of which there aren't many and at least the online portions of each game can be assessed.
Pros and cons. Overall, its a console launch, some will be pissed but at the end of the day your getting to review games ahead of release as well fairly looking at all aspects of the game. And maybe the consoles at the event have the firmware ready too hence a fairer assessment of the console.
Sony has press's event for PS4 release where journos review 1sy party titles (knack, killzone, resogun).
Third party titles get reviewed at other times when 3rd parties decide.
Sony could be getting the PS4 network ready in time for just before launch and hence can't be sending games out 2 weeks in advance or firmware update is being released day 1 to the masses so getting out a ps4 to the journos with the firmware could be a hassle and without the firmware to mean an unfair review of the console.
Either way its not ideal. This is what you get for console releases when they're announced and released within a year.
At least it is just first party titles of which there aren't many and at least the online portions of each game can be assessed.
Pros and cons. Overall, its a console launch, some will be pissed but at the end of the day your getting to review games ahead of release as well fairly looking at all aspects of the game. And maybe the consoles at the event have the firmware ready too hence a fairer assessment of the console.
You fucked up man ,, all Xbox division did fuck up :
Show us the next step.. lol
onlyindreams
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You fucked up man ,, all Xbox division did fuck up :
Woah!
Holy shit. I had no idea.
So yeah, that's probably what happened. Trip to the Carribean to review AC4?
They actually stopped doing this ridiculously expensive sort of thing when the economy had its big ol' meltdown.
You fucked up man ,, all Xbox division did fuck up :
Post the after picture too
edit: damn beat :lol
I know GT is bigger that's why I referred to them as a whole. I was just saying Sessler is the most know single person, so he could write his own blog by himself and get invited to press events. I really don't think Sessler is complaining about not getting an invite. I think he's complaining about the event. He's complained about this stuff for years and he's prone to be hyperbolic, so I think he just is upset about the event happening at all.
All Sony needs to do is get out there and be transparent with why they are doing this. (Also get back to Adam!) if its because of patch 1.5, that's reasonable and no one would be mad if that's why they need to do it in a closed environment. But don't do what MS is doing and get all dodgy. I would hope with how open Sony has been of late, they would know that.
Bro, you're going to have to show us the confirmation.You fucked up man ,, all Xbox division did fuck up :
Chobel
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You fucked up man ,, all Xbox division did fuck up :
Please don't do it, or at least think carefully before you do it.
BlastProcessing
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Agreed. The way that GiantBomb has shifted away from relying on hot day one reviews seems preeeeeety smart right about now.
Maybe its me being high at the moment, but I really like this post for some reason. Albert came off really humble here. Like this is the kind of communication MS can have with their customers. Good one Al
famousmortimer
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The more that GAF and Reddit and other gaming communities produce their own news, videos, reviews, impressions, etc... the more the gaming press loses its mind.
I feel like there is an outright disdain for GAF, in particular, right now from the press. We get assholes like me who can just say stuff with NDAs. We get OT's with more info about a game than any preview could ever hope to attempt. We get breaking news here first, and then on a site, and if their lucky the site will be linked in a new thread so we will click on their site.
I don't just mean this as a gaf circle jerk. This is also true of reddit. I don't go to gamefaqs but I assume it's true there. I also assume it's true of 4chan. There's probably more places.
In the last several months it feels like the press, in the US especially, have become contrarian to what sites like this think. The PS4 looks good... don't preorder yet! There may be some big surprise! You think that Mass Effect 3 is a piece of shit? GotY!
I'm probably simplifying it a bit but am I alone in feeling this tug of war going on? I feel like each weekend the big podcasts are arguing against whatever the big thing happens on sites like this or reddit or whatever feel. If they agree with us they are useless. If they argue they at least have an opposing viewpoint... but it often is nonsensical.
At the same time, #PS4NoDRM wouldn't have had the reach it did without the press atleast reporting about it. Also... I'm just some jerk on the internet talking about CoD being 720p on the Xbox One yet it's become a larger story because every podcast this weekend is talking about it. So while we may be a human centipede of gaming news... the press it part of the shit eating.
I feel like there is an outright disdain for GAF, in particular, right now from the press. We get assholes like me who can just say stuff with NDAs. We get OT's with more info about a game than any preview could ever hope to attempt. We get breaking news here first, and then on a site, and if their lucky the site will be linked in a new thread so we will click on their site.
I don't just mean this as a gaf circle jerk. This is also true of reddit. I don't go to gamefaqs but I assume it's true there. I also assume it's true of 4chan. There's probably more places.
In the last several months it feels like the press, in the US especially, have become contrarian to what sites like this think. The PS4 looks good... don't preorder yet! There may be some big surprise! You think that Mass Effect 3 is a piece of shit? GotY!
I'm probably simplifying it a bit but am I alone in feeling this tug of war going on? I feel like each weekend the big podcasts are arguing against whatever the big thing happens on sites like this or reddit or whatever feel. If they agree with us they are useless. If they argue they at least have an opposing viewpoint... but it often is nonsensical.
At the same time, #PS4NoDRM wouldn't have had the reach it did without the press atleast reporting about it. Also... I'm just some jerk on the internet talking about CoD being 720p on the Xbox One yet it's become a larger story because every podcast this weekend is talking about it. So while we may be a human centipede of gaming news... the press it part of the shit eating.
ProcrasDANation
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Nailed it lol.
Muppet of a Man
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At this point, it seems quite obvious that many of these games journalist don't quite trust Sony just yet.
I know Sony screwed up last gen with the PS3. But you guys should at least attempt to view Sony's new console and direction with a fresh set of eyes. It really does seem that they have majorly turned things around for the better. Will there be hiccups with the launch of PS4? I am sure of it. But the same can be said for the competitions' consoles, as well.
I know Sony screwed up last gen with the PS3. But you guys should at least attempt to view Sony's new console and direction with a fresh set of eyes. It really does seem that they have majorly turned things around for the better. Will there be hiccups with the launch of PS4? I am sure of it. But the same can be said for the competitions' consoles, as well.
Intheflorsh
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You fucked up man ,, all Xbox division did fuck up :
Albert has to be crying himself to sleep right now.
To be fair...I assume you didn't read this forum back in 2006??? The tune was just ever so slightly different back then...
Not gonna lie...I think the Sony hate circa 2006 was worse than Xbone 2013 hate...seriously lol
Sword Of Doom
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What you listed above is totally understandable though.
NotXbox one
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I'll be honest, I trust gaffer impressions more than any videogame journalism publication. People here usually don't have any agendas and I know they're not in the pockets of publishers. I've seen some really insightful and investigative posting here too.
Looking at the last few months, I definitely agree that GAF has gotten some flak. It's because of the leaks; nearly everything comes from here first.
Yep. It's the best way to go. People like getting to know the personalities and see those personalities actually play the games. Quick Looks and podcasts accomplish this. Reviews, while nice, aren't necessary.
Sessler has complained alot this year. It ranges from 'not knowing enough about the PS4/XB1' to this. He just complains.
Though I understand his current predicament and why he is upset about it.
That could have been anything...Miley Cyrus CD or something. We'll need more evidence than that.
phosphor112
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I demand you change your avatar back to stoopkid!
onlyindreams
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You chose wisely
deputyspade
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You fucked up man ,, all Xbox division did fuck up :
OUCH!
Chobel
Member
What order? it could be anything. And I really hope you didn't cancel your Xbox One order, please be a joke.
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